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Elhanan wrote...

The Harvester is not my greatest opponent; twas his many orange colored summons. I hated those things....
In DAO, my first encounter with Ser Cauthrian is almost always my greatest challenge. Other encounters have certain weaknesses; her not so much.

Indeed.  The strongest monster in DAO is a toss-up but the toughest encounter is definitely Cauthrien at Howe's palace, unless one exploits the AI by running away.  Winning that on nightmare without leaving the room is DAO graduate school.

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DWSmiley wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

The Harvester is not my greatest opponent; twas his many orange colored summons. I hated those things....
In DAO, my first encounter with Ser Cauthrian is almost always my greatest challenge. Other encounters have certain weaknesses; her not so much.

Indeed.  The strongest monster in DAO is a toss-up but the toughest encounter is definitely Cauthrien at Howe's palace, unless one exploits the AI by running away.  Winning that on nightmare without leaving the room is DAO graduate school.


Thing is, if you want the "Traveler" achivement you WANT to get captured.  If you do not, you will not get the Traveler achivement, as that version of Fort Drakon is not the same map as the end game version, in regards to the achivement.

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AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

Thing is, if you want the "Traveler" achivement you WANT to get captured.  If you do not, you will not get the Traveler achivement, as that version of Fort Drakon is not the same map as the end game version, in regards to the achivement.


Or you may kill Cauthrian, then get captured. escape, and kill her again. All that is missing is the sprinkles...

Wait! Two Summer swords! SPRINKLES!

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For some reason my codex is registering the High Dragon in the Dragonbone waste as the ''strongest'', the fight itself was a doddle.

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Several Awakenings beasties are stonger than any in Origins but they're easy to defeat because the characters are overpowered.

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Wrong.

For the record, in Origins it's:

Archdemon > High Dragon > Gaxkang > everything else

In Awakening it's:

Queen of the Blackmarsh > everything else

Modifié par Jean-Funk Van Damme, 25 septembre 2010 - 01:35 .


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Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...

Wrong.

For the record, in Origins it's:

Archdemon > High Dragon > Gaxkang > everything else

In Awakening it's:

Queen of the Blackmarsh > everything else

The Queen of the Blackmarsh? Really? Is that official? I usually do the Blackmarsh first, but the High Dragon in the DRagonbone Wastes still registers as the strongest. On Bioware though it's the Archdemon I think *goes to check*

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Yup, I've checked and the High Dragon from Awakening has replaced the Archdemon.

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Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...



In Awakening it's:

Queen of the Blackmarsh > everything else


lol... really? that was a very easy fight...

Modifié par Acharnae, 25 septembre 2010 - 07:55 .


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I figure the toughest fight used to be Cauthrien's ambush before the patch, and Marjolain's fight always gives my team some major trouble. but as to the toughest single enemy... I guess the high dragon? maybe?

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In Awakenings, my toughest battles are The Mother, simply because she calls for aid.

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The Harvester is the toughest fight because of all of the minions and your useless party,
Gaxkang is the strongest by far, if only he could summon hordes that do as much damage as him..

Modifié par Bratinov, 26 septembre 2010 - 09:47 .


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Upon reflection, I would dislike meeting the Fade Sloth demon solo. Even when I place my party on hold, I still gain the benefit of healing magics.

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I guess anywhere with a cramped space and boss = tough for most people. I think people underestimate Gaxkang because you can miss him so easily.

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Lack of space is only really of consequence with certain boss types, like dragons.

I still don't understand what's so difficult about Gaxkang, for me both Flemeth and the High Dragon were much more difficult. Ser Cauthrien is also harder than Gaxkang I think. Then again, I only fight Gaxkang very late in the game and Flemeth/High Dragon earlier, so perhaps that makes a difference.

The most difficult battle for me has always been the one outside Fort Drakon with the dragon and 2 emissaries. Probably easy with spell resist gear though.

Modifié par termokanden, 26 septembre 2010 - 03:11 .


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termokanden wrote...

Lack of space is only really of consequence with certain boss types, like dragons.

I still don't understand what's so difficult about Gaxkang, for me both Flemeth and the High Dragon were much more difficult. Ser Cauthrien is also harder than Gaxkang I think. Then again, I only fight Gaxkang very late in the game and Flemeth/High Dragon earlier, so perhaps that makes a difference.

The most difficult battle for me has always been the one outside Fort Drakon with the dragon and 2 emissaries. Probably easy with spell resist gear though.

I agree, the battle outside Fort Drakon was tough, but even at that it wasn't impossible. When I said 'cramped spaces' I was referring to Gaxkang.
I owned all the dragons in the game, and Gaxkang wasn't hard if you have Mana Clash/Cleanse or whatever.
Why do lots of people find Flemeth hard? My sister killed her below level 10 by equipping every party member with a bow and standing as far away as possible lol. It was funny, but close.

