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[SirOccam]

I'd like to say I'm fine with it, but...that would be a lie. It's not that they just happen to be shorter...they're like really small. I'm not making up the shudder that happens involuntarily if I'm watching a YouTube clip and it shows someone kissing a Dwarf. I don't know what it is about it, but it's just...eww.

I don't enjoy being on the side that's trying to deprive the other side of something...I fully accept that it's pretty unreasonable of me. I just...can't help it.

If we could play as a Dwarf in DA2, I'd be all for it. If that's any consolation.

[Calla S]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
there is a difference between romancing a sexy blue woman and romancing a chick no taller than your knee caps.

I'm trying to figure out if that was hyperbole or if you really are that ignorant. This is difficult.

Dwarves aren't that short in the DAverse. Perhaps in some, but not the DAverse. Oghren comes up to a female human's sternum, and the women are only a bit shorter. It's no different from someone just upwards of six feet tall in a relationship with someone around five feet. Which, omg, is rather common. Most of the girls I've ever been interested in have been that much shorter than me. There was even a guy who was 4'11. The whole "dwarves look like children" and "PEDOPHILIA! UNCLEAN!" argument is ridiculous. But, hey, that's just my two cents~

Modifié par Calla S, 24 septembre 2010 - 05:38 .

[Enough is Enough]

Yeah, she was okay....kinda young though. Hawke has ten years though and the female dwarfs were thick bottomed so I support her as a love interest. Now Hawke can have some good loving and when she's not giving him loving she's making him a hot meal. Good food, good loving, quiet woman? Hawke will feel like the Champ of Kirkwall after all.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Calla S wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
there is a difference between romancing a sexy blue woman and romancing a chick no taller than your knee caps.

I'm trying to figure out if that was hyperbole or if you really are that ignorant. This is difficult.

Dwarves aren't that short in the DAverse. Perhaps in some, but not the DAverse. Oghren comes up to a female human's sternum, and the women are only a bit shorter. It's no different from someone just upwards of six feet tall in a relationship with someone around five feet. Which, omg, is rather common. Most of the girls I've ever been interested in have been that much shorter than me. There was even a guy who was 4'11. The whole "dwarves look like children" and "PEDOPHILIA! UNCLEAN!" argument is ridiculous. But, hey, that's just my two cents~

wow, straight to the insults, you seem very defensive of your dwarves.

and no that argument is not ridiculous at all, it is in fact a very solid argument on why the DA team may not implement a dwarf romance. the media backlash could be quite bad.

[Calla S]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Calla S wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
there is a difference between romancing a sexy blue woman and romancing a chick no taller than your knee caps.

I'm trying to figure out if that was hyperbole or if you really are that ignorant. This is difficult.

Dwarves aren't that short in the DAverse. Perhaps in some, but not the DAverse. Oghren comes up to a female human's sternum, and the women are only a bit shorter. It's no different from someone just upwards of six feet tall in a relationship with someone around five feet. Which, omg, is rather common. Most of the girls I've ever been interested in have been that much shorter than me. There was even a guy who was 4'11. The whole "dwarves look like children" and "PEDOPHILIA! UNCLEAN!" argument is ridiculous. But, hey, that's just my two cents~

wow, straight to the insults, you seem very defensive of your dwarves.

and no that argument is not ridiculous at all, it is in fact a very solid argument on why the DA team may not implement a dwarf romance. the media backlash could be quite bad.

Why is it that every time I get into a discussion, people immediately think I'm insulting them or getting defensive? I must be the least tactful person on the Internet or something. I wasn't ~insulting you.~ It was a genuine inquiry. 

And, yes, it is ridiculous, considering the dwarves aren't the size of children, don't act or sound like children, and are little more than shorter humans. 

filaminstrel wrote...
Your argument is sound, but fires like these will often persist despite sound arguments to the contrary.

Ah, yes, of course. I'm just not the sort to let my opinion go unheard just because it's unlikely I will change anything.

Modifié par Calla S, 24 septembre 2010 - 05:49 .

[joey_mork84]

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with dwarf romance. I support it all the way. Every other romance is in video games, so why exclude one and not the other? Because it has a real-life parallel? So do the homosexual romances. Hell, the inter-species romances of ME are the only 'bad' ones, IMO (I'm not sure on this one actually being in the game as I've never played ME or ME2, but am going on what others have told me). I, myself, have dated several women much shorter than myself (and that's saying a lot as I'm only about 5'5"). I honestly don't see what the big deal would be.

[mellifera]

So... where exactly was the controversy when you, as a female dwarf Warden, romanced a human character? I didn't see the media sh*tstorm over that. The only mention I saw was like, on a late night show where they were like "lolz gay sex" Nothing about pedophilia or sexualizing children... BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE SAME. JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL.

[Calla S]

[joey_mork84]

Calla S wrote...

HA! :lol::lol:

[Rogue Unit]

Beards. Hell, even dwarven women have beards. I hardly see them as children, just little people.



I wouldn't use a dwarf romance but that's no reason to exclude one. Plus, I don't see the difference between a 3 foot high dwarf being with a 6 foot tall human and a 8 foot tall qunari being with a human.

[SirOccam]

PureMethodActor wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

I'd like to say I'm fine with it, but...that would be a lie. It's not that they just happen to be shorter...they're like really small. I'm not making up the shudder that happens involuntarily if I'm watching a YouTube clip and it shows someone kissing a Dwarf. I don't know what it is about it, but it's just...eww.

I don't enjoy being on the side that's trying to deprive the other side of something...I fully accept that it's pretty unreasonable of me. I just...can't help it.

