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[Risax]

So from the pieces of info the devs have been feeding us, and the Q&A with David Gaider at PAX you might have figured out some news about Hawkes parents.

What I know so far is that Hawkes father was an apostate,who taught Bethany (and Hawke when (s)he's a mage) magic. I don't know if Hawkes father has left the family before the start of the game, or that something tragic happend, can people who've played the demo tell some more about this?

Now for Mother Hawke.
Appearently her maiden name is Ammel,or was it Amell? But anyway, she is a noble of some sort and her family owns estates in Kirkwall.

But now I have some questions.
Father Hawke was an apostate. So how did the two of them meet? Did mother Hawke got lost in the Wilds? So father Hawke saved her, and they lived happily ever after? Or did Mother Hawke saw Father Hawke get attacked by some strange men (Templars) and got him to safety? Or did Father Hawke simply hid his powers from Mother Hawke untill he simply had to tell?

Now I have some other questions.
Did Father Hawke marry Mother Hawke? I mean she took his name,but marrying an apostate? Wouldn't that bring shame to the Amell name? I mean she still seems to think she is in good favour with her family in Kirkwall, so maybe she kept it hidden from them.

And how would Father Hawke and Bethany stay away from the Templars? Would they be constantly moving from town to town? Or would Father Hawke just leave from time to time, to lead the Templars away. I mean Bethanys powers wouldn't awaken until she was what ten-eleven years old?

Anyway please speculate and awnser my questions.

Also if someone happens to know the name of Hawkes mother and father please tell. It's pretty anoying to type Father Hawke and Mother Hawke all the time...

Modifié par Risax, 05 octobre 2010 - 06:21 .

[The Big Nothing]

Cletus and Shauniqua Hawke.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 19 septembre 2010 - 02:26 .

[Dark_Raven_NL]

can't you just wait for the game comes out.

maybe a lot of questions are awnsert in the game it self.

just knowing now wil take a way the fun of the game.



you got to agree with me the less you know about the game the more fun it is to play.

so first play ask questions later.

[Risax]

Dark_Raven_NL wrote...

can't you just wait for the game comes out.
maybe a lot of questions are awnsert in the game it self.
just knowing now wil take a way the fun of the game.

you got to agree with me the less you know about the game the more fun it is to play.
so first play ask questions later.

I will put myself in an information black-out a month or so before the game is released. Because thats usually when they give the most information (names of the party members and stuff) now I'm just speculating,and begging the devs for awnsers.

Modifié par Risax, 19 septembre 2010 - 02:45 .

[Risax]

Also did Hawkes family live in Lothering? Or did they live in a village closer to Ostagar and later fled to Lothering?

[MKDAWUSS]

Hawke's father is Duncan. The resemblance is obvious.

[Risax]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Hawke's father is Duncan. The resemblance is obvious.

I don't know if you're joking or not but, Hawkes father was an apostate,a mage. And Duncan is a Warrior or Rogue.

[Risax]

This might be a dumb question, but is your mother a party member as wel? Because if she isn't,what will her role be in the story? I mean she takes you to Kirkwall for her familys estates, but what will she do after that?

[Pritos]

Now that you guys post this informations together, I'm seeing that Hawke doesn't have any kind of carachiterestic pertinent to what we are told he is to become, a "champion", a "ruler".I mean, his mother belongs to a noble house from Kirkwall that run away to Ferelden for an unknow reason, his father is somewhat of a criminal(Apostates are like criminals in Thedas) who apparently abandoned them, His brother and sister also don't seem to have any kind of "strong" characteristic.



So, this leads me to believe that some kind of really stron event will happen with him and his family that will change him to someone that becomes one of the most important person in the world... And for that will have to be a really BIG event.

[Riona45]

Pritos wrote...

Now that you guys post this informations together, I'm seeing that Hawke doesn't have any kind of carachiterestic pertinent to what we are told he is to become, a "champion", a "ruler".I mean, his mother belongs to a noble house from Kirkwall that run away to Ferelden for an unknow reason, his father is somewhat of a criminal(Apostates are like criminals in Thedas) who apparently abandoned them, His brother and sister also don't seem to have any kind of "strong" characteristic.

Errr, how can you be sure about any of this, when we know almost nothing about any of these characters yet?

[Tissa]

Just a quetion...isn't Amell the last name of the Magi Origin in DAO?

Because if it is, wouldn't this make Mother Hawke somehow related to the a Mage Warden?

[Riona45]

Tissa wrote...

Just a quetion...isn't Amell the last name of the Magi Origin in DAO?

Why yes, it is.

Because if it is, wouldn't this make Mother Hawke somehow related to the a Mage Warden?

Maybe, maybe not, but I'm thinking this bit would never have been mentioned if it was simply a coincidence and of no importance whatsoever.

[Tissa]

Riona45 wrote...

Tissa wrote...

Just a quetion...isn't Amell the last name of the Magi Origin in DAO?

Why yes, it is.

Because if it is, wouldn't this make Mother Hawke somehow related to the a Mage Warden?

Maybe, maybe not, but I'm thinking this bit would never have been mentioned if it was simply a coincidence and of no importance whatsoever.

Hmmm, interesting. . .
Once I was wandering about my mage warden's family. The noble and elf origin you have at least an idea about it, but in the magi one you know nothing about your family. I remember once Morrigan asked me about my mother and I had no idea of what to say!
It would be funny if Mother Hawk was related to the Hero of Ferelden and to the guy/girl who is suposed to be the most important person in the game.

[Archereon]

Riona45 wrote...

Tissa wrote...

Just a quetion...isn't Amell the last name of the Magi Origin in DAO?

Why yes, it is.

