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[termokanden]

Oh right. Been ages since I tried it on PC

[demersel]

numotsbane wrote...

The other wierd thing is that you can look around on xbox when in tactical pause. you cannot do that on PC. it makes me sad.

What???!!! since when??? I do this all the time, and now you're telling me I cannot do that?  Why can't i do that?

[sinosleep]

Korjyan wrote...

I plan to go PC as soon as I have one again (only having a laptop right now). I can play my classes without problems on Xbox but as I'm a native PC player I miss the mouse aiming obviously. I was wondering though if you can't change the controls in the PC version. WASD for example might be fine for most players, I absolutely hate it and play QWES since forever in any shooter and also like to put a lot of commands on my mouse keys. I hope you can do that in ME2 because default keys usually never work for me.

Yes, you can rebind keys. For instance I've changed shift and capslock to quick slot keys so that in combination with the two thumb buttons on my muse and the clickable mouse wheel I have easy access to 5 abilities without having to move my hands from their default lay on the keyboard. Helps with no pause gameplay immensely.

[demersel]

I just got used to using number keys 1 to 6. i have this habit ever since i started to play CS beta 0.7. I am perhaps the only person in the wolrd who uses F1 - F8 keys extensivly.

[khevan]

I use TAB, Caps lock, "T", "G", and "V" for keyboard shortcuts, plus I have a thumb button on my mouse. I do have a clickable scroll wheel, but it's wonky, doesn't always work.



That gives me 6 shortcuts with very little finger movement on the keyboard. I also use hotkeys 1 and 2.



Finally, I use "F" for my sprint/activate/general action key and space for my melee. It works better for me.

[demersel]

And that's why we're PC. It's customisible! (yet)

[RGFrog]

I'll have to give the key bindings another run. I used to have them all changed up, but patch 1.01 caused my game to lock up with key binds for some reason. Smooth as butter with default keys, so I've trained myself to use the number row for powers.

Last time I used a trackball for FPS's was the original Quake. Killed my thumb, too.

[Narosian]

 if it makes you feel better, I never had any problems with PC games, then started to play some xbox 360 games had problems aiming.  I did eventually get used to it though.

[OniGanon]

On the subject of trying to play without pausing, I've been trying that out for a while. Even ignoring the way my in-game reaction speed goes down the toilet, there's no decent way of switching weapons and a mere 8 hotkeys is pathetic considering I need at least 5 for my own abilities, and even that's only if I never want to switch ammo powers in combat, which I do.



Hotkeyed weapons has been the standard since, what, 1992 with Wolf 3D?

[sinosleep]

How many different weapons are you using? I don't normally use more than 2 different weapons so if they aren't one wheel scroll away I just use the last weapon shortcut. I could see it being a pain if you switch weapons more often though.

[OniGanon]

3 at least, but all 5 (inv HW) is not unusual.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Played the PC version of both games first.



If you play offensive powers-dependent classes, you're going to love the mass key mapping system. Beats the power wheel and single key mapping from the console version..

[Mr_Raider]

me2 on Xbox doesn't look bad actually. I really pity the DAO console players. They really got the shaft.

[jolly_rog]

Try changing the mouse sensitivity in Window's control panel.

[termokanden]

Mr_Raider wrote...

me2 on Xbox doesn't look bad actually. I really pity the DAO console players. They really got the shaft.

Agreed. ME2 looks and works just fine on the xbox, but from what I can tell DAO even crashed on the xbox and takes much longer to get the newest patches as well. Can't use player-made mods either, which means that a number of issues will remain unfixed (because the devs sure don't seem to be fixing them).

I'm quite happy playing ME2 on the xbox, but I'm glad I got the PC version of DAO.

[OniGanon]

Games with RTS-like controls as in DAO just don't work with a gamepad anyway.

[termokanden]

Yeah that's another problem. I use a lot of keybindings and micromanage just about everything. Can't imagine doing all that without a mouse and keyboard, but I admit I haven't tried.

Edit: I'm talking about Dragon Age here

Modifié par termokanden, 28 septembre 2010 - 11:40 .

[Zan Mura]

Q - Weapon quickswap.
E - Melee
F - Sprint/use/cover
Space - Tactical menu
Tab - Map

And so on. I typically use 1-4 for personal abilities, 5-8 for companion abilities, and leave Unity off the quick bar as I so seldom use it anyway.

Other than that, the only reason to use the tactical menu for pausing, is to send orders to the group or to change weapons. And the only game mode demanding enough to require ordering your group, is insanity.

As someone else said, you only need two weapons most of the time anyway. Typically it's AR / Pistol or AR / Rifle. Or in the case of my main adept, SMG / Pistol. Where I rarely need to swap to a third weapon or HW. But I do agree that ME2 could've used a similar key system to ME1 where you could actually bind the weapon keys to something. I used to have mouse button 4-5 on pistol and rifle, with scroll wheel up / down on shotty / AR.

But yeah, I've tried since N64 and Golden Eye / Metroid to get used to FPS controls with a console, but I just can't. It's incredibly clunky compared to PC. Similarly, regardless of how I tried, a beat-em-up is just too damn clumsy with a keyboard. Need a pad for that.

Modifié par Zan Mura, 28 septembre 2010 - 11:40 .

[narthwastaken]

RGFrog wrote...

Use a better mouse. One with adjustable dpi. That takes care of the sensitivity issue. Ball based mice are sooooo 1988.

To the point.

I'm using a mouse which is probably under £20/euros/dollars now. Logitech thingy with mouse sensitivity adjustment on the fly. Takes a little getting used to, and I mean a little but it's also considerably more ergonomic than a normal mouse. Goes up to insanely high DPi, or down if you go that way. Until it feels like your shifting lumps of lead round the screen.

If you decide to stick with PC gaming it's a GREAT investment.

If you have a nice rig, crank it up, the game looks fantastic (glitches aside) run with everything maxed. Though the bloom is a bit excessive. Once you get used to ignoring that Miranda literally glows, it's fantastic anyway.