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[Merilsell]

Zjarcal wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Wow this actually reminds me on the many Alistair threads in the past, only with Leliana now. OP utterly fails to understand the character and his/her motives, nice forumites try to explain and give an insight, OP mostly ignores that and states even more things that are...umm ...let's call it "unhelpful". Rinse and repeat. *rolls eyes*

Thank you Merilsell. I know that Alistair fans can also relate with this very well.

Oh you have no idea how good I can relate with that, actually.

Modifié par Merilsell, 23 septembre 2010 - 11:42 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Merilsell wrote...

Wow this actually reminds me on the many Alistair threads in the past, only with Leliana now. OP utterly fails to understand the character and his/her motives, nice forumites try to explain and give an insight, OP mostly ignores that and states even more things that are...umm ...let's call it "unhelpful". Rinse and repeat. *rolls eyes*

We had a few of those in the Loghain thread too.

Just saying :innocent:

[yo bro]

MariSkep wrote...

They're both intolerable.

rofl

[yo bro]

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

[Zjarcal]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

We had a few of those in the Loghain thread too.

Just saying :innocent:

Too true!

Every character thread suffers of this.

[ejoslin]

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

[Fishy]

Yet despite everything she's been through, Leliana still manages to find beauty in the world

[yo bro]

ejoslin wrote...

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

maybe, but her tone is alot different. with morrigan she gets after me about trust. idk maybe im thinking about more the the developers did.

[MKDAWUSS]

ejoslin wrote...

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

I think there's also the "kids" factor. You need 2 different sexes to download a baby

[yo bro]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

I think there's also the "kids" factor. You need 2 different sexes to download a baby

Im confused? Lel doesnt say anything about kids

[yo bro]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

I think there's also the "kids" factor. You need 2 different sexes to download a baby

what does it have to do with having a baby? im confused. lol

[MKDAWUSS]

yo bro wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

I think there's also the "kids" factor. You need 2 different sexes to download a baby

what does it have to do with having a baby? im confused. lol

Why Lel is more supportive of Warden-Alistair than Warden-Morrigan. Just my guess.

[yo bro]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

yo bro wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

I think there's also the "kids" factor. You need 2 different sexes to download a baby

what does it have to do with having a baby? im confused. lol

Why Lel is more supportive of Warden-Alistair than Warden-Morrigan. Just my guess.

Well, maybe but I think she just like Alistair overall

[yo bro]

I wonder what Leliana would have to say about doing the DR with Morri?

[ejoslin]

yo bro wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

yo bro wrote...

Alright, this is what I wanted to know, which wasnt answered. Why is Leliana so much more possesive with the male and Morri, then the fem and Alistair. I mean she really really tore up my warden.

The answer is, she really isn't more possessive -- all the jealousy triggers are at the same places no matter who the other love interest is.  What she is is more competitive when you're romance Morrigan.  She is just as unwilling to share you with Alistair and Zevran, but a man offers a different kind of relationship than another woman does.  I'm not sure I worded this well.

maybe, but her tone is alot different. with morrigan she gets after me about trust. idk maybe im thinking about more the the developers did.

Try sleeping with Zevran, lying to her about it, and hear her go on about trust there as well once she and he both hit adore.  

[Zjarcal]

ejoslin wrote...

Try sleeping with Zevran, lying to her about it, and hear her go on about trust there as well once she and he both hit adore.  

This.

It's a heart wrenching conversation to say the least.

[Johnny Pothead]

Well, I did and she treated me like her gay best friend. Is the trust convo the same with males and females that romance Zev? I mean shes not all "your wading through zevrans swamp." That would of been awkard. I just feel like with the male warden, it is a competition to Lel with Morri and not about love. But I guess she has mixed opinions of Zev and Morrigan, where as she cares for Alistair. Maybe thats why they were lovers in the dsc dlc.

[ejoslin]

Leliana finds Zevran attractive is all She gets upset if you lie to her, though. As far as mixed feelings about Zevran? Why would you think that? She thinks they're very similar, actually. Though it wasn't until she told him that she at least tried to make clean kills that he agreed that they may be somewhat alike

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 septembre 2010 - 03:48 .

