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[Lyssistr]

Darynal wrote...

Not an expert on PC games, but aren't there other ways to play the old IE games on newer computers -- without having to go through GoG?

I've read posts mentioning Dosbox and other such things, etc etc. My current desktop runs BG1&2/IWD/everything else fine, as it's 5 years old, but I wonder about this for when I do pick up a new PC.

 Some people report success some report failure on BGI/II & new machines (it may be because of e.g. the new OS, the gfx drivers).

 DosBox is very good for playing games for Microsoft's Disk Operating System (DOS) games. However, IE games were win32 (win95/98 and later made compatible for XP/Vista and now for win7 as well) so DosBox cannot run them per se (though I admit someone too adventurous could try running win95 on top of dosbox and see how bg plays).

 If you want to buy a new computer, I'd say buy it and see how your BG disc plays, I don't think anyone can forecast 100% success but many people have managed to play BG on win7. If it doesn't play you can resort to GoG (*).

 Also an advantage GoG has is that its games don't have any annoying CD checks or DRM, this very convenient, especially for people who want to play BG on a laptop, or even a netbook (netbooks don't have a DVD drive).

(*) you could also try playing the game through a VM, get e.g. VirtualBox (free virtualizing software) install win98 or XP and see if BG plays with directx turned off.

[Lyssistr]

gog also released NWN (probably I express a minority here, but I just couldn't get into NWN). No BG II so far :'(.

[Flamedance]

I'd get NWN for the addons (which are quite decent) and above all for all the wonderful mods for that game, many of which are far superior to the original game. Agreed that the oc of nwn was fairly disastrous, though.

[Lyssistr]

Flamedance wrote...

I'd get NWN for the addons (which are quite decent) and above all for all the wonderful mods for that game, many of which are far superior to the original game. Agreed that the oc of nwn was fairly disastrous, though.

 Maybe my judgement indeed stems from judging NWN as standalone game and not as a platform for mods.

I played the game for a few days, maybe a week, back when it was released and felt disappointed, mainly because I was expecting a new Baldur's Gate, just centered around a different city, with different characters and a new (but equally good) storyline.

In comparison to BG saga, it felt I don't know, somewhat less interesting. Maybe I should give it a go again just to try fan-made mods. I don't even need to pay GoG, I had gotten the xps as well because later (~ '04), Atari released a huge collection with BG, BGII, ICWD, ICWD II, Torment, NWN+Hotu+Sou, ToEE, Demon Stone and others. I bought all that for something like 30£! back then. 

Modifié par Lyssistr, 28 octobre 2010 - 01:48 .

[Lyssistr]

 ICWD II @ GoG now, when the eck are they going to put Baldur's Gate II there . Probably, being the best Infinity Engine game, they're keeping it for last.

[Eurypterid]

Lyssistr wrote...

 ICWD II @ GoG now, when the eck are they going to put Baldur's Gate II there . Probably, being the best Infinity Engine game, they're keeping it for last.

Everyone's hoping for tomorrow. Should be this week, anyway, judging by their last schedule of releases and the hints in their e-mail update.

[Eurypterid]

BG2 (including ToB) is now available on GOG!

[Lyssistr]

Eurypterid wrote...

BG2 (including ToB) is now available on GOG!

at ****ing last

One of the best games of all time now DRM free available for digital download. I hope they continue the D&D trend at GoG and release goldbox games and possibly NWN2 (though this is one is definitely not an old game).

[Fallschirmjager007]

Eurypterid wrote...

BG2 (including ToB) is now available on GOG!

Took them long enough!

Time to go spend $10...

[carnivorous]

What is DRM? From what I've been reading, DRM places restrictions on what you can do with something. But I played the original (most number of CDs) releases of Baldur's Gate I and II and their expansions and I'm not sure what restrictions there were. What DRM did Baldur's Gate I and II have?

