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Attribute Manipulation! (restatting)


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Jeremyz0r

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A friend of mine yesterday figured out how to reallocate his points.  I spent the last hour attempting to perfect it and with at least 1 Attribute point you can change every single stat. (Starting from level 1!)

Here are the steps you need to take.

1) Add a point to any stat.
2) Hit the reset button.
;; Take notice by the amount of points you add, you can start subtracting!
3) Keep doing it.  Add a stat point (or 3) and hit reset.  If you do it twice with 3, you can now subtract 6 and put it anywhere.
;; You can only subtract from the same stat you've been adding+resetting.  You'll lose the ability to subtract in that stat field if you reset while not at your default (what it's at when you reset).

Example:  Say I have 10 CON.  I add 1 stat, then hit reset.  Now I can subtract to 9, but if I reset it'll go back to 10 and I can't subtract unless I repeat the first part.  However, if I leave it at 10 and start the add+reset on another stat, I can come back to CON and subtract again.

Example#2:  +3 Con, reset. +3 Con, reset.  +3 Con, reset. +1 Con, Reset!  I can now subtract all the way to 0, you can't go into the negative.  You can't make stat points (So far) appear out of thin air.  You're simple reallocating them somewhere else.  As long as you have 1 point you can always open the menu to change your stats around.

Let's say you're on a Rogue. Add some STR.  Equip some new gear, remove all that STR and put it into Cunning.  With the correct talents, STR doesn't do anything for you anyways.  Last but not least, if you're level one (or 2 if didn't come with stat up book DLC).  CON does NOT give you HP.  You can remove all 10 of it, hit next., and have 13 points waiting to be spent but not lose any hp.  Weird?  90 hp with 10 Con, 90 hp with 0 Con.

My friend states that he removed all his Con at a much higher level and lost only 18 hp.  I guess this is where I give credit to Yan.  I hope this all wasn't too confusing. Dx

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You have a base amount of Health that increases per level on its own. Constitution just adds to this. That being said, every stat has it's purpose, however minuscule it may be on a per class basis. In conclusion, exploits like this take out the challenge from the game I'd think. Or it may add, depending what difficulty you're playing on.



Either way, enjoy easy difficulty if you think constitution is useless, because that's obviously what you're playing on.

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Jeremyz0r

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I'm only sharing our experience me and my partner in crime have discovered.  I'm not trying to reduce the challenge or steal the fun out of the game.  Like you said, some people could make the game more challenging for them selves.

These are only examples and my experiments in a short matter of time.  I've always played the game on Hard, so has Yan.  I've never felt the need to add Con to non Tanks.  If the situation calls for it, I can correct my mis-judgement with this knowledge.  I don't understand why you're being extremely negative.

edit: "This forum is for fans of Dragon Age: Origins to actively discuss story, gameplay or other discussion elements that may spoil the game for other fans"

Modifié par Jeremyz0r, 11 novembre 2009 - 08:42 .


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Dwazgull

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You can only do this when you level up ;)



Some people see the con example as cheating and do not like it. Con does add HP, iirc 5HP per point.

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Because it's exploiting a bug.