Not likely, considering how the resident of Citadel were prejudice against, view them as scavenger, a quarian won't get that much respect.
Mass Effect - Quarian Spectre
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 04:43
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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
eh, they'd likely make a hanar spectre first:(Ashrite wrote...
they arnt any quarian specters. They only choose a specter from there race.
They already did...or are you forgetting about Blasto!
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 04:43
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The Quarian race would need to do the following first.
1) Fix their immune system.
They can possibly achieve that if they happen to become mutual allies with the Geth.
They could ask the Salarians for help as well.
2) Join the Council.
Can't ignore Quarian/Council politics.
The Quarians don't much care for other races and the Council only seeks powerful and noble races.
That's going to take a while for both sides to reach agreement.
3) Find a candidate.
That will take time as with anything. As bad arse as Kal'Regaar/Tali are they're not overall Spectre material.
1) Fix their immune system.
They can possibly achieve that if they happen to become mutual allies with the Geth.
They could ask the Salarians for help as well.
2) Join the Council.
Can't ignore Quarian/Council politics.
The Quarians don't much care for other races and the Council only seeks powerful and noble races.
That's going to take a while for both sides to reach agreement.
3) Find a candidate.
That will take time as with anything. As bad arse as Kal'Regaar/Tali are they're not overall Spectre material.
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 05:06
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MassEffect762 wrote...
The Quarian race would need to do the following first.
1) Fix their immune system.
They can possibly achieve that if they happen to become mutual allies with the Geth.
They could ask the Salarians for help as well.
2) Join the Council.
Can't ignore Quarian/Council politics.
The Quarians don't much care for other races and the Council only seeks powerful and noble races.
That's going to take a while for both sides to reach agreement.
3) Find a candidate.
That will take time as with anything. As bad arse as Kal'Regaar/Tali are they're not overall Spectre material.
Your right when a simple cough can take out a Quarian that doesn't make for a durable agent. I would think the Quarians solving their weak immune systems would be a top priority, however they're too busy in maintaining their flotilla and seeking revenge against the Geth.
I can understand the Quarians dislike for other races when all the other races automatically assume Quarians are nothing more than Vagrants and thieves. Also, the council kicked out the Quarians for their creation of the Geth.
From what the game has shown me the Quarians are horrible combatants, every operation they undertake ends badly for them and they can't even repel a Geth attack on their own ships or even recapture a ship once the Geth assumed contol.
Bottom line Quarians may be techincal geniuses but they make lousy soldiers.
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 05:24
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I somehow see a Quarian Spectre to be sort of funny I could see it now.
"I'm a Spectre of the Council and I order you to stop or I'll *Gets shot in the arm* Oh Gods! My suit is ripped I'm going to die of infection!!!"
"I'm a Spectre of the Council and I order you to stop or I'll *Gets shot in the arm* Oh Gods! My suit is ripped I'm going to die of infection!!!"
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 07:11
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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
eh, they'd likely make a hanar spectre first:(Ashrite wrote...
they arnt any quarian specters. They only choose a specter from there race.
the hanar use the drells as there Wepons as was explain in me2 from thain they are sold as children to the hanar as a Assasin so if the hanar are on the council im sure they will use the drell as a spectra. seen they live together.
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 07:22
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Kal'Reegar sucks i had to restart that Recruite Tali mission vs the Geth colisus cause that idote got him self kill.......LuxDragon wrote...
Or the victims in a "OMG its so dangerous that everybody died, good luck!" plot. You know, the kind created to show that the situation is so dangerous that you might die because everyone else died?
Which sucks 'cause Kal'Reegar is awesome.
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 07:27
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Not gonna happen anytime soon.
#35
Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 08:07
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Quarian Spectre does not make much sense.
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 08:18
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There are no doubt many quarians skilled enough to become a spectre but sadly politics are against quarians in this case. They are not well liked by other spiecies, have too little political, military and economical power and are not even allowed a embassy on the Citadel.
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Posté 19 septembre 2010 - 08:30
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lovgreno wrote...
There are no doubt many quarians skilled enough to become a spectre but sadly politics are against quarians in this case. They are not well liked by other spiecies, have too little political, military and economical power and are not even allowed a embassy on the Citadel.
One of the reservations the Council had about Shepard was a Shepard bias toward humans. Given that an inherent part of Quarian culture is for each member to always act in the best interest of the fleet I would suspect the Council would not consider a Quarian for a Spectre position due to an inability to be objective.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 01:15
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pf17456 wrote...
lovgreno wrote...
There are no doubt many quarians skilled enough to become a spectre but sadly politics are against quarians in this case. They are not well liked by other spiecies, have too little political, military and economical power and are not even allowed a embassy on the Citadel.
One of the reservations the Council had about Shepard was a Shepard bias toward humans. Given that an inherent part of Quarian culture is for each member to always act in the best interest of the fleet I would suspect the Council would not consider a Quarian for a Spectre position due to an inability to be objective.
While I agree with you, I think it's impossible for them to be truly objective in that way. Paragon players probably suit more with how the Council would want it because you're at least co-operating with other species... just probably not in the way or with whom the Council would like as first preference.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 01:17
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Not all, but most and most is all it takes.GodWood wrote...
