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[Dasher10]

The claymore is more powerful, the GPS has more range, the Scemitar is faster and the Eviserator beats it in damage and range. Still, does anybody use this thing? I give the Scimitar to Jacob since he's a close range tank who should use a quick weapon, Grunt gets the Claymore due to it's sheer power, Jack gets the Eviscerator since it mixes range with power and Tali gets the GPS as she's most effective at a distance. Does ANYBODY still find a use for the Katana?

[Mister Mida]

I've used it on one playthrough, even when I had the eviscerator. But it was only to see how it handled compared to the Eviscerator. Never used the Scimitar though.

[lazuli]

I still use the Katana, though it's probably because I haven't forced myself to learn how to use the Eviscerator effectively yet. Its spread takes some getting used to. The Katana is more forgiving in that regard (at point blank).

[Kaiser Shepard]

I still do, love that perfect sound it makes.



I'm thinking of switching over to the GPS, though. Having a Shepardbuster is pretty awesome as well.

[PsyrenY]

The GPS IS the Katana, with better range and a charge option. So yeah.

[Tony Gunslinger]

I use it purely for cosmetic reasons. It's the best-looking shotgun besides the Claymore. Style-wise the GPS goes better on Tali.

[Felene]

Jacob can tank?! That's news. Grunt is more tank-like.

Modifié par Felene, 25 septembre 2010 - 01:33 .

[EffectedByTheMasses]

Felene wrote...

Jacob can tank?! That's news. Grunt is more tank-like.

If you actually keep barrier on him and use him like grunt, yes he can. It's actually pretty decent.

I use the Katana when playing cqc due to no dlc. I actually quite like it.

[Water Dumple]

Depending on how you play Vanguard, the Katana can work. Unfortunately, it's typically too "in-between" to fit a style that you can plan for. If you need to charge into the middle of a bunch of weak enemies and down them quickly, the Scimitar is better. Against a single tough target, the Claymore is better. On a few generally competent enemies, the Eviscerator is better. And for mid-range, the GPS is better. Because it's much easier to work toward an extreme rather than a generalist build, on both squadmates and Shepard, almost anything can work better than the Katana (so long as you actually have more than one alternative, in which case it might beat one of the others in some situation).

Modifié par Water Dumple, 25 septembre 2010 - 02:00 .

[OniGanon]

The Katana is a great shotgun and was my personal favourite, but the GPS is the Katana + charge shot + 20m extra range + a little extra damage. The only thing the Katana has over the GPS is one shot freeze ability and a beefier sound effect.

[EffectedByTheMasses]

For that matter, anyone use the Mantis, shuriken and predator?

[OniGanon]

I use the Predator, yes.

[Blastback]

I sometimes do for novelty value. I just like playing with diffrenent weapons, which is probably why I play as a Soilder so much.

[Fiery Phoenix]

The Katana is definitely one of the better shotguns, in my opinion. It has a large ammo capacity (for a shotgun), powerful, easy to use and works for tanking. I use it quite often, along with the Scimitar. Squadmates are good with it, too.

[JaegerBane]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

The Katana is definitely one of the better shotguns, in my opinion. It has a large ammo capacity (for a shotgun), powerful, easy to use and works for tanking. I use it quite often, along with the Scimitar. Squadmates are good with it, too.

I'm surprised to see someone voting for the Katana on the basis of ammo capacity. It's not like it's enough to make that much difference and all it's other characteristics are utterly meh.

[OniGanon]

The Katana has enough firepower to kill most enemies in two shots, enough speed and stopping power to actually pull off those two shots, and enough ammo per clip that missing a shot isn't a game over like it can be with the Evi or Claymore. It also freezes enemies in one shot when loaded with Cryo Ammo, which makes it very easy to take out multiple enemies with it and also stretches its ammo (because you can just melee the frozen statues to death instead of shooting twice).



