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[smudboy]

I know, I know. :*(

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Smudboy, you could have made this video better. And I’m surprised that you missed a few things such as:

How come Tela Vasir was able to fight? She lost so much blood and she was barely able to even walk

"Second Wind, err, pint of blood", "Van Damme".

When Vasir takes a hostage you can choose to shoot her. When you do this you might notice that her barriers weren’t working?

Darned cutscenes!  This happens with the Collectors, too, during the Suicide Mission, wherever everyone picks off Collectors,while single shotting them with an AR.  I wanted to distance ME2 as much as possible.

Vasir can use charge to move in light speed and jump on buildings! Why didn’t she use this power in order to escape from Shepard and Liara in the first place? And also why didn’t the Shadow Broker agents just pick her up when you were fighting them?

Having an epic car chase/shooting/vanguard teleporting scene would've been too awesome.

Dammit, you have a point.  Why didn't she just run away?

Why was Feron wearing a good looking leather outfit when being the Shadow Broker’s prisoner

After 2 years?  I guess the SB likes to torture in style.  Like, maybe fix him all up in physical health, and a nice tailor, and then torture him.  Could be a hobby.

Why did Vasir kill all those people at Azure hotel?

She did?  I saw her shoot a mech when she crashlands.

[Midnight_Thirty]

smudboy wrote...

Midnight_Thirty wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I tire opf these videos

if your contempt is so great then why not simply play a bethesda game or simply stop playing Mass Effect?

It's because Smudboy is a giant troll and he enjoys bashing something like this in order to get responses. Go back and listen or read his stuff and you will see it's all very similar in tone. I find it kinda humorous how it usually plays out. His arrogance and pretension really get people going.

I don't think you quite understand what a troll is.  In fact, neither do I.  Although I do wish to welcome debate, doing so by starting it off with name calling isn't the best bet.

However, if you have AN ACTUAL POINT, and then call me a flaming moron, or some such: this I can work with.

As it is, you are yet another wonderous report button poster.  Please comment on the analysis, or not at all, thanks.

Troll: somebody who posts something with hopes of an emotional response.

I WAS commenting on the analysis. I was inferring that what you say and write is mostly pointless, including this analysis. It is here to get under people's skin, that is all.

This stuff is a form of entertainment, it's not supposed to be life changing or hugely profound. There has to be a balance between narrative and gameplay. Sometimes story elements are sacrificed in order to make a more interesting gameplay scenario. If you want a great narrative go read a George R.R. Martin novel. Don't take this stuff too seriously, because in the end, it's only a game.

[smudboy]

Midnight_Thirty wrote...
Troll: somebody who posts something with hopes of an emotional response.

I don't personally care either way, although I do find other peoples responses entertaining.

I WAS commenting on the analysis. I was inferring that what you say and write is mostly pointless, including this analysis. It is here to get under people's skin, that is all.

Ah, I don't see an argument or reference to anything I analyzed.  You're speaking in general.

This stuff is a form of entertainment, it's not supposed to be life changing or hugely profound. There has to be a balance between narrative and gameplay. Sometimes story elements are sacrificed in order to make a more interesting gameplay scenario. If you want a great narrative go read a George R.R. Martin novel. Don't take this stuff too seriously, because in the end, it's only a game.

Sure, media is a form of entertainment.  It's also a tool for teaching.  Stories have the ability to convey ethics, or moral decisions, to provide insight into the human condition.  There's no reason why ME cannot do this: yet time and again, Shepard has little depth, the characters background is alterered without exposition (making them completely different), and things go the way of the contrived-random-event-chain.

Regardless, despite its flaws, LOTSB is the best part of the ME2 experience.

[Anacronian Stryx]

I took the whole landing in front of the SB ship as being because of those huge antennas with lightning strikes made it impossible for the shuttle to land any were else.

[Jonathan Shepard]

While I don't agree with every problem you have (such as the 5-wave door sequence), many of your points are ones I concluded during my playthrough as well. Still, it's a video game. In space. About war. Among multiple factions. Why wouldn't there be waves of enemies to kill? It's not pure cinematic/literary entertainment. It's interactive. So, you get to kill the bad guys and test your skill at pressing buttons smartly.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Shandepared wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

I took the whole landing in front of the SB ship as being because of those huge antennas with lightning strikes made it impossible for the shuttle to land any were else.

