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[KLUME777]

Ill be happy with some in game armour or something, but that should be for every new copy, like DAO, rather than loyal fans.

[MDarwin]

As a "loyalty Bonus": I "demand" a super Patch for DAO and it's Toolset.    
Which will work of cause (BW quality assured )!

What's my chance of getting that "bonus" > 60% ?

Don't worry about patching the DLC and Awakening, I do not own them. :innocent:  

God I feel "selfish" today!

[David Gaider]

KLUME777 wrote...
Ill be happy with some in game armour or something, but that should be for every new copy, like DAO, rather than loyal fans.

Yeah, I'm all for small extras. Especially as a reward for loyalty, but something that everyone can access is also good.

Is it smart business? I have no idea. So long as it's both small and extra, that can't be a bad thing.

I think there's a difference between that kind of incentive, however, and feeding into someone's entitlement. Not that I think that's what anyone is doing here, precisely, but I think you might understand how it can seem when someone essentially says "I demand free stuff! Gimme!"

But who doesn't want free stuff? I mean, really.

[MisterDyslexo]

David Gaider wrote...

Yeah, I'm all for small extras. Especially as a reward for loyalty, but something that everyone can access is also good.

Is it smart business? I have no idea. So long as it's both small and extra, that can't be a bad thing.

We're suckers for easter eggs and awesome armour

[ErichHartmann]

We want to earn DA2 loot by completing more achievements in Journeys before release too. *Hint*

[Lord_Valandil]

MisterDyslexo wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Yeah, I'm all for small extras. Especially as a reward for loyalty, but something that everyone can access is also good.

Is it smart business? I have no idea. So long as it's both small and extra, that can't be a bad thing.

We're suckers for easter eggs and awesome armour

Yeah, or something for the avatar. That would be cool.
Or a funny item, like the Butterfly Sword.

[AtreiyaN7]

Ah, yes, sarcasm doesn't always come across well - apologies then to the OP after reading your explanation earlier. I suspect the poor initial reception was due in part to the number of times we've seen negative threads about this sort of thing. *bonk self*

[Beerfish]

Although difficult to track this is one thing that many business do not handle well in my opinion. Tons of times all sorts of incentives are tossed out to attract new customers but very very very rarely do long time customers get anything at all. (I'm not saying this relates directly to this thread.)



Businesses should work harder to make sure they retain their core as well as adding to it.

All too often in the pursuit of new customers and new markets long time customers can be driven away or forgotten about when it really doesn't take a lot to retain a loyal customer.



Most companies have been guilty of it before, even BioWare a time or two.

[VanDraegon]

ImBadJuju wrote...

As a loyal Dragon Age fan and player - even after DOA and Witchhunt, I'm curious if those of us who have been there from the beginning will receive some sort of discount, or free copy, of the sequel. I honestly can't believe we were made to pay so much for DOA, which was a pointless add-on, and Witchhunt, which, though expensive, gave us such a short, short reprieve from our otherwise stressful lives.

rofl. Right. With development costs in the multiple tens of millions of dollars and they are just giong to give away thousands of copies of the new game to disgruntled gamers. lol, sure.....

You knew there was always a chance you wouldnt be happy with any of the DLC or expansion, yet you bought them anyways. That is always the case with creative media. There are no guarantees you will like it. You take a chance and move on if unhappy.

[VampireCommando]

In a ideal worlds sure why not, however that said we all live far from a ideal world and although BW might provide us with some of the best games in the buisness, great after care for them (patches), Amazing and constant DLC and actually bother to get involed with there fan base on the BSN where as alot of companies just sit and watch, they are at the end of the day a buisness, it isn't like they make games in there free time, its a ful time job that by the looks of it is rather bloodly hard, they have themselves to take care of, bills to pay, familes to feed and other costs i'm sure so they kinda rely on making utterly amazing games and getting paid for it, which comes from the profit of making and selling those games. So no i don't think any of us, no matter how loyal or how long we have been a BW fan boy/girl are entitled to a fre copy of any of there games, i for one think its rather rude to ask such a questin but thats just me.

[ZtalkerRM]

David Gaider wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...
Ill be happy with some in game armour or something, but that should be for every new copy, like DAO, rather than loyal fans.

Yeah, I'm all for small extras. Especially as a reward for loyalty, but something that everyone can access is also good.

Is it smart business? I have no idea. So long as it's both small and extra, that can't be a bad thing.

I think there's a difference between that kind of incentive, however, and feeding into someone's entitlement. Not that I think that's what anyone is doing here, precisely, but I think you might understand how it can seem when someone essentially says "I demand free stuff! Gimme!"

But who doesn't want free stuff? I mean, really.

On that subject, loved the way you guys handled the release of DA:O.
I bought a legal copy (of course) and got Shale and The Blood Dragon Armor. The special edition people even got Wardens Keep if I remember correctly. People who pirated it didn't get those extra's.

Small extra's like that keep you smiling as a customer. It has benefits for you, benefits for us and in the end everybody is happy.