Because if it is, wouldn't this make Mother Hawke somehow related to the a Mage Warden?

Maybe, maybe not, but I'm thinking this bit would never have been mentioned if it was simply a coincidence and of no importance whatsoever.

 I don't get how everyone assumes ALL last names, hell, all names in any fictional work are unique.

[zero.squall]

Hah, I like this, although it will probably not be important to Hawke's story.

I mean if you played any other origin than mage there's no connection to the Warden/hero of Fereldan.

Still it would be nice if it was mentioned in a dialoge.



I wonder why Warden didn't stop by to say hallo to his relatives in Lothering

[Xanduin123]

Archereon wrote...

 I don't get how everyone assumes ALL last names, hell, all names in any fictional work are unique.

because in RPGs like this thats usually how it is, i dont think ive ever seen 2 characters in a bioware rpg (and ive played almost all) that have the same last name and arent related

plus, as was already said, why make a deal of announcing her last name AND making it the same as the mage origins AND have the father and daughter be mages if there was no connection? i realize the mother isnt a mage, but it can still be in her family, maybe mage warden is a distant cousin, or nephew, or brother even, who knows

its always a possibility that there is no relation, but that would be very odd, unless they completely forgot they already used Amell for an origin

[Archereon]

Xanduin123 wrote...

Archereon wrote...

 I don't get how everyone assumes ALL last names, hell, all names in any fictional work are unique.

because in RPGs like this thats usually how it is, i dont think ive ever seen 2 characters in a bioware rpg (and ive played almost all) that have the same last name and arent related

plus, as was already said, why make a deal of announcing her last name AND making it the same as the mage origins AND have the father and daughter be mages if there was no connection? i realize the mother isnt a mage, but it can still be in her family, maybe mage warden is a distant cousin, or nephew, or brother even, who knows

its always a possibility that there is no relation, but that would be very odd, unless they completely forgot they already used Amell for an origin

Or maybe Bioware is going to lampshade the fact that sharing a surname with someone doesn't necessarily make them related to you...or even have anything in common with you besides a name.

[Xanduin123]

Archereon wrote...

Xanduin123 wrote...

Archereon wrote...

 I don't get how everyone assumes ALL last names, hell, all names in any fictional work are unique.

because in RPGs like this thats usually how it is, i dont think ive ever seen 2 characters in a bioware rpg (and ive played almost all) that have the same last name and arent related

plus, as was already said, why make a deal of announcing her last name AND making it the same as the mage origins AND have the father and daughter be mages if there was no connection? i realize the mother isnt a mage, but it can still be in her family, maybe mage warden is a distant cousin, or nephew, or brother even, who knows

its always a possibility that there is no relation, but that would be very odd, unless they completely forgot they already used Amell for an origin

Or maybe Bioware is going to lampshade the fact that sharing a surname with someone doesn't necessarily make them related to you...or even have anything in common with you besides a name.

like i said, its a possibility, but its unlikely given biowares history, and that they havent shut down the rumor yet

[Riona45]

Archereon wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Tissa wrote...

Just a quetion...isn't Amell the last name of the Magi Origin in DAO?

Why yes, it is.

Because if it is, wouldn't this make Mother Hawke somehow related to the a Mage Warden?

Maybe, maybe not, but I'm thinking this bit would never have been mentioned if it was simply a coincidence and of no importance whatsoever.

 I don't get how everyone assumes ALL last names, hell, all names in any fictional work are unique.

LOL!  I don't know how you got that out of my post, I thought I was a little bit more equivocal than that.

[ErichHartmann]

Obviously we have no idea how common this last name is so Bioware is either going to tell us there is a relation or leave it to our imagination by saying nothing.

[Risax]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Obviously we have no idea how common this last name is so Bioware is either going to tell us there is a relation or leave it to our imagination by saying nothing.

Probably the latter...

[Risax]

What no thoughts on any of my questions? And here I was thinking I had some good ones....

[Risax]

Though Hawkes Father is not in the game (as far as we know) do you think you might hear some party banter between Bethany and Carver that describes him? As well as dialogue between Hawke and his mother and Hawke and Bethany?

[Risax]

....shameless bump...

[SirOccam]

Risax wrote...

What I know so far is that Hawkes father was an apostate,who taught Bethany (and Hawke when (s)he's a mage) magic. I don't know if Hawkes father has left the family before the start of the game, or that something tragic happend, can people who've played the demo tell some more about this?

The only mention of Hawke's father comes from his mother, who takes a moment and is sort of lamenting the loss of their home in Lothering. She says something to the effect of "it's all gone...everything your father and I built."

Now I have some other questions.
Did Father Hawke marry Mother Hawke? I mean she took his name,but marrying an apostate? Wouldn't that bring shame to the Amell name? I mean she still seems to think she is in good favour with her family in Kirkwall, so maybe she kept it hidden from them.

Maybe that's why she's eking out a hardscrabble life in a poor village in a different country instead of luxuriating on the family's estates.

I haven't seen anything to suggest anything about how her family feels about her, aside from suggesting they go there after the destruction of their home. They are in some fairly desperate circumstances, though, so perhaps she thinks it's worth a shot, or that the family will overlook her past "wrongs" and take pity on her. Who knows, maybe they actually won't. Most of us are assuming the Amell estates will be our base of operations, but maybe they won't even open the gate for us.

All she says is "we still have family there, and estates." Nothing about being greeted with open arms.

Also if someone happens to know the name of Hawkes mother and father please tell. It's pretty anoying to type Father Hawke and Mother Hawke all the time...

I wish I knew. We need some good nicknames, stat.

Modifié par SirOccam, 21 septembre 2010 - 09:33 .