If that were the case then Liara or Shepard should have said so as they came in to land.

Use your eyes, 1/3 of the ship is engines, 1/3 is rounded and has huge antennas sticking out  1/3 is the front which is flat and looks perfect for landing.. hmm wonder where the shuttle pilot chooses to drop us of in this storm.

Smudboy makes a lot of good comments in his vids but that doesn't mean everything is pure gold or impervious to criticism..as I'm sure he himself would agree with.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Midnight_Thirty wrote...

smudboy wrote...

Midnight_Thirty wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I tire opf these videos

if your contempt is so great then why not simply play a bethesda game or simply stop playing Mass Effect?

It's because Smudboy is a giant troll and he enjoys bashing something like this in order to get responses. Go back and listen or read his stuff and you will see it's all very similar in tone. I find it kinda humorous how it usually plays out. His arrogance and pretension really get people going.

I don't think you quite understand what a troll is.  In fact, neither do I.  Although I do wish to welcome debate, doing so by starting it off with name calling isn't the best bet.

However, if you have AN ACTUAL POINT, and then call me a flaming moron, or some such: this I can work with.

As it is, you are yet another wonderous report button poster.  Please comment on the analysis, or not at all, thanks.

Troll: somebody who posts something with hopes of an emotional response.

I WAS commenting on the analysis. I was inferring that what you say and write is mostly pointless, including this analysis. It is here to get under people's skin, that is all.

This stuff is a form of entertainment, it's not supposed to be life changing or hugely profound. There has to be a balance between narrative and gameplay. Sometimes story elements are sacrificed in order to make a more interesting gameplay scenario. If you want a great narrative go read a George R.R. Martin novel. Don't take this stuff too seriously, because in the end, it's only a game.

Before you waste precious time of your life, I'm going to warn you that Smudboy doesn't listen to reason. Not only that, but he expects WAY too much out of a video game, specifically Mass Effect.  He seems to forget that it is a piece of entertainment.

-Polite

[Anacronian Stryx]

Shandepared wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...


Use your eyes, 1/3 of the ship is engines, 1/3 is rounded and has huge antennas sticking out  1/3 is the front which is flat and looks perfect for landing.. hmm wonder where the shuttle pilot chooses to drop us of in this storm.

This should have still been pointed out in dialog to the player.

It's similar to the WIlson thing. I figured right away in my first play-through that Wilson had been an agent for the Shadow Broker but I agree with Smudboy that this should have been pointed out to the player in dialog. All it requires is a couple of sentences (or even just one sentence with a better writer than me):

Jacob, "You really think WIlson is capable of that?"

Miranda, "Wilson was working for the Shadow Broker. I recovered one of his transmissions just before Wilson turned the mechs on us. It was how I was able to get you," nods to Shepard, "up and moving in time."

I agree on the Wilson part - But the SB ship needs no explanation, At some point you just have to expect players are able to think just a little and look around for themselves.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Reverie wrote...

I couldn't get past the use of 'gay' I haven't heard anyone over 12 use that one in a long while.

Get over yourself, bloody overly sensitive forumites.

Smudboy that was a great analysis, and i pretty much agree on all of your points except i don't think ME2's storyline was THAT bad.

[smudboy]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

I took the whole landing in front of the SB ship as being because of those huge antennas with lightning strikes made it impossible for the shuttle to land any were else.

If that were the case then Liara or Shepard should have said so as they came in to land.

Use your eyes, 1/3 of the ship is engines, 1/3 is rounded and has huge antennas sticking out  1/3 is the front which is flat and looks perfect for landing.. hmm wonder where the shuttle pilot chooses to drop us of in this storm.

Smudboy makes a lot of good comments in his vids but that doesn't mean everything is pure gold or impervious to criticism..as I'm sure he himself would agree with.

Honestly, that render of the ship?  I don't see any antennaes sticking out of the back of the ship.  Probably because it's too far away, or that's the design, or a different model.  I think there's 3 large ones running at the front.

