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[AdamNW]

theelementslayer wrote...

AdamNW wrote...

You're both correct.

Liara states that they are monogendered, but the codex says all-female.

No, kraidy is correct, they are monogendered. mono means one, not none. That one gender/sex is female.

Actually, I'm pretty sure Liara says that they are neither male nor female.

Either way, the Codex says female.

[ObserverStatus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

*facedesk*

And people wonder why I prefere to stay in the groups <_<

I know, my snarky comments on issues like this have become the scourge of this forum, it's no wonder that people want to avoid me.

[smecky-kitteh]

No.

[ObserverStatus]

smecky-kitteh wrote...

No.

Really? Bummer.

Modifié par bobobo878, 22 septembre 2010 - 01:58 .

[stewie1974]

Asari take no DNA from any other species...

Assari have two sets of gene codes they pass on to their child.. the second set needs to be randomised in order to prevent "cloning".... randomised meaning the "order of the gene sequence" not the protiens acids added to.

A "mate" only provides a "map" of their own gene sequencing..and it is that "map" that is used.. not any genetic material.......

so while the "map" might belong to the "other species"... the genes which are rearranged still are assari...

It's not about "adding spice" to a food.. because nothing is actually "added"

. it's about "cooking the same ingredients in a different way"

However what is confusing is that Asari have very feminine based language for a "sexless" species.

Maiden stage, Matron stage, Matriarch stage... and they still refer to themselves in the feminine.... and even use the word "father" as their culture apparently hasn't invented a word for the "non mother".... now apologists will say , they might have a word for it in their own language... fine... why not use it then? Ardat -Yatshi wasn't difficult for us to accept ...why would the "assari word for the person who provided the map for my birth" ...or the "asari word for matron, maiden, matriarch"...

Modifié par stewie1974, 22 septembre 2010 - 02:11 .

[kglaser]

AdamNW wrote...

Hey, I  just talked to Aethyta and that's just what she did when I was talking to Conrad Verner
The facepalm transcends species/genders

[Uber Rod]

AdamNW wrote...

You're both correct.

Liara states that they are monogendered, but the codex says all-female.

Exactly, thus there can be no male Asari. However the Asari can breed asexually, since it doesn't matter the gender or species they "mate" with. The physical act is not as important as the psychic act. That is the confusing part about the Asari. 

The original poster is, unfortunately, completely wrong.

[AdamNW]

Uber Rod wrote...

Asari can breed asexually, since it doesn't matter the gender or species they "mate" with.

http://en.wikipedia....al_reproduction

[Sand King]

Really

[ObserverStatus]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

OP is wack.

Let's use the less judgemental term "psychologically different" mmk?

[StarcloudSWG]

AdamNW wrote...

Uber Rod wrote...
Asari can breed asexually, since it doesn't matter the gender or species they "mate" with.

http://en.wikipedia....al_reproduction

It's very clear that Asari are not asexual; they need a partner. They're not, strictly speaking, parthenogenous either, since again, they need a partner to conceive, even if all the physical DNA material comes from the mother.

Parthenogeny always leads to direct clones of the mother. 

[crimzontearz]

for the love of god why do people NOT read the codex then come here and star asking moronic questions?

[ObserverStatus]

crimzontearz wrote...

for the love of god why do people NOT read the codex then come here and star asking moronic questions?

[ArcanistLibram]

Asari are neither male nor female.

The Codex is written by humans for their benefit.

The Asari cannot have any kind of gender differentiation when referring to themselves. The concept can't even exist in their language. They might have developed it for other species or animals that live their own planet, but not for themselves.

[Uber Rod]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

AdamNW wrote...

Uber Rod wrote...
Asari can breed asexually, since it doesn't matter the gender or species they "mate" with.

http://en.wikipedia....al_reproduction

It's very clear that Asari are not asexual; they need a partner. They're not, strictly speaking, parthenogenous either, since again, they need a partner to conceive, even if all the physical DNA material comes from the mother.

Parthenogeny always leads to direct clones of the mother. 

I can agree that asexual was a poor choice of words. I was trying to point out that Asari don't need any physical material from their partners in order to reproduce. Still pretty close as all the genetic material comes from the one Asari, whether or not half needs to be randomized by a psychic connection to a "mate."

[StarcloudSWG]

I honestly would not be surprised if, at this point, it were revealed that Asari *can* reproduce parthenogenically, and it's just "not done" because it is taboo for them.

[crimzontearz]

yorkj86 wrote...

StarcloudSWG wrote...

I honestly would not be surprised if, at this point, it were revealed that Asari *can* reproduce parthenogenically, and it's just "not done" because it is taboo for them.

It would be a nice little reveal, adding to the setting's lore.  Though, with ME2, Bioware really went out of their way to make sure that the player knows that asari/asari relationships are taboo. 

no....asari asari reproduction is taboo.....no one said anything about relationships

[stewie1974]

ArcanistLibram wrote...

Asari are neither male nor female.
The Codex is written by humans for their benefit.
The Asari cannot have any kind of gender differentiation when referring to themselves. The concept can't even exist in their language. They might have developed it for other species or animals that live their own planet, but not for themselves.

but they still use "Maiden, Matron, Matriarch"..... surely these "life" stages still have titles in "asari language" that are not defined by feminie terms... which begs the question again, why not just use the Asari word...

Maiden, Matron & Matriarch are definite feminie terms... a species that is monosexed would not use these words.
Asari have their own language... Ardit yatchi is obviously an asari word, and wasn't too baffling a word for us humans to understand ... it's a thing...   So "Asari word = this stage of life"... why they would use maiden, matron, matriarch when they are sexless and not the asari word is beyond me....

for the "benefit of humans" is a sell out.

Mind you they all speak english ((depending on your region))  even when in private conversations like all alien species in mass effect do , so I guess that's the real reason...  and before anyone chimes in with universal translator.... why do their lips move in sync to the spoken language too , and why isn't Ardit yatshi translated to demoness of the night winds....

Modifié par stewie1974, 22 septembre 2010 - 03:19 .

[GnusmasTHX]

Universal Translator. Why their lips don't move in an alien language? Seriously... No, seriously... Seriously?

[Greed1914]

yorkj86 wrote...

Greed1914 wrote...


Yep.  They've made it pretty clear that there are no Asari males.  Even Asari fathers are female.  It's basically like adding different spices to the same food.  It might be taste a little different, but it's still the same thing overall.  Asari have different skin tones and might take on a few personality traits of the father, but every child born of an Asari is and Asari female.

Nope, that's the result of parenting.

If you believe that everything is always nurture over nature.  When asari mate, they attune their nervous system to their partner's, so it's hard to believe that something of the father doesn't slip through.

[PWENER]

People in the forums are sometimes dumb as hell. Some guy said that Asari are fully female.



Asari aren't female, they are monogendered. Liara says so in ME1.



Dumb people are dumb.