But am I supposed to take you seriously right now?! If BioWare gives me an answer, am I supposed to take them seriously?! What if we're all just recordings in a dossier that no one's supposed to take seriously?! Seriously?!
Your interpretation of Miranda's LotSB dossier
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#102
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:01
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Sometimes being serious can be seriously dangerous to be taken seriously.Nightwriter wrote...
But am I supposed to take you seriously right now?! If BioWare gives me an answer, am I supposed to take them seriously?! What if we're all just recordings in a dossier that no one's supposed to take seriously?! Seriously?!
#103
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:19
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But I'm being super serial!!
#104
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:22
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Nightwriter wrote...
This iPartners thing has just fried my brain. I wish they'd just pop in and tell me if I'm supposed to take it seriously or if it's just a joke. If it's just a joke I'll have a laugh and stop thinking about it.
What's the big deal, anyways?
#105
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:29
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Big deal?
There was no big deal. At first.
I thought the emails were a joke. And then I came on and people were discussing them seriously. They were all like, "Oh, no, it wasn't a joke, she was really trying to have sex with these guys."
"She was trying to get pregnant!"
"No she wasn't! That's a stupid way to try and get pregnant!"
"You're all wrong! SHE WANTZ DA SEX!!"
"No she doesn't!"
"What are you worried about? God. It was probably before the romance!"
"It says SR2 in her username!"
"There's probably a really elaborate explanation for that! Here, I'll think of one!"
"I don't buy it!"
"Buy it!"
"No!"
"BUY IT!!"
"Would you all quit it! It's just a joke!"
"No it's not it's very sad! You shouldn't be laughing!"
"Yes I should!"
"No you shouldn't!"
"Pregancy!"
"Sex!"
"Scratching an itch!"
"Cheating!"
"Her dad flipped her baby switch to 'off'!"
*Nightwriter's head explodes*
There was no big deal. At first.
I thought the emails were a joke. And then I came on and people were discussing them seriously. They were all like, "Oh, no, it wasn't a joke, she was really trying to have sex with these guys."
"She was trying to get pregnant!"
"No she wasn't! That's a stupid way to try and get pregnant!"
"You're all wrong! SHE WANTZ DA SEX!!"
"No she doesn't!"
"What are you worried about? God. It was probably before the romance!"
"It says SR2 in her username!"
"There's probably a really elaborate explanation for that! Here, I'll think of one!"
"I don't buy it!"
"Buy it!"
"No!"
"BUY IT!!"
"Would you all quit it! It's just a joke!"
"No it's not it's very sad! You shouldn't be laughing!"
"Yes I should!"
"No you shouldn't!"
"Pregancy!"
"Sex!"
"Scratching an itch!"
"Cheating!"
"Her dad flipped her baby switch to 'off'!"
*Nightwriter's head explodes*
#106
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:34
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*dodges debris from Nightwriter's head*
I took them seriously...I just don't have a problem with them. *shrugs*
I'm fine with my XO doing her thing.
I took them seriously...I just don't have a problem with them. *shrugs*
I'm fine with my XO doing her thing.
#107
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:37
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jlb524 wrote...
*dodges debris from Nightwriter's head*
I took them seriously...I just don't have a problem with them. *shrugs*
I'm fine with my XO doing her thing.
It's probably because you're not dating her. As for people like you and me, well, Miranda's a grown woman, so she can do whatever she wants. (shrugs)
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 23 septembre 2010 - 10:14 .
#108
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 10:31
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AntiChri5 wrote...
Hmmm, i dont have full control yet.......
That's because you're being too nice about it. You have to sieze control, like Harbinger.
#109
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:02
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I think she just wanted sex. I don't have a problem with it, though certain things give me a mild headache when I try to reconcile them. As long as she doesn't compromise the mission and was honest with her partners, I'm fine with it.
#110
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:04
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She wanted to have a kid, and Bioware wanted to give us a shocker way of finding out so they strung us along with the dating chats and then revealed the mighty saddening blow at the end. It's a storytelling issue - it wouldn't have been as effective if they didn't trump out misconceptions at the end and instead just had a doctor report explaining she can't concieve via artificial insemination.
#111
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:13
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TMA LIVE wrote...
jlb524 wrote...
*dodges debris from Nightwriter's head*
I took them seriously...I just don't have a problem with them. *shrugs*
I'm fine with my XO doing her thing.