And if you look at the door-decrypting area, there's plenty of room to drop in from.

[smudboy]

Shandepared wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

I agree on the Wilson part - But the SB ship needs no explanation, At some point you just have to expect players are able to think just a little and look around for themselves.

"We'll have to land at the front or else those lightning rods will burn the shuttle to a crisp!"

That's all I'm asking for.

See?  Perfect.  Or "we can't fly in from the top, the lightning is too dangerous!  We have to go in from the front!"

[Anacronian Stryx]

smudboy wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

I took the whole landing in front of the SB ship as being because of those huge antennas with lightning strikes made it impossible for the shuttle to land any were else.

If that were the case then Liara or Shepard should have said so as they came in to land.

Use your eyes, 1/3 of the ship is engines, 1/3 is rounded and has huge antennas sticking out  1/3 is the front which is flat and looks perfect for landing.. hmm wonder where the shuttle pilot chooses to drop us of in this storm.

Smudboy makes a lot of good comments in his vids but that doesn't mean everything is pure gold or impervious to criticism..as I'm sure he himself would agree with.

Honestly, that render of the ship?  I don't see any antennaes sticking out of the back of the ship.  Probably because it's too far away, or that's the design, or a different model.  I think there's 3 large ones running at the front.

And if you look at the door-decrypting area, there's plenty of room to drop in from.

There no less than four antennas in the door decryption area (that the player can make able use of in the fight) I'm not saying that it's impossible to get a shuttle wedged in there and maybe land on the ship in that storm if you're like Han Solo or something, But the sensible thing for the average Cerberus pilot is to go for the front.

[Pacifien]

This is going to be my one and only warning to everybody who posts to this thread.

This is someone's review. He is not forcing you to watch it. If you do watch it, feel free to discuss the points he made in that review. If you start insulting each other, I'll ban you. If you think it's okay to insult someone because they insulted you first, I'll ban both of you. If you insinuate an insult, I'll ban you.

Read the Site Rules which you all agree to abide simply by posting here. No flame wars. Thank you.

[The Big Nothing]

Pacifien wrote...

This is going to be my one and only warning to everybody who posts to this thread.

This is someone's review. He is not forcing you to watch it. If you do watch it, feel free to discuss the points he made in that review. If you start insulting each other, I'll ban you. If you think it's okay to insult someone because they insulted you first, I'll ban both of you. If you insinuate an insult, I'll ban you.

Read the Site Rules which you all agree to abide simply by posting here. No flame wars. Thank you.

As you wish.

Guess which movie I'm referencing. Want another hint, Buttercup?

Huh?

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 23 septembre 2010 - 01:22 .

[Nightwriter]

I wish you'd stop focusing on the more trivial things, like the fact that kitchen technology hasn't improved in hundreds of years and we landed on a weird part of the ship.

You have a very talented critical eye and I'd rather you focus it more on things like Shep just accepting a random Spectre's sudden appearance and being unable to tell Vasir that serving the Council is nothing to be proud of.

Focus, smudboy. Use the Force!

[TMA LIVE]

I'm still questioning why Vasir didn't destroy the Shadow Broker data, so Shepard would stop chasing her, and the Shadow Broker remains hidden.

[Tamyn]

This guy's voice makes me feel like I'm in an airplane listening to the captain over the loudpseaker. "And now coming up on your left..."

Modifié par Tamyn, 23 septembre 2010 - 04:02 .

[Whatever42]

Shandepared wrote...

You know what else? A single line of exposition also could have explained where the troops on top of the ship were coming from (little elevators) as well as why Shepard and company couldn't use them.

Shepard, "Can we use one of these lifts those troops just came up out of?"

Liara, "No, the controls are on the inside, nothing to hack from out here."

It's that simple. A few extra lines from Shepard or Liara and a portion of Smudboy's video could have been avoided.

With the amount of exposition required to explain every little decision in the game, things would get quickly bogged down. Believe it or not, I have never read a book or watched a movie or played a video game that explains everything.

Hey, he had cereal for breakfast when we know he loves waffles! We need some exposition to say that he is out of waffles!

But you guys are amusing.