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[Gavinthelocust]

I'd personally prefer cockney seeing as that accent will be dead in a generation or two.

[Lenimph]

ozenglish wrote...

Actually considering that the Elves are a galic/scandanavian belief, then equating them to being Native American is a bit odd don't you think?

No not really, considering that Dragon Age has always tried to be a "unique" fantasy experience. 

Oh and the wiki makes references to their similarities to both the Native American and the Celtic dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Elves 
 "The elves of old may represent pre-colonization American advanced civilizations, while the current elves may represent the status of post-colonization Native Americans. Elves also tend to have Anglo-American accents, but that "lack" of an accent may also merely symbolize their loss of their own heritage." 
"The Dalish also seem to resemble the Celts, who were also known for their warpaint, and who also were subject to discrimination and loss of their homelands: first from the Romans, and later the English."

Modifié par Lenimph, 21 septembre 2010 - 02:59 .

[mellifera]

Well, pre-colonized Native Americans didn't really have "American" accents, did they? I dunno if I am remembering correctly but I think the Dalish in the book had an accent when they spoke English too.



The only Welsh accent I've been exposed to is from the people on Torchwood, lol. The ones on TV sound nice though, I've heard people refer to it as "sing-songy".

[Lenimph]

yukidama wrote...

Well, pre-colonized Native Americans didn't really have "American" accents, did they? I dunno if I am remembering correctly but I think the Dalish in the book had an accent when they spoke English too.
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 No they didn't have American accents, but they didn't exactly magically regain their language.

Majority of the Dalish can't even seem to read Elvish, or even recognize it. It would seem odd to me for them to be able to preserve the old accent.

I'm starting to think the Welsh accent might be region specific for DA2 

Modifié par Lenimph, 21 septembre 2010 - 03:31 .

[Zjarcal]

I don't even know how the welsh accent sounds, but based on what has been mentioned in the thread, it doesn't sound like a bad idea for them to have it.

[Krytheos]

Kileyan wrote...

Welsh seems fitting, although I don't see why the elves can't have many varied accents. They are not more special than humans. A human from Fereldan sounds nothing like a human from Orlais. I assume, I may be wrong, that the free wild elves inhabit the fringes of civilization all over this franchises new world, not just the parts we have seen in Origins. There is no reason to think they all won't have different accents, or region specific idiosyncrasies, even if they share the same language.

Hell some may have never met others from extreme distances, they might barely understand some of their kin, let alone all sound alike.

The elves seem to often lament losing their past, there is a good chance many of them are fragmenting into different languages and histories as they know them.

Honestly, though the Welsh kind of fits for the Dalish with the City Elves being...I forget what the accents for City Elves are now like, but yeah, the Welsh is definitely a fine choice for the Dalish, and the others are fine choices as well.

I mean, it could be worse. It could be Cthulhu's strange vocal accent, and then we'd all go insane and die (painfully.) 

[Viva la France]

what you talking aboot, eh

[packardbell]

It seems fitting that they have Welsh accents though I'm unsure where that leaves city elves, shouldn't there accent be that of whoever they're with i.e like fereldan city elves would have english accents while city elves from oralis would have a french accent and so on.



Guess that's too differentiate?

[FieryDove]

B3taMaxxx wrote...

What are the elves called in the North?

Santa's helpers?

Okay...on topic

Welsh, interesting. Someone suggested Gaelic, that would have been very interesting.

[SirOccam]

MariSkep wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

To all the people asking what a Welsh accent sounds like, there's this:

Wow... that's actually very irritating. Anything from someone who isn't a comedian?

It's hard to search for on YouTube since it mostly returns people trying out a Welsh accent or whatever. But here's Ioan Gruffudd (another Welshman) speaking normally on CraigyFerg's show.
http://www.youtube.c...Z2ruE-Q#t=1m25s

jonluke93 wrote...

I couldn't hear the Welsh guy at all

Rob Brydon (the comedian) is plenty Welsh enough for the both of them.

[Lenimph]

packardbell wrote...

It seems fitting that they have Welsh accents though I'm unsure where that leaves city elves, shouldn't there accent be that of whoever they're with i.e like fereldan city elves would have english accents while city elves from oralis would have a french accent and so on.

Guess that's too differentiate?

It isn't going to work that way, even though that would actually make sense. Gaider has stated the city elves will still have the American accent... 
I'm just not going to think about it anymore...

[Kerilus]

Maybe Hawke will be Henry the V

[mellifera]

Lenimph wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Well, pre-colonized Native Americans didn't really have "American" accents, did they? I dunno if I am remembering correctly but I think the Dalish in the book had an accent when they spoke English too.
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 No they didn't have American accents, but they didn't exactly magically regain their language.