It's probably because you're not dating her. As for people like you and me, well, Miranda's a grown woman, so she can do whatever she wants. (shrugs)
Yeah, this is pretty much the size of things. I do think that the "LawbringerSR2" screenname does not automatically mean she's getting busy with strangers after Shepard was awakened. The new Normandy had that designation well before it got it's name from Shepard.
It is completely possible for a woman to want to have no-strings attached sex AND worry about her reproductive health for FUTURE children at the same time. I do not believe that Miranda would jeopardize her participation in the Lazarus Project by carelessly getting pregnant -- that's just ridiculous and the notion does a disservice to her character. She knows quite well at the beginning of the game that if the Reapers win, any child she gives birth to will have a short, unhappy life. She is simply planning ahead by thinking about reproduction, and she is scratching an itch by using the dating site.
#112
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:14
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Dating service: Probably lonely and wanted to blow of some sexual tension. 
She didn't want some low-life scum of a partner. Sex buddy whatever. She wanted the perfect man, no diseases... she bascially won't settle for nothing but the best. She even asks her sister what kind of eyes that boy had like it really matters.
Maybe she went to illium after the suicide mission was over??? They all survived (in my playthrough)... maybe she saw a glimmer of hope? Future with the man she fell in love with and had hot intimate sex with. And even she says she does damn good work! He was perfect... she re-created him. Why not consider one with him?
I am thinking that he was in a way... her way of giving birth to something great... she saw him at his worse, nursed him back to health and devoted two years on him. After it was complete maybe it left her a little empty? Wanting one maybe?
I don't think she would try to get pregnant while working on the mission with the normandy. That would be a distraction, I think!
In the beginning she says she wasn't looking for a friend and to stay focused on the mission.
As for this all being a joke? Maybe, maybe not. The infertility issue does make me sympthize with her more. Although she may be perfect in everything.... she in fact, is not. Great character flaw...
She didn't want some low-life scum of a partner. Sex buddy whatever. She wanted the perfect man, no diseases... she bascially won't settle for nothing but the best. She even asks her sister what kind of eyes that boy had like it really matters.Maybe she went to illium after the suicide mission was over??? They all survived (in my playthrough)... maybe she saw a glimmer of hope? Future with the man she fell in love with and had hot intimate sex with.
And even she says she does damn good work! He was perfect... she re-created him. Why not consider one with him?I am thinking that he was in a way... her way of giving birth to something great... she saw him at his worse, nursed him back to health and devoted two years on him. After it was complete maybe it left her a little empty? Wanting one maybe?
I don't think she would try to get pregnant while working on the mission with the normandy. That would be a distraction, I think!
In the beginning she says she wasn't looking for a friend and to stay focused on the mission.
As for this all being a joke? Maybe, maybe not. The infertility issue does make me sympthize with her more. Although she may be perfect in everything.... she in fact, is not. Great character flaw...
Modifié par enayasoul, 23 septembre 2010 - 11:15 .
#113
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:36
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Anacronian Stryx wrote...
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If it were procreation then why not just use IVF via a doner bank? As for fertility, creating a retrovirus to allow her to become pregnant would be easy enough for someone who spearheaded the Lazarus project.
Yes because we can treat most cases of something as huge as Cancer these days we can easy find a treatment for something as easy as the common cold ..medicine works that way!
Doesn't specify if she has cancer, she was genetically built so to speak, it is likely that her father disabled her ability to conceive until he found what he considered the perfect match for her.
#114
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:39
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The tumor is benign, not cancerous.
#115
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:40
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008Zulu wrote...
Anacronian Stryx wrote...
008Zulu wrote...
If it were procreation then why not just use IVF via a doner bank? As for fertility, creating a retrovirus to allow her to become pregnant would be easy enough for someone who spearheaded the Lazarus project.
Yes because we can treat most cases of something as huge as Cancer these days we can easy find a treatment for something as easy as the common cold ..medicine works that way!
Doesn't specify if she has cancer, she was genetically built so to speak, it is likely that her father disabled her ability to conceive until he found what he considered the perfect match for her.
Wow completely missing the point..kudos.
#116
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 11:41
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Nightwriter wrote...
But I'm being super serial!!
XD
Man night, your aweasome.
