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[omgodzilla]

I'd love to have renegade options involving killing innocent people. I really don't see why people would be against it. It is OPTIONAL after all. Personally, I'd love to have the option of making my Shepard into a ruthless murderer.

[Greed1914]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

Being Renegade hopefully doesn't mean that you loose your mind and become dangerously chaotic. Your basically letting a serial killer that feeds off of weak people's minds and murders them --- on to your ship.

That isn't being a Renegade, that is being a complete idiot.

Yeah, as intriguing as it was to let a succubus be on my team, I figured there was a chance that she could prey on the crew and run away.  Considering the fact that she still offers sex to Shepherd and it still kills him make me think she isn't a good choice.

[Melancholic]

To all those saying they don't want this because they play Paragon: do the Paragon thing and consider the needs of others. I assume most play these games at least twice, and would it really hurt to have more choices?

[omgodzilla]

Melancholic wrote...

To all those saying they don't want this because they play Paragon: do the Paragon thing and consider the needs of others. I assume most play these games at least twice, and would it really hurt to have more choices?

This

[hamtyl07]

my thing on killing innocents it would really get my attention if you could GTA on them just go on a spree of sorts that would make it fun but anything else im not to sure on

[mopotter]

With this game series, I don't see Shepard as an evil jackass. Renegade just gets the job of saving the universe done in a different way. Maybe their next game will let the evil jackass come out to play, I'd hope they also include a saintly or not so saintly do gooder and a middle choice for those of us who prefer to make independent choices.



This is the only killing of innocents I'd want: Batarians have taken over alliance Javelin MK II missiles and are preparing an attack on the nearby human colony (town) or factory. Wipe out the batarian mercenaries. The make a renegade choice to allow the missiles to destroy the colony or paragorn choice to allow the missiles to destroy the spaceport.

[Rockworm503]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Even Saren wouldn't be dumb enough to recruit Morinth. Pure Renegade in this game takes the cake.

LOL Saren was a human hater who went out of his way to kill them.
He would probably recruit Morinth just to have her do her thing on humans..
It wasn't Reaper indoctronation that turned Saren evil.

[Rockworm503]

omgodzilla wrote...

I'd love to have renegade options involving killing innocent people. I really don't see why people would be against it. It is OPTIONAL after all. Personally, I'd love to have the option of making my Shepard into a ruthless murderer.

I agree.
We should have that option in all games that give us choices... otherwise we're not really in full control.
Sure paragon vs renegade is cool and all but some of us would love the ultimate evil choice... It is after all a game first and foremost and games should be fun first of all and IMHO being truly evil is just fun.
In the GTA series I spend more time killing people then I do on the actual missions.
In fallout 3 I blew up a city because I could

[Mr. Gogeta34]

I wonder how Morinth would do against indoctrination...

[Moiaussi]

So... what is Morinth's loyalty power again? Oh, wait... Dominate.... So much for the theory that biotics don't include mind control.



Shepard may or may not be strong enough to resist, but what if she decides she is bored chasing him and turns on another crew member? Is everyone on the Normandy immune to her? On what basis can you be sure?

[Moiaussi]

Shandepared wrote...

If Morinth kills somebody on the Normandy she gets blown out an air lock. She's not stupid.

She should be expecting the same if she kills Shepard, but if Shepard gives her the chance, she does so nonetheless.

[Purge the heathens]

Well, she probably planned to flee with the shuttle or something, but then again, EDI sees all, not to mention that everyone would at least be mildly confused about the sudden change in "Samara". The second she kills someone, there'll be alarms ringing through the whole ship.

Wasn't she addicted to killing?

Modifié par Purge the heathens, 29 septembre 2010 - 11:36 .

[Moiaussi]

Purge the heathens wrote...

Well, she probably planned to flee with the shuttle or something, but then again, EDI sees all, not to mention that everyone would at least be mildly confused about the sudden change in "Samara". The second she kills someone, there'll be alarms ringing through the whole ship.

Wasn't she addicted to killing?

The point is that all that applies no matter who she kills, shepard or no. She could just as easily have a getaway plan if she kills anyone. Whether she would get away is academic.

[Moiaussi]

Shandepared wrote...

Maybe she honestly thought he would live.

"What you've experienced would have destroyed a lesser mind."

Plausable, but it is also plausable that she believes the same of all her victims, and just feels no remorse for the 'lesser minds.' We do know that she does try mind control on Shepard during Samara's loyalty mission.

[Dean_the_Young]

We also know she fails. Certainly no one can deny Shepard is unique. (And certainly I can't believe that Mordin can't come up with some neural overload capacitor upgrade!)





Morinth could have been taken in so many directions, it's shameful how little was done with her. She could be such an interesting character without ever making her sympathetic.

[Therion942]

This ain't Fallout, kids. You're here trying to protect these people at any cost, not just go around ****ing their day up because you're a mindless ******.

[AntiChri5]

Shepard cannot be evil.

[omgodzilla]

I still don't see why people are so against this option. If you don't wanna kill innocent people then don't do it, pick the paragon or neutral option. how hard is that?

[Lord Jaric]

Killing civilians doesn't fly to well in modern times anymore.

[Lord_Caledore]

I play a primarily Renegade character, but I don't want to go around killing innocents. That's not what I see Renegade as. It's not about random violence, it's about being willing to sacrifice lives for the greater good. The choice at the end of Bring Down the Sky is a perfect example. The Renegade option isn't because Shep WANTS the civilians to die, but (s)he believes that they have to be sacrificed to take out a dangerous criminal and thus protect many more lives.

As a Renegade player, I'd hate it to be turned into just a murdering psychopath.

Modifié par Lord_Caledore, 30 septembre 2010 - 03:45 .

[Moiaussi]

omgodzilla wrote...

I still don't see why people are so against this option. If you don't wanna kill innocent people then don't do it, pick the paragon or neutral option. how hard is that?

Because there is a difference between taking a cold, hard line approach and being psychotic. What you want is something beyond being merely renegade.

[AntiChri5]

Its a fun little option for some games, but just doesnt fit in most.

It reduces a strong character to a pathetic joke.

Oh he can, he absolutely can.

I guess that depends on your definition of evil.