Not all batarians are terrorists.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 01:22
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Actually, probably a lot less than other races. The Quarians can't afford the population, and haven't gone the way of the Krogan, not having the same 'must fight' mentality.
They are a desperate people going through culture shock when on pilgrimage for the first time. Tali doesn't even deny that they often steal, instead she tries to justify it. Based on Lia'Vael's experience on the Citadel the quarian tendency to steal probably is often a result of desperate circumstances. I'm a jaded pessimist though, so I suspect that quarians probably educate young quarians (about to go on pilgrimage) on how to steal properly, much as certain gypsy families will do.
Edit: The implication being that some quarians probably steal and cheat because it is convenient, not because they actually need to. After all, you and I are law abiding people but if we had been trained to be master shop-lifters do you suspect we'd never use those skills if we wanted something badly enough but couldn't afford it? Or if we felt that what we were stealing was too cheap and insignificant to matter? I'd like to think I wouldn't, maybe you wouldn't, but I suspect if it was that easy sooner or later I'd give in to temptation.
In addition to that the Migrant Fleet often intimidates star systems into giving them resources. What they'll do is threaten to enter the system, clogging up the mass relays for days or weeks and strip minning resources. Thus the systems are encouraged instead to avoid this by just giving the quarians some supplies up front, for free.
The above reasons are why the quarians are resented so much.
Until the attack on Eden Prime I doubt anyone in recent memory, other than maybe some asari, cared at all about the Morning War. They didn't hate quarians for creating the geth since the geth hadn't been on anyones mind in centuries. What they hated them for was stealing their wallets and merchandise, wrecking their economies, and coericing them (non quarians) into giving them free aid under threat of 'invasion'.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 01:50
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Most, as in over half the Batarian population are terrorists? From where did you dig up that little gem?bobobo878 wrote...
Not all, but most and most is all it takes.GodWood wrote...
Not all batarians are terrorists.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 01:58
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These things just come to me.Malanek999 wrote...
Most, as in over half the Batarian population are terrorists? From where did you dig up that little gem?bobobo878 wrote...
Not all, but most and most is all it takes.GodWood wrote...
Not all batarians are terrorists.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:11
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Aside from making me laugh, Quarian Spectres would be useless since their commandos can die from scratches.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:13
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Quarians suck
They should die in a genocide for the good of the universe
They should die in a genocide for the good of the universe
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:16
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Sajuro wrote...
Aside from making me laugh, Quarian Spectres would be useless since their commandos can die from scratches.
That's always been the -main- inconsistancy in the series...
"Quarrians are awesome mechanics"
Hey mister Quarrian, have you got an awesome power armor for me????
"Nope... I'm wearing a fragile sealed suit"
You'd think if you were a fragile species... with awesome tech skills, you'd make yourself a rocking powered armor suit ...
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:17
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Drell Spectre....With the Hanar's case they would make a drell a spectre.FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
eh, they'd likely make a hanar spectre first:(Ashrite wrote...
they arnt any quarian specters. They only choose a specter from there race.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:19
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Shandepared wrote...
FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
but the quarians aren't terrorists like the batarians.
No, but they are often PERCIEVED AS thieves, swindlers, and an over all burden on anyone near them.
Fixed that for you.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:22
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totally... would be fun.dreman9999 wrote...
Drell Spectre....With the Hanar's case they would make a drell a spectre.FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
eh, they'd likely make a hanar spectre first:(Ashrite wrote...
they arnt any quarian specters. They only choose a specter from there race.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:35
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Optimystic_X wrote...
Shandepared wrote...
FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
but the quarians aren't terrorists like the batarians.
No, but they are often thieves, swindlers, and an over all burden on anyone near them.
That's a textbook Informed Flaw. Every Quarian we've seen in-game has been an honorable, hopelessly-wronged innocent.
I dunno if it's an informed flaw so much as a social prejudice. People -think- they're worthless gypsies who go around stealing things. It's a negative stereotype. Of course, there probably are quarians who break the law, both willfully and accidentally, but the fact that they have a reputation for being that way doesn't mean they actually are.
Mox Ruuga wrote...
A volus or a hanar would make a finer Spectre.
We can see how "effective" the quarians are as soldiers in ME2... They get splattered, each and every time. Hell, they couldn't dislodge a platoon strenght geth unit from the midst of their power base, and their best marines were repulsed with heavy casualties.
They are pathetic.
Well, let's be fair - they suck vs. Geth because their strengths (tech/hacking) are completely eclipsed, and they can't stand up in a fire-fight. But their fleet is capable of some deadly bombardment, and they can seriously mess up the hardware and computers of anyone who is NOT Geth, as evidenced by Tali's threat to hack into the volus' olfactory receptors.
They're just victim to a very bad matchup.
I'd like to point out that the geth brought a much larger force to Haestrom than the Quarians did, with a lot more heavy artillery. The quarians were hopelessly outmatched, and Kal'Reegar -still- managed to hold out and keep Tali alive until Shep got there.
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Posté 20 septembre 2010 - 02:38
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Quarians made the Geth, the other races have the right to look down upon them.Heavensrun wrote...
Shandepared wrote...
FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
but the quarians aren't terrorists like the batarians.
No, but they are often PERCIEVED AS thieves, swindlers, and an over all burden on anyone near them.
Fixed that for you.
