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[Angmir]

Here's the sit-rep:

On Tali's loyalty mission I persuaded The Anmirality Board to Tali's innocence, then revealed it secretly to pro-war male Admiral. Moreover I encouraged Quarrians to go to war with Geth at the end of the Trial. As my gol is to ensure Quarian win in the war Later in the game I tried to subotage the Geth in evry way I could. So I:
- destroied the Heretics
- sided with Tali in her "argue" with Legion
- helped alll the Quarians I ever encoutered
- kept Kal'Regar alive on Hestrum
- allowed Vetor to return to flottila with Tali on Freedom's Progres

Here is the query:

1) Do you think that ME3 will make it possible for Quarian to win the war with Geth and still survive the Reaper invasion, or is it really a call between cooperation of both Quarian and Geth. and extincion of both species should they choose war .

2) Do you think that all the small choices matter after all, or it will be all irrevelant as only the initial choise to side with war or not would make impact on the outcome. I personaly dont have much hope they will make an effort to somewhat affect the war outcome based on all many factors (if at all the decisions from ME3 I think would take priority). I will be happy if they would make it like:
- war + sided with Tali - Quarian win
- war + parsuade in Tali vs Legion argue - both species gain nothing and are on the verge of extinction
- war + side with Legion - Geth win
- not make Legion loyalty quest - same as persuade option

Thought it would be nice to see more possible outcomes- like option between narrow victory and decisive one. Still even as meny option as listed above is unlikely, Hell I'm not even sure if the Quarain Geth war will be a part of ME3. But you'r free to speak your mind

[pacer90]

I'm going for sheer numbers in all my situations.



- Rachni on my side

- Council + Destiny ascension alive

- All colonists alive (probably 0 effect long term)

- Data from Genophage cure kept in Mordin's hands. (Krogan shock troops)

- Wrex is head of Krogan should I use cure, he's cultivating more anyway and has a more stable situation

- Geth are re-written to accept Legion's Geth

- Quarians are NOT going to war.

- Other sitatuations will be added as I remember them.

[2342]

Personally I don't think Shepard's suggestion to the admiralty board will make a difference in ME3. What I do think is that the quarians will try to reprogram the geth and some how the final decision will fall on Shepard. Paragon option help geth and quarians to resolve their issues and work together or a renegade option were you help the quarians reprogram the geth. Either way Shepard still gets geth/quarian aid in ME3

[StarcloudSWG]

I think, in ME 3, there'll be four possible outcomes.

Geth and Quarians cooperating. (best overall)
Geth and Quarian war remains unresolved, pick one to ally with.
Geth wipe out the Quarians. (if the Quarians go to war without anti-geth warfare programs.)
Both Geth and Quarians end up incapable of helping you because they've mutually destroyed themselves. (If they go to war *with* anti-geth programs)

[evengill]

I wonder if not some of the actions and choices you make may ultimately lead to Cerberus gaining control of the Geth => Nasty Human Supremacy Empire at the end of ME3;)?

[pharos_gryphon]

pacer90 wrote...

I'm going for sheer numbers in all my situations.

- Rachni on my side
- Council + Destiny ascension alive
- All colonists alive (probably 0 effect long term)
- Data from Genophage cure kept in Mordin's hands. (Krogan shock troops)
- Wrex is head of Krogan should I use cure, he's cultivating more anyway and has a more stable situation
- Geth are re-written to accept Legion's Geth
- Quarians are NOT going to war.
- Other sitatuations will be added as I remember them.

Wait, it's possible to save ALL the colonists from Horizon?  I thought regardless of actions taken, Lilith and those captured die no matter what... or was this in reference to Feros in ME1?

Modifié par pharos_gryphon, 24 septembre 2010 - 09:01 .

[DanielJr]

I'm thinking it's the colonists from Feros. Also, I agree with pacer90 and I'll add this: it's not just numbers, the reapers never faced a unified galaxy before.

[Schattenkeil]

I must admit I seem to have missed a lot when it comes to the Quarian side-quest. I talked to a few people, but not many, and I never really understood what the dispute was actually about. I went in, blasted my way free and gave the "heroic" speech for Tali, preventing both Tali from being cast out and her father reputation to be damaged.

I don't quite remember what actual decisions I made regarding the data... I think I told Tali to hold onto it at some point I later got a "thanks for the data" email. Which caused my eyebrow to raise a little, because I wondered "doesn't this compromise Tali's father?" At this point I wasn't aware that the geth were able and willing to communicate with organics, so, unlike the rachni queen, I considered them to be a thread to be eleminated, rather than people.

I was completely unaware of the political dispute over fighting the geth in the quarrians. Together with the decision to destroy the heretic geth that might put the geth into a relatively bad position. And even though I otherwise followed the heroic, peace, love and harmony line I can't quite regret that.