#117
Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 12:48
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Theory: Liara Planted Info in Miranda's Dossier
I had the theory that Liara might have planted some of the information in her dossier since I was playing as a male shepard who romanced Miranda in ME2 and had Liara as my love interest in ME1 and picked up my romance with Liara in LOTSB.
Having Miranda looking for random hookups on the extranet and revealing that she can't have children both seem like the sort of things Liara might plant to make Shepard less interested in Miranda.
But since the same info is displayed regardless of whether Miranda is your love interest or not and regardless of whether your playing as a man or a woman, I'm not sure that theory holds water. I suppose I can see Liara trying to discredit Miranda to male Shepard as a precaution regardless of whether he romanced her or not; but it makes a lot less sense if your playing as a woman particularly the file on infertility.
Regarding Miranda's Extranet Dating
Frankly it seemed out of character for Miranda. I mean I get that she's a professional and might be looking for some no strings attached sexual release; but if that's the case why wouldn't she just use some of the "sensory interface software (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)" they sell on Illium?
It just seems odd that someone as professional and full of themselves as Miranda would be willing to set aside their pride and open themselves up to a potential security risk just for random hook up. Aside from that I didn't like it since it definitely makes Miranda come off as kind of ****ty which was something that was never indicated by any of her in game actions. I mean Miranda wasn't meek and seemed pretty damned confident sexually; but that's a far way off from setting up random hook ups over the extranet.
As for the theory that she's trying to get pregnant that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean she's on a suicide mission so starting a family doesn't seem like it would be a priority at the moment and aside from that if Miranda wanted to get pregnant I think she'd be looking up a Nobel Prize winner's sample from a sperm bank since that would give her the sort of genes she'd be looking for and would be much more reliable.
Is it all just a joke?
I don't know the whole dossier for Miranda is weird. Most of the other character dossiers just give you some background info or a bit of humor; but Miranda's makes a rather major revelation in the infertility issue.
I think the dating service stuff is intended as a joke albeit one that doesn't work as well as the humor in some of the other dossiers. The way in which Miranda systematically screens her potential dates like it was a military operation is kind of humorous; but the whole enterprise just seems out of character for someone as secretive and prideful as Miranda.
The conversation with her sister is the best written entry in my mind in that it humorously shows Miranda trying to be a caring big sister; but once again shes conducting it like it was a military operation. Unlike the dating messages though it fits her character a lot better.
The infertility document definitely doesn't seem humorous; but it just seems bizarre that Bioware would choose to make a revelation with such dramatic potential through some random and easily overlooked file in her dossier in an optional piece of DLC.
I had the theory that Liara might have planted some of the information in her dossier since I was playing as a male shepard who romanced Miranda in ME2 and had Liara as my love interest in ME1 and picked up my romance with Liara in LOTSB.
Having Miranda looking for random hookups on the extranet and revealing that she can't have children both seem like the sort of things Liara might plant to make Shepard less interested in Miranda.
But since the same info is displayed regardless of whether Miranda is your love interest or not and regardless of whether your playing as a man or a woman, I'm not sure that theory holds water. I suppose I can see Liara trying to discredit Miranda to male Shepard as a precaution regardless of whether he romanced her or not; but it makes a lot less sense if your playing as a woman particularly the file on infertility.
Regarding Miranda's Extranet Dating
Frankly it seemed out of character for Miranda. I mean I get that she's a professional and might be looking for some no strings attached sexual release; but if that's the case why wouldn't she just use some of the "sensory interface software (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)" they sell on Illium?
It just seems odd that someone as professional and full of themselves as Miranda would be willing to set aside their pride and open themselves up to a potential security risk just for random hook up. Aside from that I didn't like it since it definitely makes Miranda come off as kind of ****ty which was something that was never indicated by any of her in game actions. I mean Miranda wasn't meek and seemed pretty damned confident sexually; but that's a far way off from setting up random hook ups over the extranet.
As for the theory that she's trying to get pregnant that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean she's on a suicide mission so starting a family doesn't seem like it would be a priority at the moment and aside from that if Miranda wanted to get pregnant I think she'd be looking up a Nobel Prize winner's sample from a sperm bank since that would give her the sort of genes she'd be looking for and would be much more reliable.
Is it all just a joke?