Maybe you guys could create an in-game item for DA:2 based on the save from DA:O you use. For example, if you finished the game as human noble, there will be a Cousland Family Blade somehwere in the beginning of the game...if you finished as a Mage, you could find the Wardens original Mage Staff....that way the item itself isn't 'exclusive'  but ye old DA:O players do feel special for obtaining something 'new' players don't.

Modifié par ZtalkerRM, 24 septembre 2010 - 09:28 .

[Aradace]

A FREE copy of DA2? Are you serious? lol. I wonder if BioWare is laughing as hard as I am at the OP right now lol.

[blothulfur]

As a long time consumer of bioware goods I demand they include in the DA2 release an air guitar, a set of clothes such as the emperor wore and an action man deserter. If my demands are not met I will shrug, SHRUG I say.

[Aradace]

blothulfur wrote...

As a long time consumer of bioware goods I demand they include in the DA2 release an air guitar, a set of clothes such as the emperor wore and an action man deserter. If my demands are not met I will shrug, SHRUG I say.

You sir, are made of pure awesome lol.

[Homebound]

We already get something dont we? If we played the original game, our Warden sets the canon instead of a default story. To me thats enough. I dunno about u OP.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I think it would be nice if there was an in-game item only available to those who played the first game, but nothing major. Maybe just an in-joke like the mage staffs in Awakening. (For anyone who missed them, there's one called Flemeth's Broomstick and another called Lamppost in Winter. The description of the latter notes that licking it would be unwise.)

[SoR82]

Ill agree that he has a point this kind of thing is not the norm but....some companies do it, I wouldnt expect bioware to they release dlc and fair play to them for that... though someone really needed to get kicked in the nutts for that witch hunt business. Oh and the comment we have 2 years of dlc planned...... is that why they wer eoften bugged you condensed your 2 years of releases into a shorter time frame?



Off topic Im amazed you Stan are even allowed to wear that company badge on these forums i have seen you post in a few threads and you come across as aggresive and bordering on insulting at times. You may wish to step away form the keyboard and count to 10 before answering these posts demanding/asking/requesting this that and the other

[JrayM16]

SoR82 wrote...

Ill agree that he has a point this kind of thing is not the norm but....some companies do it, I wouldnt expect bioware to they release dlc and fair play to them for that... though someone really needed to get kicked in the nutts for that witch hunt business. Oh and the comment we have 2 years of dlc planned...... is that why they wer eoften bugged you condensed your 2 years of releases into a shorter time frame?

Off topic Im amazed you Stan are even allowed to wear that company badge on these forums i have seen you post in a few threads and you come across as aggresive and bordering on insulting at times. You may wish to step away form the keyboard and count to 10 before answering these posts demanding/asking/requesting this that and the other

Indeed.  While I definetely consider myself in the Bioware camp supporting DA2 and ME2's new direction, I take it upon myself to call for a certain  level of respect from everyone to everyone, regardless of what side they're on in this debate.  So I would also like to call out Mr. Woo for his words, even if they were what most of us were thinking when we saw this, Bioware deserves a PR guy who doesn't try to insult and potentially alienate fans for no good reason. 

Just look at Priestly's response which came mere minutes after Woo's post.  It expressed the same basic message while being respectful and explaining why the OP's request wasn't in Bioware's interests calmly.  Priestly's post in this thread is the perfect example of how much of the conversation on these boards should be.

[joriandrake]

MisterDyslexo wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Yeah, I'm all for small extras. Especially as a reward for loyalty, but something that everyone can access is also good.

Is it smart business? I have no idea. So long as it's both small and extra, that can't be a bad thing.

We're suckers for easter eggs and awesome armour

having a Dalek as enemy or to see the Tardis somewhere would be already awesome for me

[AlexXIV]

If I wouldn't be disappointed with DA2 it'd be reward enough for me. I'd even pay more for that.

Seriously, if money is such a concern for you, you should probably spend it for other things than video games.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I think Bioware should buy me my own private island, themed in Dragon Age motifs and populated by supermodels in sexy nug costumes. I'm such a good customer!

[Daur]

cosgamer wrote...

ImBadJuju wrote...

As a loyal Dragon Age fan and player - even after DOA and Witchhunt, I'm curious if those of us who have been there from the beginning will receive some sort of discount, or free copy, of the sequel. I honestly can't believe we were made to pay so much for DOA, which was a pointless add-on, and Witchhunt, which, though expensive, gave us such a short, short reprieve from our otherwise stressful lives.

The original game, however, has been amazing, and the majority of downloadable content was well worth the price. Is there any way that those of us who have downloaded all of the add-ons, and purchased DOA, can be rewarded or otherwise compensated for the above two additions?

It never hurts to ask...hopefully.

You do realize you're talking about EA, right?

As for the DLCs, they were a rip-off.  For what you're paying (on an average $3+ per hour) they are NOT worth the price.

I disagree, the items one recieves in ALL files after completeing certain goals in the dlcs more than make up for the price

[Chrumpek]

At least I'd like to be able to do something with my save in DA2 i mean I did so many things there in dlcs and expansion I won't it to carry on ~^