[DanielJr]

If you check out the Codex some point after talking with Legion, you'll see that there are a lot more Geth than the heretics out there. They go on saying that the "heretics" (more on this on the codex) constitute only a small percentage of total Geth in Geth space. Meaning there's a **** ton of potential AI shock troops out there.

[Kaiser Shepard]

I have destroyed pretty much every possible ally, save for possibly the geth and quarians. My path to victory may be a lonely one, but it is a just one.

[xIREDEEMEDIx]

I think it will be co-op with the Q's and G's

[MrnDvlDg161]

If that dumb Adm goes to war with the Geth, his face plate will be a trophy at the center helm of a Geth Ship.



In honesty... you know... some folks need to stop wanting to jam so much in to poor ME3. The amount of stuff people want, you'd need a Mass Effect 4, 5, and 6.



I should think it would be better to have a " The Geth Wars" DLC after ME3 in order to continue the game ( if you survive or the world/universe survives...however they do it).



Otherwise instead of Character missions, you'll have " Nation" missions in which you settle multiple wars across the galaxy. Fix the Geth/Quarian situation...race over to the Alliance and fix the Batarian/Pirate situation...from there you can hot foot to Omega and do some Crime Stopping...from Omega you then fight the Blue Suns, Eclipse, and the Blood pack...from there you rush to Wrex and help him fight the Krogan Civil war... speed towards some other place and insure the Arachani are in check -----juuuuuust in time for some corn flakes in the morning with Liara complaining about pregnancy.



Boy Shepard is one busy biatch.

[008Zulu]

pacer90 wrote...

I'm going for sheer numbers in all my situations.

- Rachni on my side
- Council + Destiny ascension alive
- All colonists alive (probably 0 effect long term)
- Data from Genophage cure kept in Mordin's hands. (Krogan shock troops)
- Wrex is head of Krogan should I use cure, he's cultivating more anyway and has a more stable situation
- Geth are re-written to accept Legion's Geth
- Quarians are NOT going to war.
- Other sitatuations will be added as I remember them.

I concur, numbers are a strategic advantage. Getting all this on a Paragon character is easy, as a Renegade it requires a little planning.

Perhaps by helping Legion's Geth, you will be able to have an entire Geth armada at you side when the Reapers show up. We have seen Geth cruisers, I have always wondered what a Geth Dreadnought looks like.

[JockBuster]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

I think, in ME 3, there'll be four possible outcomes.

Geth and Quarians cooperating. (best overall)
Geth and Quarian war remains unresolved, pick one to ally with.
Geth wipe out the Quarians. (if the Quarians go to war without anti-geth warfare programs.)
Both Geth and Quarians end up incapable of helping you because they've mutually destroyed themselves. (If they go to war *with* anti-geth programs)

General question:
Did you take Legion to Tali's Treason Trial?
If you did NOT, then you should do another play thru (sorry), just to see what happens, just do NOT be stupid about it. The Quarian reactions are REALLY interesting (go slow, do NOT rush thru it) take every LEFT side dialogue option, listen to what the 'off screen' characters are saying. DO NOT get Tali exiled! Keep BOTH Loyal, and guess what if you mess that up, YUP ya get to do the WHOLE mission all over again (or save just before returning to the courtroom).
Talk to Legion, there are SEVEN different dialogues with him (you have to do a mission then go back), listen carefully to what he says (turn ON subtitles).
Personally, I'm hoping for peace between the True Geth and the Quarians. The problem is getting the Quarians to admit that they made a mistake starting the war in the first place (Morning War); ie, Admiral Xen is wrong and an idiot, AND to stop attacking the Geth.
The Heritics are only 5% of ALL the Geth, so destroying them is not a huge thing ... listen carefully to Legion as you progress thru the station. BW has given LOTS of clues as to the correct decision for Shepard to do. What you DO with that information is up to you.

[pacer90]

pharos_gryphon wrote...

pacer90 wrote...

I'm going for sheer numbers in all my situations.

- Rachni on my side
- Council + Destiny ascension alive
- All colonists alive (probably 0 effect long term)
- Data from Genophage cure kept in Mordin's hands. (Krogan shock troops)
- Wrex is head of Krogan should I use cure, he's cultivating more anyway and has a more stable situation
- Geth are re-written to accept Legion's Geth
- Quarians are NOT going to war.
- Other sitatuations will be added as I remember them.

Wait, it's possible to save ALL the colonists from Horizon?  I thought regardless of actions taken, Lilith and those captured die no matter what... or was this in reference to Feros in ME1?

Feros. Also I never play paragon/renegade... I simply pick which ones I would pick in real life. It ends up being quite renegade though....

[Sajuro]

Geth/Quarian war= fun times for everyone, I'll get the popcorn