I don't know the whole dossier for Miranda is weird. Most of the other character dossiers just give you some background info or a bit of humor; but Miranda's makes a rather major revelation in the infertility issue.
I think the dating service stuff is intended as a joke albeit one that doesn't work as well as the humor in some of the other dossiers. The way in which Miranda systematically screens her potential dates like it was a military operation is kind of humorous; but the whole enterprise just seems out of character for someone as secretive and prideful as Miranda.
The conversation with her sister is the best written entry in my mind in that it humorously shows Miranda trying to be a caring big sister; but once again shes conducting it like it was a military operation. Unlike the dating messages though it fits her character a lot better.
The infertility document definitely doesn't seem humorous; but it just seems bizarre that Bioware would choose to make a revelation with such dramatic potential through some random and easily overlooked file in her dossier in an optional piece of DLC.
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Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 02:02
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Personally, I gotta take my hat off to the chick. She's an independant woman. I dig it.
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#119
Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 02:15
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implodinggoat wrote...
Theory: Liara Planted Info in Miranda's Dossier
I had the theory that Liara might have planted some of the information in her dossier since I was playing as a male shepard who romanced Miranda in ME2 and had Liara as my love interest in ME1 and picked up my romance with Liara in LOTSB.
Having Miranda looking for random hookups on the extranet and revealing that she can't have children both seem like the sort of things Liara might plant to make Shepard less interested in Miranda.
But since the same info is displayed regardless of whether Miranda is your love interest or not and regardless of whether your playing as a man or a woman, I'm not sure that theory holds water. I suppose I can see Liara trying to discredit Miranda to male Shepard as a precaution regardless of whether he romanced her or not; but it makes a lot less sense if your playing as a woman particularly the file on infertility.
Plus, for the theory to be true we'd have to find romantically deterring information in all the other ME2 LIs' dossiers.
implodinggoat wrote...
Regarding Miranda's Extranet Dating
Frankly it seemed out of character for Miranda.
Holy crap, I agree. It is so hard for me to wrap my head around her trying to find guys on the internet (if she just wants sex). I'm not sure why. I just feel like if she wanted it she'd get it some other way. If she does just want sex she seems to want it rather more badly than most people. Which is kind of troubling. It'd be different if we found an iPartners subscription in Jacob's dossier, or another character's.
Like you I have a hard time believing she wants to get pregnant, so I'm forced to think the iPartners thing is unrelated. The doctor's email makes more sense to me as a random item inserted from a routine checkup or something.
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Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 02:28
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Nightwriter wrote...
Like you I have a hard time believing she wants to get pregnant, so I'm forced to think the iPartners thing is unrelated. The doctor's email makes more sense to me as a random item inserted from a routine checkup or something.
I didn't even consider the iPartners thing and the pregnancy thing to be related until I read about it on the forums. I'd like to believe it's not.
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Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 07:21
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She's 35 so, if she wants a kid, she had better do something quick. For those that romanced her, it's perfect. Think about it....she hadn't met her ideal guy yet OR he doesn't exist...SO....she simply resurrects him from the dead enroute to saving the galaxy. I also think that if Jacob didn't work for Cerberus, he would be the one. So, the question now is...if Shep decides to stay with Cerberus, how will that affect things if she ends up having his child?
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Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 07:24
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My interpretation:
Miranda is sterile
Miranda likes sex
Can't see why people overanalyse it so much.
Miranda is sterile
Miranda likes sex
Can't see why people overanalyse it so much.
#123
Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 07:44
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Gibb_Shepard wrote...
My interpretation:
Miranda is sterile
Miranda likes sex
Can't see why people overanalyse it so much.
A lot of people have trouble accepting that Gibb, I'm not one of them though. My Shep is all into Ashley.
#125
Posté 24 septembre 2010 - 08:05
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Nightwriter, I find your assertion that Miranda just wants sex more than most people problematic. People are sexual beings, some more so than others, but frankly the fact that she tried dating online doesn't seem like she's a nympho. Consider that she's spent two years on an isolated project, with limited or no sexual options due to not wanting to do an underling. The answer, find some random male on the extra net seems perfectly reasonable as a solution.
There is no security risk, there is no physical risk, there is no emotional risk and it provides stress relief while doing the important work of rebuilding shepard
There is no security risk, there is no physical risk, there is no emotional risk and it provides stress relief while doing the important work of rebuilding shepard