If we could play as a Dwarf in DA2, I'd be all for it. If that's any consolation.

SirOccam, I have a lot of respect for you because of your highly reasonable posts throughout the boards, but despite that, I honestly don’t see why you’re being so unreasonable here. Sure you can not like the idea, but are you REALLY advocating denying the option for those who want it? You, of all posters? I’m surprised more than anything. Look, if an option is presented for a female dwarf love interest, but NOT required, is it REALLY a problem that the option is there for you? Just don’t follow that romance path. You’d have a choice. And if you’re going to present the argument that it waste resources, then realize this: There is a growing demand for this. It’s a minority, true, but there IS visual proof of this growing demand, and eventually there will come a time when Bioware realizes they can, in fact profit, from adding a female dwarf as a love interest in a Dragon Age game. I say better sooner than later, but I’m willing to wait till after DA2 if I need to.

I know, right? It's crazy.

Okay no seriously, I'm not opposed to there being one. But by the same token, if there were a petition to have one included (and petitions did any good), I wouldn't sign it. So I'm not being as unreasonable as I was (jokingly) implying, but I am still being somewhat unreasonable!

There is something there, though. Something different, and I don't know what it is. There are things that I think are perfectly cool as options even if I don't personally want to do them (aside from maybe for the Achievement), such as having a male character romance Zevran. Absolutely no problem whatsoever with that. If I were watching a YouTube clip and it showed a male Warden kissing Zev, I'd think nothing of it. But do the same with a Dwarf (of either gender), and I get what I can only describe as a particularly severe case of the heebie-jeebies. I will immediately stop the video. DO NOT WANT. It's irrational, yes, but it is.

Some people have an irrational aversion to certain words; moist is a common one (in fact if you Google "moist" the first result is an article about how people hate it). If you say that word around such a person it will send a shiver up their spine and they will at best ask you not to say it anymore. I can only assume this is like that in some way.

An alternative explanation: Maybe I just don't like the idea of a romance that forces you to "think logistically" at any point. As evidence for this: in Mass Effect 2, I don't think I will ever have any FemShep romance Garrus or Thane, nor any Male Shep Tali (that is grounds for a jihad for some people). Maybe that just means I'm closed-minded, or maybe I'm just old fashioned, but all the pieces need to be in the right places and to the right scale.

Modifié par SirOccam, 24 septembre 2010 - 08:53 .

[Russalka]

Here I leave a reasonable discussion and it derails into an argument. The dwarf romance, if it would be available, would be completely optional, so get over it.
Kind of makes one think if people actually want a good story or just eye-candy and sex-scenes that make sense in real life. Would it feel so awful if ONE of the LIs would be shorter than it is a norm for you?

This is another world, they would have no such stigma against different races there. Why can't people think that way? Why can't they put themselves into this world properly and not tarnish every bit of aesthetic or concept that fits into Thedas with real life standards?

Modifié par Russalka, 24 septembre 2010 - 09:06 .

[Nerys]

Well said Russalka



Honestly, as long as our LI are well written and interesting, I don't give a fig what race they are. Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Qunari, it's all good in my book

[Calla S]

Nerys wrote...
Honestly, as long as our LI are well written and interesting, I don't give a fig what race they are. Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Qunari, it's all good in my book

Exactly! That is my exact train of thought. If the LI is well-written and engaging, I don't see why race should matter. You can't please everyone with every single LI, obviously, but the phrase 'different strokes for different folks' comes to mind. Don't like it? Don't romance them. It's not a big deal. And if it is an achievement, go without the full number. It isn't that hard.

[Anarya]

I kind of think a male Dwarven LI would be seen before a female one. We ladies are, in general, more openminded when it comes to appearance. I think it's no coincidence that, for example, in ME the race that was designed to appeal to women (Drell) is much more alien looking than the one that was designed to appeal to men (Asari). It's more about personality and the way the romance is written, for me anyway. And that's pretty much why I think poor Jacob is so unpopular despite being physically attractive.



I get that dwarf romance isn't everyone's cup of tea but I don't really get the whole "dwarves look like children" angle. Unless the children you're used to have weird hormonal issues.

[marshalleck]

Well children in western countries are trending toward increased obesity from the over-indulgent sedentary lifestyles being taught to them by their parents, so maybe that's why some people view dwarves as being childlike.

Modifié par marshalleck, 24 septembre 2010 - 12:07 .

[Russalka]

Dwarves in Thedas don't look obese nor like children.

[Bobad]

I'd really like to see this in DA2, would have been nice if Sigrun had been romanceable or if you could have cuckolded Oghren with Felsi.

[soignee]

"childlike."



Uh huh.







...that's possibly the only clean thing I can post here out of my Deviant Art gallery. <.<



Dwarf butt, it is fun to draw. CURVEEEEEEEEEEEES. :3

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

First off this.

I usually RP my characters to not have mixed raced romances. I wouldn't care if they added a dwarf romance for DA:2 since well they are optional, but I probably wouldn't have use for it since Hawke is human. I don't find it ew or gross for and elf to be with a dwarf or an elf with a human it just isn't my style.

For the record if Sigrun was romanceable my DC and DN would of fell for her instantly she was awesome.

Modifié par Jacks Smirking Revenge, 24 septembre 2010 - 04:18 .

[soignee]

*boring anecdata at how I've dated men a foot/30cm taller then me here*

*rambling discussion here about body types and the body ideal and how it is possible for even in a computer game to exploit this*

[.img] sexidwarfhere [./img]

Modifié par soignee, 24 septembre 2010 - 04:28 .