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Shade of Wolf

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Out of all the Games and DLCs what are the strongest monsters (how they appear in the codex and ''Most powerful slain''). Does difficulty have any effect on how it is recorded and do you need to land the last hit?

Modifié par Shade of Wolf, 27 mars 2011 - 08:13 .


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FellowerOfOdin

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In Origins, it's Gaxkang, the boss from a subquest - and yes, this means that he's stronger than the Archdemon. And granted, he truly is.

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I don't believe Gaxkang will override the Archdemon kill as the most powerful slain. And I have no clue why people think he's harder than the Archdemon, not saying the archdemon is hard though.

Anyway I think Harvester is the most powerful. He's without a doubt the hardest fight.

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I haven't even fought him yetm but yeah, Harvester is Numero Uno. I'm looking forward to getting my butt handed to me once I play that DLC. /rofl



DA:O I'd say Gaxkang is the most overpowered, and Archdemon is just annoying. Both are "endurance" fights. Just don't waste mana/stamina hurting Gaxkang until he can't lifetap anymore. Not sure if Manadrain, Templar, and/or Electricity runes help, but once he stops tapping he's gimp. Glorified Reaver with AoE Lifetap lol. It took me three reloads to beat him on Normal. Yeah, yeah, he's way harder in Hard/Nightmare I'm sure, but I'll still beat him down like the overpowered llama he is. =P

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The Harvester is surely the hardest fight because of the orange skeletons. But I think the strongest creature on its own is the Queen of the Blackmarsh.

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Kernel Cinders wrote...

DA:O I'd say Gaxkang is the most overpowered, and Archdemon is just annoying. Both are "endurance" fights. Just don't waste mana/stamina hurting Gaxkang until he can't lifetap anymore. Not sure if Manadrain, Templar, and/or Electricity runes help, but once he stops tapping he's gimp. Glorified Reaver with AoE Lifetap lol. It took me three reloads to beat him on Normal. Yeah, yeah, he's way harder in Hard/Nightmare I'm sure, but I'll still beat him down like the overpowered llama he is. =P


Orrr You could just use Mana Clash.

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Kernel Cinders

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That is funny.



I've never been a fan of Spirit/Creation Spells. I pretty much stick to Primal and Entropy lines and pick up Spell Wisp, Arcane Mastery, and Mind Blast. I'm more of a DD/CC Mage I guess. /shrug

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Crippledcarny

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Yeah spirit has no shortage of worthless spells, (not as much as creation does though) and taking 3 pointless spells for Mana Clash is always a hard pill to swallow. But I always do.

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The single hardest enemy was the high dragon on top of the mountain near the village of Haven. It was easily 3 timer harder than the archdemon. Even in Awakenings, neither the Architect nor the Mother came close to being as difficult as the high dragon was. Flemeth was no pushover either, but even she wasn't as tough. My advice is to fight the high dragon close to the end of the game when you have the best possible weapons and armor, and fight it on an empty stomach since you'll be drinking healing potions every few seconds!

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Actually, Archdemon replaces Gaxkang once you kill him.



Archdemon is the most powerful, followed by Gaxkang.

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Gaxkang was a huge disappointment for me. I loved the reference to BG2, but this was waaay too easy.



As for the most powerful enemy in the game, there is no doubt whatsoever, it's the Harvester. Don't care what the game says, that's how it is :)

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Yeah, Gaxkang couldn't hold a candle to Kangaxx. That might be a good thing though...

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I usually beat him easily but Gaxkang can be tough for a party with little spell resistance or ability to dispel magic. My warrior archer, Leli, Morrigan (no mana clash) and Shale got wiped three times. Misdirection, horror, cold spells, revenant...the end. That was the first time in a long time I've struggled against any boss (non-Harvester category).

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Shade of Wolf wrote...
Does difficulty have any effect on how it is recorded and do you need to land the last hit?

It's the killing blow that determines whether or not you've personally slain an enemy in you Heroic Accomplishments.  Also, something to keep in mind... whoever gets the final blow receives a little more XP than the rest of the party so the more final blows you can land the better. 

Sir Pounce-a-lot wrote...
The single hardest enemy was the high dragon on top of the mountain near the village of Haven.

