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[Vordimier]

Do no, I repeat, DO NOT, I say again, DO NOT kill off Shepherd as matter of canon story-line or force the player to sacrifice himself in order to save the galaxy in the fight against the reapers or whatever in Mass Effect 3 or by inaction in saving himself, cause the galaxy to be destroyed.

It doesnt take a genius to figure out and understand that this is not what people wish to see or happen(generally speaking) concerning someone who is supposed to represent a messiah figure that saves the galaxy, allbeit with methods that vary according to player choices.

It is not a good idea. You have the actual capability and potential to pull off one of the best, if not all-time best video game trilogies in video gaming history if you play your cards right. People do not play this game to kill off the hero - they never do, unless they are trying something different. Its just not the norm. Game history shows this - every great game in the past has always had the main character and all those that are important to that main character survive.

Take, for instance, Baldur's Gate 1-2 + Throne of Bhaal; excellent example. It wasnt forced, but the player had a choice for something good, in between or evil, allbeit, during the evil ending the character still lived - but so did its companions.

Do not take, for instance, Fallout 3; the end is where you pigeon-holed into sacrificing yourself to save someone else or having someone else sacrifice themselves so that you can benefit from it and live. The point being is that there is no choice to live and have everyone else live as well.

You have done such with ME1 concerning Wrex and the Council. Players had that choice. Hell, even with choosing whether Kaiden or Ashley lived is actually tolerable, because its an acceptable loss given the situation at hand, but we got to choose what happened. In ME2 - you gave us the option to kill of people if we desired and to have them all live; perfect example of allowing us to choose to save others and save the day and LIVE.

The point is living and the point is choosing to live while doing what is right and good and have the others live as well.

Dont screw it up, Bioware. This is your chance to make history above and beyond your peers.

[PWENER]

This is Shepard's favorite thread.

[Symji]

Personally, I think that if you were foolish enough to follow the renegade path through both games, thereby divesting yourself of several potential allies, a pyrrhic victory should be the best possible outcome you should be able to achieve.

[PWENER]

Im with cerberus yet still made friendly with everyone.



Rachni spared. Krogan cure retrieved. ect...

[PsyrenY]

Killing off Shepard will keep him/her out of the movies and books, so I actually approve.



A sacrifice like that would also be the ultimate paragon act. Alternatively, it could be the ultimate comeuppance for being a Renegade.

[Vordimier]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Killing off Shepard will keep him/her out of the movies and books, so I actually approve.

A sacrifice like that would also be the ultimate paragon act. Alternatively, it could be the ultimate comeuppance for being a Renegade.

Thats pigeon-holing people who want to follow the path seen, ultimately, as "the good and proper way things should be done" into acting in a manner that essentially states that you cant be, in the end, good unless your dead to save others.

Renegade, on the other hand, has leeway to be so, to a point, because it is seen as the ruthless path to get the job done whether or not something or someone else could have lived or whatever depending on the situation. The job over everything else.

Bioware has set up the premise of choices carrying over, which leads to the conclusion that choices should dictate the out-come, which means, in the end, there should not be two clear-cut endings and nothing else.

Mass Effect 3 should have an abundance of different endings in order to truly give the freedom of the ending into the players hands...unless they just dont want to - in which case it has the serious potential to sour in many people's head.

Im willing to bet, however, that Bioware is going to shunt the player into specific roles and the players wishes be damned. After all, this is about a human being thats in the military...and we all know that how the perception is concerning the military.

The sacrifice for the greater good, that is, death of the hero to save others is the classic past time ending to all things in this category and Im not willing to believe that Bioware will not follow suit - which is why I created this thread.

It would be epic fail is Bioware did such.

[Chris Priestly]

Sorry. Too late. Shep's dead.

You will play ME3 as a volus with a limp. Her name will be Q. T. McSmallpants and she will have a fear of firearms, biotics, aliens, strong language and minigames.

Oh, and she'll be celibate.

[timj2011]

Yes?

Or would that be no?

That's not for you to decide!

[Rajorn]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry. Too late. Shep's dead.

You will play ME3 as a volus with a limp. Her name will be Q. T. McSmallpants and she will have a fear of firearms, biotics, aliens, strong language and minigames.

Oh, and she'll be celibate.

Sounds good.

[smudboy]

Come on.  Third time's a charm, right?

Expert writing through experience!

[wolfsite]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry. Too late. Shep's dead.

You will play ME3 as a volus with a limp. Her name will be Q. T. McSmallpants and she will have a fear of firearms, biotics, aliens, strong language and minigames.

