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[revan11exile]

 I have a Dwarf Noble how romanced Leliana and in the end it seems that King Harrowmont is sick and he named my Dwarf Noble next in line to rule so i wanted to know is it possible for my Warden too rule with Leliana at his side?(DO THEY EVEN HAVE QUEENS IN ORZAMMAR)

[ejoslin]

They have queens in Orzammar (Dwarf Noble Female has just about every opportunity as the Dwarf Noble Male, aside from having an heir of course), but there is nothing anywhere that indicates you actually take over the rule (despite being made Harrowmont's heir), much less have Leliana beside you as your queen. The assembly would have to approve that, and I have my doubts that would happen.

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 septembre 2010 - 10:53 .

[Sarah1281]

No. Just...no. They're not even cool with nobles marrying non-nobles much less humans.

[Thrubeingcool13]

Harrowmont only names you heir to House Aeducan, not necessarily his throne. And there is absolutely no way that the Assembly would tolerate a human having politcal authority in Orzammar.

[Sabariel]

Just pull a Bhelen and get rid of the Assembly then do what you want

[Thrubeingcool13]

Sabariel wrote...

Just pull a Bhelen and get rid of the Assembly then do what you want

...And then get assassinated! Perfect plan.

[Herr Uhl]

Thrubeingcool13 wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

Just pull a Bhelen and get rid of the Assembly then do what you want

...And then get assassinated! Perfect plan.

It would solve all of your problems.

[Sarah1281]

Sabariel wrote...

Just pull a Bhelen and get rid of the Assembly then do what you want

Bhelen getting rid of the Assembly was following a legal precedent (it was done during the last Blight) and simply doing that won't stop rebellions and assassination attempts if you try something so stupid as to put a non-dwarf on the Orzammar throne.

[RavenousBear]

Not going to happen anytime soon. Orzammar, especially the noble caste, are stuck on traditional values that a human Queen would cause an immediate uproar. There would be numerous assassin attempts on the ruling couple and they cannot stay isolated in the Royal Palace forever. Unless you and Leliana are immortal, you would not last long at all as rulers of Orzammar.

[revan11exile]

Caak7i wrote...

Not going to happen anytime soon. Orzammar, especially the noble caste, are stuck on traditional values that a human Queen would cause an immediate uproar. There would be numerous assassin attempts on the ruling couple and they cannot stay isolated in the Royal Palace forever. Unless you and Leliana are immortal, you would not last long at all as rulers of Orzammar.

 Dont forget Leliana is an assassin herself:devil:

[Viva la France]

start a civil war and ask for emergency powers. thats how you take power.

[Sarah1281]

revan11exile wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

Not going to happen anytime soon. Orzammar, especially the noble caste, are stuck on traditional values that a human Queen would cause an immediate uproar. There would be numerous assassin attempts on the ruling couple and they cannot stay isolated in the Royal Palace forever. Unless you and Leliana are immortal, you would not last long at all as rulers of Orzammar.

 Dont forget Leliana is an assassin herself:devil:

Don't forget that she wants out of that life and is just one girl.

start a civil war and ask for emergency powers. thats how you take power.

That's still not going to make anyone put up with making Leliana Queen. I think she'd be miserable as Queen of Orzammar even if she would be allowed (which she wouldn't). She wants something more honest than the political games that the Orlesians play and Orzammar nobles do the same thing. Besides, she'd be the only human surrounded by people of a different species and that wouldn't be much fun.

[RavenousBear]

revan11exile wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

Not going to happen anytime soon. Orzammar, especially the noble caste, are stuck on traditional values that a human Queen would cause an immediate uproar. There would be numerous assassin attempts on the ruling couple and they cannot stay isolated in the Royal Palace forever. Unless you and Leliana are immortal, you would not last long at all as rulers of Orzammar.

 Dont forget Leliana is an assassin herself:devil:

Orzammar is a whole different ballpark than the surface. Her experience could help you foil some assassination attempts but she cannot stop them all. Especially in a culture where backstabbing is the norm amongst the nobles.

[revan11exile]

Caak7i wrote...

revan11exile wrote...

Caak7i wrote...

Not going to happen anytime soon. Orzammar, especially the noble caste, are stuck on traditional values that a human Queen would cause an immediate uproar. There would be numerous assassin attempts on the ruling couple and they cannot stay isolated in the Royal Palace forever. Unless you and Leliana are immortal, you would not last long at all as rulers of Orzammar.

 Dont forget Leliana is an assassin herself:devil:

Orzammar is a whole different ballpark than the surface. Her experience could help you foil some assassination attempts but she cannot stop them all. Especially in a culture where backstabbing is the norm amongst the nobles.

oh damn good point Caak7i:crying:

[Sabariel]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

Just pull a Bhelen and get rid of the Assembly then do what you want

Bhelen getting rid of the Assembly was following a legal precedent (it was done during the last Blight) and simply doing that won't stop rebellions and assassination attempts if you try something so stupid as to put a non-dwarf on the Orzammar throne.

Shhh. Don't kill the dream.

[jsachun]

Leli wouldn't marry a dwarf anyway.

[revan11exile]

jsachun wrote...

Leli wouldn't marry a dwarf anyway.

Why not 

[Giggles_Manically]

revan11exile wrote...

jsachun wrote...

Leli wouldn't marry a dwarf anyway.

Why not 

Because:

[yo bro]

yo Lels would make a better queen then Anora

[Sarah1281]

yo bro wrote...

yo Lels would make a better queen then Anora

Since when was Anora plotting to assume the throne of Orzammar? 

[yo bro]

just saying Lel would make a good queen for either my human or dwarf characters, she would make a great advisor to a king. Anora betrayed me twice, so thats a good start to a marriage. Why I have Lels on the side. Besides Bhelen found a way to dissolve the assembly in Orzammer. my Dwarf could find a way.

[Sarah1281]

yo bro wrote...

just saying Lel would make a good queen for either my human or dwarf characters, she would make a great advisor to a king. Anora betrayed me twice, so thats a good start to a marriage. Why I have Lels on the side. Besides Bhelen found a way to dissolve the assembly in Orzammer. my Dwarf could find a way.

Bhelen followed a legal precedent for dissolving the Assembly. Your character would just get themselves and Leliana assassinated and have an open revolt on your hands if you tried to pull **** like putting Leliana on the throne. She's the wrong species for Orzammar and they would not stand for it. Please not that Bhelen never tries something that obviously doomed to fail and there is enough resistance to just the idea of a noble marrying someone of a lesser caste never mind a human.

[Sarah1281]

Why do people think 'King' translates to 'can do whatever you want and nobody can stop you'? Isn't that what Loghain tried with his regency? Didn't work.

[Thrubeingcool13]

They don't understand the whole "actions have consequences" thing.

[yo bro]

No, I just thin Leliana would make a good advisor for a king