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Shade of Wolf wrote...

termokanden wrote...

Lack of space is only really of consequence with certain boss types, like dragons.

I still don't understand what's so difficult about Gaxkang, for me both Flemeth and the High Dragon were much more difficult. Ser Cauthrien is also harder than Gaxkang I think. Then again, I only fight Gaxkang very late in the game and Flemeth/High Dragon earlier, so perhaps that makes a difference.

The most difficult battle for me has always been the one outside Fort Drakon with the dragon and 2 emissaries. Probably easy with spell resist gear though.

I agree, the battle outside Fort Drakon was tough, but even at that it wasn't impossible. When I said 'cramped spaces' I was referring to Gaxkang.
I owned all the dragons in the game, and Gaxkang wasn't hard if you have Mana Clash/Cleanse or whatever.
Why do lots of people find Flemeth hard? My sister killed her below level 10 by equipping every party member with a bow and standing as far away as possible lol. It was funny, but close.


 Yes Flemeth vs artillary only barrage, is cake, since she is hampered by staying on the  small plateau, therefore not being as mobile as the High Dragon.

 Harvester is the hardest Encounter, because of it's powerful minions, and then the extremely fast second form it takes.  Especially with lack of crowd control.

 Gaxkang is so nasty because it is an extremely tight space and you can't keep range and caster far enough away. 

 Gaxkang might not be the toughest by codex power level the way you encounter him increases his difficulty.

Modifié par NightmarezAbound, 26 septembre 2010 - 06:42 .


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I haven't played the golems DLC (and people say it's hard) and haven't encountered gaxkang (will do in my 2nd playthough) so for me the hardest battle was flemeth. Maybe because I was really low level and had inadvertedly turned off tactics throughout the game.



The most enjoyable though was awakenings where you get the staff of the lost. Very nice AI. :)

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DWSmiley wrote...

Several Awakenings beasties are stonger than any in Origins but they're easy to defeat because the characters are overpowered.


Try your overpowered char from Awakening to fight the harvester, you will get a fearsome battle. Specially in Hard and Nightmare

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Shade of Wolf wrote...

I agree, the battle outside Fort Drakon was tough, but even at that it wasn't impossible. When I said 'cramped spaces' I was referring to Gaxkang.


I know.



I owned all the dragons in the game, and Gaxkang wasn't hard if you have Mana Clash/Cleanse or whatever.


I owned him with my rogue, my 2h warrior and my mage without any problems. I'm not trying to be mean here, but he wasn't even anywhere near the dragons in difficulty.

Then again, for no apparent reason (well, randomness) sometimes certain fights can vary wildly in difficulty.



Why do lots of people find Flemeth hard?

 
Honestly because the first time I played the game I expected I could switch off my brain and steamroll everything. Worked just fine until I fought Flemeth. Once I realized this, it wasn't exactly difficult. You have to understand I was completely on autopilot when I first played.

Of course you can also realize that Flemeth can't actually move, but I didn't want to exploit that. Anyway forget Flemeth then, consider the High Dragon instead.

Modifié par termokanden, 26 septembre 2010 - 08:12 .


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The Spirit Apparatus in the Anvil of the Void - hate this encounter on higher difficuly settings. It is like the Harvester on a carousel, but less fun and no cotton candy. Just turn this one down to Easy, and get finished with it....

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I hate that one on all difficulties. It just goes on and on and on...



Least favorite fight in the game. Plus those undead are much tougher than other undead. Not more interesting, just tougher.

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Yeah, normally I handle that "carousel" battle fine, but I have had 2 runthroughs where it was inexplicably brutal.

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It's not so much whether it's difficult or not, it's just insanely boring.

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termokanden wrote...

Shade of Wolf wrote...

I agree, the battle outside Fort Drakon was tough, but even at that it wasn't impossible. When I said 'cramped spaces' I was referring to Gaxkang.


I know.




I owned all the dragons in the game, and Gaxkang wasn't hard if you have Mana Clash/Cleanse or whatever.


I owned him with my rogue, my 2h warrior and my mage without any problems. I'm not trying to be mean here, but he wasn't even anywhere near the dragons in difficulty.

Then again, for no apparent reason (well, randomness) sometimes certain fights can vary wildly in difficulty.




Why do lots of people find Flemeth hard?

 
Honestly because the first time I played the game I expected I could switch off my brain and steamroll everything. Worked just fine until I fought Flemeth. Once I realized this, it wasn't exactly difficult. You have to understand I was completely on autopilot when I first played.

Of course you can also realize that Flemeth can't actually move, but I didn't want to exploit that. Anyway forget Flemeth then, consider the High Dragon instead.

Lol, I know you're not trying to be mean, I personally didn't find Gaxkang hard, and I did it on Nightmare to get the shield but to be honest there were many ''normal'' enemy encounters where I wiped and found harder than the bosses.
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