I've been hearing about GoG for a while now, but my only concern is that the versions of the games they release aren't official because they aren't from the original game developer. What exactly did they change?

Modifié par carnivorous, 16 novembre 2010 - 09:45 .

[Kevin Lynch]

DRM for the BG games was a disc check. The CD needed to be in the drive to play. Back then, it wasn't called DRM, but that's what everything related to copy protection and anti-piracy schemes are lumped under these days.



GoG doesn't change anything other than to get it to work, and usually includes any patches and such right in the install, not to mention they test them on current OSes (at the time of release) to make sure they work. They are fully licensed from the publisher/developer/rights owner (whoever makes that sort of licensing decision), so they are totally legit if that's what you are concerned about.

[carnivorous]

What's this thing called "Gamespy"  that the original version installs? Would you consider it spyware/DRM? Does the GoG version have Gamespy?

Aside from this, it's great to know that GoG games are legit. At the moment, I have only one last reservation I can think of that prevents me from buying from GoG...yet.

Their homepage is in English, which leads me to believe that their games are also in English, but I can't be sure of this. This thread, for example, introduces a lot of confusion: http://www.gog.com/e..._region_this_is

Just from reading that thread, I'm not sure whether GoG games are based on a particular region or aren't based on any region at all. I wouldn't mind so much if all the possible regions were included. So for example, if the game included Italian, French, US English, and UK English, I wouldn't mind so much as long as the game behaves EXACTLY like the US English version of the original (non GoG) version when I set the region to US English in the GoG version. But if the GoG version is based only on one region (that thread seems to indicate that at least some games are UK English), then I have a slight problem with it simply because there might be differences between the UK and US English versions (possibly even differences other than language differences). Of course, if the GoG version is based on, say, a French version that GoG translated into English, that's an even bigger problem. How exactly does it work?  Are there multiple versions of each GoG  game  (e.g. Italian, French, UK  English, US  English)?

Modifié par carnivorous, 16 novembre 2010 - 06:55 .

[Lyssistr]

Kevin Lynch wrote...

DRM for the BG games was a disc check. The CD needed to be in the drive to play. Back then, it wasn't called DRM, but that's what everything related to copy protection and anti-piracy schemes are lumped under these days.

GoG doesn't change anything other than to get it to work, and usually includes any patches and such right in the install, not to mention they test them on current OSes (at the time of release) to make sure they work. They are fully licensed from the publisher/developer/rights owner (whoever makes that sort of licensing decision), so they are totally legit if that's what you are concerned about.

 I think one out of BG/BG:ToSC/BG II/BG II:ToB (can't recall which one though) uses laserlock(*), an old DRM scheme but indeed it's mostly simple CD checks.


(*) DRM is installed by the publisher so this may not apply to all regions.

[Kevin Lynch]

carnivorous wrote...

What's this thing called "Gamespy"  that the original version installs? Would you consider it spyware/DRM? Does the GoG version have Gamespy?

Gamespy at Wikipedia and Gamespy website. That'll tell you all you need to know. No need to wait for info from forumites when it's right there for the reading and viewing.

Of course, if the GoG version is based on, say, a French version that GoG translated into English, that's an even bigger problem. How exactly does it work?  Are there multiple versions of each GoG  game  (e.g. Italian, French, UK  English, US  English)?

GoG doesn't do translations of games, they just make the old games available for playing on current OSes. They say that the version they have is English, so it's an English version of the original game. Why don't you ask GoG directly about it through their support (rather than just read the forum)? They will, at least, be able to give you a better answer than speculation by people on the forums.

[Flamedance]

[quote]carnivorous wrote...



Their homepage is in English, which leads me to believe that their games are also in English, but I can't be sure of this. [quote]


All the GOG-games are in  English, even those - like the Earth- and the Gothic series, which originally were in German - that originally were in another language. You can't buy the German version of Gothic at GOG, only the English version.

Modifié par Flamedance, 16 novembre 2010 - 11:06 .