That has been touted as the most difficult battle across multiple games and a true tactical challenge.  It's my favorite fight in the game because I really feel like I've accomplished something once it's dead and I'm not!  :lol:

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Tigress M wrote...

Shade of Wolf wrote...
Does difficulty have any effect on how it is recorded and do you need to land the last hit?

It's the killing blow that determines whether or not you've personally slain an enemy in you Heroic Accomplishments.  Also, something to keep in mind... whoever gets the final blow receives a little more XP than the rest of the party so the more final blows you can land the better. 

Sir Pounce-a-lot wrote...
The single hardest enemy was the high dragon on top of the mountain near the village of Haven.

That has been touted as the most difficult battle across multiple games and a true tactical challenge.  It's my favorite fight in the game because I really feel like I've accomplished something once it's dead and I'm not!  :lol:


Very true; I totally agree ^^ The dragon was a fantastic fight (and the loot was great too!) that had no equal in the game, even compared to the Archdemon.

The Harvester was horribly difficult, but I think I'll rank that as unnecessarily frustrating than difficult.

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Kernel Cinders wrote...

I haven't even fought him yetm but yeah, Harvester is Numero Uno. I'm looking forward to getting my butt handed to me once I play that DLC. /rofl

DA:O I'd say Gaxkang is the most overpowered, and Archdemon is just annoying. Both are "endurance" fights. Just don't waste mana/stamina hurting Gaxkang until he can't lifetap anymore. Not sure if Manadrain, Templar, and/or Electricity runes help, but once he stops tapping he's gimp. Glorified Reaver with AoE Lifetap lol. It took me three reloads to beat him on Normal. Yeah, yeah, he's way harder in Hard/Nightmare I'm sure, but I'll still beat him down like the overpowered llama he is. =P

I just used the mana clash spell or something like that.

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I defeated the Harvester on Nightmare, so if I import that Warden to Witch Hunt will the Harvester come up as my greatest kill or does the game recognise any of those saves after the autosave when you enter the forge?

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Shade of Wolf wrote...

I just used the mana clash spell or something like that.


I've read this before. I tried casting Mana Clash on him several times. Resisted a couple times, then it did a few hundred damage and he was apparently out of mana then.

Bad luck I guess. But this was a max magic mage on normal mode.

I've one-shot the keeper in the Brecilian Ruins with mana clash, but Gaxkang didn't seem to care.

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Shade of Wolf wrote...



I defeated the Harvester on Nightmare, so if I import that Warden to Witch Hunt will the Harvester come up as my greatest kill or does the game recognise any of those saves after the autosave when you enter the forge?


It's the same like with the Mother in Awakening. Since there is no autosave at the end you can only import from an earlier savegame before you killed the Harvester resp. the Mother.

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The Dragon in Haven But that is also relative to the level you are at had my clock cleaned several times until I came back a little stronger .

Modifié par baldmop, 22 septembre 2010 - 05:33 .


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If we go strictly by rank, the Archdemon is a level 22 Elite boss, making him the most powerful enemy in Origins. Both Gaxkang and the High Dragon in Haven, can scale all the way up to level 20 (and are also Elite Bosses) and I believe the High Dragon will surpass Gaxkang if they are both at level 20.



Ser Cauthrien is another Elite Boss that can scale up to level 20, but is surpassed by both the High Dragon and Gaxkang.



Of course, the enemies from Awakening and GoA will surpass those from Origins due to their higher level. The Harvester is indeed the toughest enemy in all the DA games.

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I think the Harvester battle's difficulty relies heavily upon the imported class or whether you started a new Lvl. 20 Warden.

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The Harvester by far has given me the most trouble. As a rogue archer with no mages in the team it is tough. still struggling to defeat it on hard difficulty, nearly there but the orange skeletons keep pummeling me at the last minute, so annoying!

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The Harvester is not my greatest opponent; twas his many orange colored summons. I hated those things....

In DAO, my first encounter with Ser Cauthrian is almost always my greatest challenge. Other encounters have certain weaknesses; her not so much.

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I really don't know who is theoretically "strongest".... but Harvester is the most difficult one for me....