It's an excellent balance between power, speed, utility and room for error. It's not the strongest in any attribute, but it's good in all of them and has no weakness, and that in itself is a strength. The Katana is a brilliant gun.



But that same balance of speed, power and ammo per clip was given to the GPS.

[SmokeyNinjas]

OniGanon wrote...

the GPS is the Katana + charge shot + 20m extra range + a little extra damage. The only thing the Katana has over the GPS is one shot freeze ability

This.
I always felt the Katana was the most fluid of the shotguns for chaining shots & melees but the GPS totally replaces the Katana by having much better versatility.

[JaegerBane]

OniGanon wrote...
It's an excellent balance between power, speed, utility and room for error. It's not the strongest in any attribute, but it's good in all of them and has no weakness, and that in itself is a strength. The Katana is a brilliant gun.

No weaknesses? I think that's being a little generous. Like all the base game shotguns, it has a very low effective range, but unlike the other two, which have a significant advantage to offset it (rapid rate of fire or some of the highest spike damage in the game) it has nothing on top of this.

There are very few situations where the Katana can outperform the Evis, for instance. Certainly not enough to make up for the fact that the Katana has to be used exclusively at short range.

[brfritos]

EffectedByTheMasses wrote...

For that matter, anyone use the Mantis, shuriken and predator?

Depending on the mission yes, in Tuchanka the Mantis is quite usefull.

The Shuriken the faster you got rid of it, the better.

[brfritos]

double post, sorry

Modifié par brfritos, 25 septembre 2010 - 04:53 .

[PsyrenY]

EffectedByTheMasses wrote...

If you actually keep barrier on him and use him like grunt, yes he can. It's actually pretty decent.

I use the Katana when playing cqc due to no dlc. I actually quite like it.

I tried Jacob on Grunt's loyalty (Insanity of course) with max Barrier, Pull and Passive. (Grunt brought the fire ammo.)
Even with Heavy Barrier up, the Varren minced him repeatedly. Grunt did a better job, and he didn't even have Fort yet!
After my fourth use of medigel I said screw it and benched him for Mordin; if I was going to bring someone squishy I at least wanted that person to have Incinerate. Mordin only died once, and once we got to the Klixen he didn't die at all.

Jacob's problem is that he has the shotgun AI but just isn't durable enough to make it worthwhile. If I micromanaged him he'd do better, but I don't have time to micromanage two tanks and keep my own dps up. Not to mention, he will always pick Barrier over Pull once you get it., and get summarily raped during its long cooldown.

[PsyrenY]

brfritos wrote...

The Shuriken the faster you got rid of it, the better.

The Shuriken is wonderful on squadmates. Short bursts keep them in cover and it does almost as much damage as the Tempest. They land almost every shot in the burst with their AI accuracy.

[OniGanon]

All the other base shotguns come with additional penalties. The Scimitar is fast, but damage is a bit on the light side and best used as a defense stripper for squadmate biotics. The Eviscerator is powerful, but it's slow, its damage/ammo per clip is low, and god help you if you miss a shot. The Katana has no additional drawback.



The Katana and Eviscerator perform pretty similarly. You talk as if there is a massive damage difference here. The Katana does roughly 75% the damage of the Evi per shot, y'know.

[brfritos]

Optimystic_X wrote...

brfritos wrote...

The Shuriken the faster you got rid of it, the better.

The Shuriken is wonderful on squadmates. Short bursts keep them in cover and it does almost as much damage as the Tempest. They land almost every shot in the burst with their AI accuracy.

Oh, I was talking for you to use, not your squad.
And the base damage of the Shuriken is actually higher than the Tempest.

But I agree with you, I was playing on Insanity and haven't yet made Tali's recruitment mission.
I was a Sentinel and doing the Collector Ship mission, Miranda performance was actually better than when equipped with the Tempest.

[godlike13]

Maybe it had a place befor, but i think now the GPS makes it pretty obsolete.