Oh, and she'll be celibate.

Will we be able to start a business on the citadel and work threw the shady busines deals with Eclipse and the Blue Suns to make our establishment the best place to visit on the Citadel? 

[Vordimier]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry. Too late. Shep's dead.

You will play ME3 as a volus with a limp. Her name will be Q. T. McSmallpants and she will have a fear of firearms, biotics, aliens, strong language and minigames.

Oh, and she'll be celibate.

That is just...wrong...on so many levels. At least I know you have seen this thread, though from the research that I gather concerning your role in Bioware is that you manage the forums, correct? I keep getting hits on you being the Community Manager.

That does, however, give credance to the idea that you have the capability to pass along information, which no doubt something that you have specific orders for depending on what it is.

Ill ask anyways; if you have the ability and it doesnt conflict with your role as Community Manager - please pass along the intention of this thread. If your able to that is. If not, oh well, I hope the designers see it anyways.

[cachx]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry. Too late. Shep's dead.

You will play ME3 as a volus with a limp. Her name will be Q. T. McSmallpants and she will have a fear of firearms, biotics, aliens, strong language and minigames.

Oh, and she'll be celibate.

Where can I preorder ?

[AFLoneWolf]

Screw the volus.



I wanna play as Blasto!

[Chiyeko]

Indeed keep the whole crew in one piece (I am fine to sacrifice some few thousands lives and a couple of hundred ships though)



I was just so glad I could end up with ME2 with my whole squad still in one piece ready for some more action.

[Aprudena Gist]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry. Too late. Shep's dead.

You will play ME3 as a volus with a limp. Her name will be Q. T. McSmallpants and she will have a fear of firearms, biotics, aliens, strong language and minigames.

Oh, and she'll be celibate.

You best not be lying about playing a volus i bet he's a biotic god too.

[Annihilator27]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sorry. Too late. Shep's dead.

You will play ME3 as a Hanar. His name will be Blasto and hes an expert of firearms, biotics, aliens, strong language and minigames.

Oh, and He's also a Soldier,Engineer and a Biotic.

Fixed

Modifié par annihilator27, 22 septembre 2010 - 10:54 .

[Elite Midget]

No, it would be a female Volus. We have never seen one yet so it would be new and exciting.



Or maybe we have but we can't tell them apart since they sound and look alike!

[s0meguy6665]

i dont see why they would do it like this. they would probably let there be several endings, and in one of them shepard may die.

[CARL_DF90]

Some are getting paranoid, no? We should all relax. I expect there to be multiple endings based on how you've played ME3 but also the first two games as well. If there is an ending where Shepard dies and/or the Reapers win I expect that outcome to be totally the player's fault & not Bioware's.

Either way expect Mass Effect 3 to be great. Just wait & see my friends!

[Tennyochan]

okay, kill shepard again.

got it.



*notes down*

[Gibb_Shepard]

I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!!! NO MARTYRDOM ENDING!!!!



Building shepard up over the course of 3 games just to have him die canonically would be an absolute kick in the quad; and i'll feel like all that time playing as shepard would have been a waste.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Symji wrote...
Personally, I think that if you were foolish enough to follow the renegade path through both games, thereby divesting yourself of several potential allies, a pyrrhic victory should be the best possible outcome you should be able to achieve.

Hmm. I say if you were foolish enough to follow the ultra-paragon path through both game,  your gullibility and idealism backfires and ensures the best possible outcome for Shepard is a horrible death.

[Revan312]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...



I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!!! NO MARTYRDOM ENDING!!!!



Building shepard up over the course of 3 games just to have him die canonically would be an absolute kick in the quad; and i'll feel like all that time playing as shepard would have been a waste.

How is it a waste if he/she saves the galaxy? If Shep just died in the beginning of ME3 and you played the rest of the game as TIM I can see it being a waste, otherwise, I see a martyr ending as being the best and most appropriate for at least my idea of Shepard. It better be an option at the end at least and preferably it should be an inevitability if your actions throughout all three games make it the most logical outcome.



This is the last game and the LotSB ending convo with a romanced Liara made me think Shep is pretty much at peace with the fact that he/she will most likely die with the coming conflict.. All my Sheps will be dieing at the end, hopefully, if that option exists.. Our hero is living on borrowed time imo after having been killed once already.



And it wouldn't even need to be a big "die in a blaze of glory" ending, maybe just die alone and cold in dark space near the corpses of the reapers he/she defeats, unable to return to galactic space. Regardless, Shep's death best be an option, I wouldn't want it any other way.