[yo bro]

Well you cant lie to Alistair because she gets after you about flirting, where as with Morrigan and Zev you have been intimate, so you can tell her a lie there. Besides the male warden, Zev is prolly the only other male she will get intimate with in the group, hardened atleast. Unhardened Lel will turn Zev down. I mean you can have a foursome.



I think what Johnny meant was Zev is into pleasure and Lel knows this, she knew alot of guys like that back in Orlais apparently from what she said to Alistair.

[ejoslin]

yo bro wrote...

Well you cant lie to Alistair because she gets after you about flirting, where as with Morrigan and Zev you have been intimate, so you can tell her a lie there. Besides the male warden, Zev is prolly the only other male she will get intimate with in the group, hardened atleast. Unhardened Lel will turn Zev down. I mean you can have a foursome.

I think what Johnny meant was Zev is into pleasure and Lel knows this, she knew alot of guys like that back in Orlais apparently from what she said to Alistair.

Now you lost me...  she never said she knew a lot of guys like Zevran back in Orlais.  She talked about targets to Alistair, and how having sex with a beautiful woman before dying was not a bad way to go (hah, she is a LOT like Zevran in her banters).  Hardened Leliana calls Zevran on his bluff, IF you get unbugged banter -- funny conversation.  And yeh, with a hardened Leliana, there are a couple of occasions where you can bring up sex with Zevran.  The foursome is one, but if you're not in a romance, you can invite her to join in after she says Zevran is attractive.  Hardened, she calls it an interesting offer.

When Leliana compares herself to Zevran, she's talking about her being a bard and him being an assassin.  Zevran asks her if she at least gives her targets clean kills, and when she said she tried, he agreed that they were similar.

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 septembre 2010 - 04:08 .

[Johnny Pothead]

didnt mean to confuse

Alistair: So I'm wondering something... what exactly does a woman see in a man like Zevran?
Leliana: Oh, he's handsome enough for some. Why do you ask?
Alistair: No reason. It's just... doesn't he seem to be a bit too much? The hair, the clothing...
Leliana: I don't understand. A bit too much what? Do you have a problem with him?
Alistair: Beyond the fact that he's an assassin who's tried to kill us more than once. No... no, not really. Do women go for that sort of thing?
Leliana: Where I come from they do, oh yes.
Alistair: Huh. Really? I see.

so apparently guys in Orlais seem similar to Zev.  Thats how I looked at it.  i could be wrong.

Idk if lel openly flirts with Zev because unhardened Lel will tell Zev that he may have his chance if he is the last man in Fereldan.

Modifié par Johnny Pothead, 24 septembre 2010 - 04:21 .

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

MariSkep wrote...

Lot of Leli fans. Ok this probably won't fly over so well.

Leliana really does seem to be slightly off center to me throughout all my playthroughs. She'd make a good friend (cog dissonance makes a lot of things possible) but look at where she is in her life. She's just been betrayed by her lover and mentor of how many years, tortured in a dungeon and then escaped through the skin of her teeth. She's so open to suggestion through out the game and in constant need of affection, I wonder if she's ever recovered from all that. Factoring in how she commits suicide in an US ending, I really have my doubts about her state of mind.

Suicide? Never had that happen, how do you screw her up so bad she kills herself?

[Johnny Pothead]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Lot of Leli fans. Ok this probably won't fly over so well.

Leliana really does seem to be slightly off center to me throughout all my playthroughs. She'd make a good friend (cog dissonance makes a lot of things possible) but look at where she is in her life. She's just been betrayed by her lover and mentor of how many years, tortured in a dungeon and then escaped through the skin of her teeth. She's so open to suggestion through out the game and in constant need of affection, I wonder if she's ever recovered from all that. Factoring in how she commits suicide in an US ending, I really have my doubts about her state of mind.

Suicide? Never had that happen, how do you screw her up so bad she kills herself?

did Morrigan behind her back. lol jk