Majority of the Dalish can't even seem to read Elvish, or even recognize it. It would seem odd to me for them to be able to preserve the old accent.

I'm starting to think the Welsh accent might be region specific for DA2 

But if they were pre-colonized regaining their language wouldn't be an issue since they haven't lost it yet.

I imagine for insular communities such as the Dalish, they develop their own kind of accent as time passes on. They may have learned English, but that doesn't mean that as English speaking Dalish passed on the knowledge a specific sort of accent was born (which probably weren't Ferelden or American or whatever).

[Leonia]

Too bad we didn't get to be Welsh in Origins, I totally want my Warden to sound like Gwen from Torchwood.

[ShrinkingFish]

So.... if they speak with a Welsh accent... then that means no one will be able to understand a single word they are saying anymore...



Light social commentary aside, I actually agree with this shift. It makes perfect sense to me considering Welsh history.



Perhaps the reason you find the comparison between the Elves and the Native Americans so pleasing is because you are less familiar with the Welsh's history with the English?



Besides, a flat accent is not the "Native American" accent (if there is such a singular accent). The flat accent is the accent of Hollywood, the media and the cinema. Most of America doesn't even speak with a flat accent, letter lone the indigenous cultures. And besides, the accents of different indigenous people's differ based of their tribes and places of upbringing. Not a single Elf within game has spoken with any form of any indigenous American accent.

[Sandtigress]

yukidama wrote...

Well, pre-colonized Native Americans didn't really have "American" accents, did they? I dunno if I am remembering correctly but I think the Dalish in the book had an accent when they spoke English too.

The only Welsh accent I've been exposed to is from the people on Torchwood, lol. The ones on TV sound nice though, I've heard people refer to it as "sing-songy".

The Dalish in the book did have an accent.  In my head it's always been a soft one, I can't remember exactly how the books describe it so I don't know if I pulled that from there or just made it up. But the Welsh works for me - I'm really glad they're differentiating the Dalish from the City elves - it makes no sense for them to have the same accent since they live completely apart.

[valleyman88]

I can understand giving the Dalish an accent of their own, but Welsh?! If you're going to make them talk gibberish and force me to use subtitles, why not just give them the pikey accent from Snatch? Getting Brad Pitt to do some voice work would certainly please the lady fans (and some particularly manly fans), no?

Also, Rob Brydon is terrific. I'm too lazy to look it up for you, but if you can find a clip from QI where he talks about institutional racism against the Welsh (or any clip from QI, really), it will improve your life.

[mellifera]

valleyman88 wrote...

I can understand giving the Dalish an accent of their own, but Welsh?! If you're going to make them talk gibberish and force me to use subtitles, why not just give them the pikey accent from Snatch? Getting Brad Pitt to do some voice work would certainly please the lady fans (and some particularly manly fans), no?

Also, Rob Brydon is terrific. I'm too lazy to look it up for you, but if you can find a clip from QI where he talks about institutional racism against the Welsh (or any clip from QI, really), it will improve your life.

Iassume they're doing the same thing they dowith the English actors, in terms of using the clearest and most understandable version. Like, the way news anchors speak or something.

[falconlord5]

Excellent.

[Risax]

outlaworacle wrote...

At least it's not Dutch! There's only two things in the world I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch (hopefully someone will recognize that).

I was taken aback, having just made my first "real" (as in gonna play to the end) Dalish character. However, it would kinda work for him, oddly enough.

Wasn't that from Austin Powers?

Also I'm Dutch and...No Dutch accents please!

[KLUME777]

Im against this, it goes against the lore. Why change it all of a sudden?



They better have a damn good reason, like there a different race of dalish or something.

[SirOccam]

valleyman88 wrote...

Also, Rob Brydon is terrific. I'm too lazy to look it up for you, but if you can find a clip from QI where he talks about institutional racism against the Welsh (or any clip from QI, really), it will improve your life.

"They're making jokes about w(h)ales!"

Stephen Fry is my hero.

[Kurzan]

It depends on what part of Wales they take the accent from. Some parts of deepest, darkest Wales, where the men are men and the sheep are frightened, is difficult to understand. I doubt they'll go down that route however, as there's no way the yanks will understand.

[Sylvius the Mad]

The original plan for DAO was to have all the humans have a Welsh accent, but they couldn't find enough voice-actors who could do a Welsh accent (keep in mind they were casting the humans in London, and chances are every Welsh-voice-actor's agent reads London casting calls).

I loved that idea, and I love the Welsh accent (I have family around Llandudno), so this is terrific news.

Even people who don't know the Welsh accent should immediately recognise it as distinct from the English (RP) accent used by humans in DAO.

Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 21 septembre 2010 - 07:35 .