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[PWENER]

DPSSOC wrote...

For those loyal to the Council do you mind if I ask why? What have they done to earn your loyalty?

I doubt they themselves know how to answear that honestly. Unless they start saying stuff about humanity needing to integrate itself into alien culture and all that nonsense. I disagree and that excuse is overly used and does not provide a valid defensive point in they're "Im loyal to the council" posts.

Really? They're loyal to Councilor Velarn (Turian councilor)? That's weak.

[Mariah5]

DPSSOC wrote...

My loyalties are divided. Cerberus has my loyalty because they brought me back to life (big one), gave me equipment, a ship, a crew, as well as funding and intel to defeat a threat to humanity. The Alliance however gave me my training, my reputation, and ultimately my Spectre status and they deserve my loyalty for that.

I guess in the grand scheme I'm loyal to humanity, and both sides that claim to speak for them.

For those loyal to the Council do you mind if I ask why? What have they done to earn your loyalty?

The Council has my loyalty because while Cerberus and the Alliance only think of humanity, the Council represents unity between all species. As a SPECTRE it is Shep's job to protect everyone.

[PWENER]

Mariah5 wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...

My loyalties are divided. Cerberus has my loyalty because they brought me back to life (big one), gave me equipment, a ship, a crew, as well as funding and intel to defeat a threat to humanity. The Alliance however gave me my training, my reputation, and ultimately my Spectre status and they deserve my loyalty for that.

I guess in the grand scheme I'm loyal to humanity, and both sides that claim to speak for them.

For those loyal to the Council do you mind if I ask why? What have they done to earn your loyalty?

The Council has my loyalty because while Cerberus and the Alliance only think of humanity, the Council represents unity between all species. As a SPECTRE it is Shep's job to protect everyone.

mine isn't a Spectre anymore (always declines the offer from Anderson). His Cerberus. I'll do wathever I can to put Humanity and Cerberus on top. We're the only ones doing anything to stop the reapers after all.

Modifié par PWENER, 25 septembre 2010 - 09:30 .

[Mariah5]

And that, PWENER, is where you and I differ. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that you tend to play pure Renegade.

[AdamNW]

Can I make my own corrupt organization?

[Mariah5]

AdamNW wrote...

Can I make my own corrupt organization?

Maybe if you get enough people to petition for the option in ME3. You'll have to do it soon though, while they're still in the planning stages.

[PWENER]

Mariah5 wrote...

And that, PWENER, is where you and I differ. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that you tend to play pure Renegade.

Let's see...

1) Saved Rachni queen

2) Saved Wrex in Virmire

3) Left **** **** die in Virmire (Ash)

4) Saved Feros colonists (all 30 0f them)

5) Saved drogged scientists in ME1 (all of them)

6) Did not tell Quarians of Geth research

7) Kept Genophage cure

8) Saved Legion

9) Rewrited Geth Heretics

10) Kept Collector base

11) Killed Council in ME1

12) *Used ME1 glitch to get the human exclusive council

Im not pure Renegade. Im a pure Paragade (look at the simbol in my sig). I'll be the first and only renegade Shepard to win this war and still put humanity on top alongside Cerberus.

[AdamNW]

PWENER I know you're trying to make a point and all but Rewrited isn't a word.

Also, Ashley dying isn't in any way paragon or renegade.  It's just... there.

Modifié par AdamNW, 25 septembre 2010 - 09:41 .

[PWENER]

AdamNW wrote...

PWENER I know you're trying to make a point and all but Rewrited isn't a word.

Also, Ashley dying isn't in any way paragon.

You sure???

I also think killing Ash is Paragon. I hated her racism (it was racism, don't deny it).

EDIT: looked it up and it is a word.

Modifié par PWENER, 25 septembre 2010 - 09:44 .

[InHarmsWay]

I'm done with Cerberus, the Council and the Alliance. I'm using the Shadow Broker's networks to build my own army and to basically blackmail the Council into falling in line.

[Mariah5]

I stand corrected. It's rare to see a Cerberus supporter who isn't pure renegade. It's a pleasent surprise. I'm used to finding other paragrades, but I don't think I've heard of a playstyle like yours before. Although I don't agree with all of your choices, they would make for an intresting playthrough.



And I also thought Ashley dying was the paragon choice between the two (unless you romanced her).

[Dean_the_Young]

Mariah5 wrote...

I stand corrected. It's rare to see a Cerberus supporter who isn't pure renegade. It's a pleasent surprise. I'm used to finding other paragrades, but I don't think I've heard of a playstyle like yours before. Although I don't agree with all of your choices, they would make for an intresting playthrough.

And I also thought Ashley dying was the paragon choice between the two (unless you romanced her).

Well, if that's what it counts to be a paragade, then I'm one two.

More of a Renagon, really, but hey.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

I think they're both liabilities to Shepard. 

The Council for what they think they know (but don't)
and Cerberus for what they do know.

For both it's a question of what they'll do with it.  
In the end I'm loyal to the galaxy but the human race would be the last species I'd choose to go extinct.  I favor the council as long as humanity is in the clear.  Haven't really seen that much action from the Alliance itself.

I'm a full Paragon but I do have just short of 1 bar's worth of renegade.  I kept the base, don't remember if I kept the Cerberus evidence though... not that I'd need it since they're already an enemy of the Alliance.  Don't need any evidence to go after them for the Council.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 25 septembre 2010 - 10:26 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

Mariah5 wrote...

And I also thought Ashley dying was the paragon choice between the two (unless you romanced her).

I gotta ask..why is Ashley's death more Paragon'y than Kaidans????

[DPSSOC]

Mariah5 wrote...
The Council has my loyalty because while Cerberus and the Alliance only think of humanity, the Council represents unity between all species. As a SPECTRE it is Shep's job to protect everyone.

Fair enough I can understand your position I guess I was thinking more the Council in terms of those 3 pricks who've rocketed up my hit-list fast enough to make Speedy Gonzales seem slow not the greater organization of which they are the head.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

I think Kaiden's death is more Paragon. What kinda man would really let a woman die?

[Jagri]

Alliance and the Council. I see Shepard as one to keep there oaths no matter how hard the path may be ahead of him/her. Not to simply quit and go the easy road with Cerberus.

Modifié par Jagri, 25 septembre 2010 - 10:57 .

[Xilizhra]

Cerberus is obviously evil, and I don't trust the Alliance; I think their ties with Cerberus go too deep for comfort. I'll support the Alliance if Cerberus can be excised from it, but my loyalty lies first to galactic life as a whole, second to the Council.

[AntiChri5]

Amazing how many people factor Cerberus resurrecting Shepard into this.

They were not doing you a favour. Who knew being used was so fun?

Besides, i havent seen enough evidence of Cerberus's competence to follow TIM's leadership in anything.

Besides which, after the expense of the Lazarus Cell and losses during Retribution i dont see how Cerberus has a way to contribute in any meaningful way against the Reapers.



Oh, and Ashley isnt rascist.

[PWENER]

Man, there's going to be a lot unhappy people in the forums if Shepard ends up on "his own side".



It wouldn't make sense...



Who gives his crew money, fuel, food, weapons, upgrades, resources?I know you get all that stuff in game, but think about it. Without Cerberus's funding, you can't get ANY of that stuff.



Hacking wall safes only gets you so far.



Back on topic; thanks for the cerberus support. I just think that Cerberus isn't given the credit they deserve. I want to join them because they do what they need to do. With a threat this big, I think anything goes.



People wouldn't play favorites or take such risks (i.e. not taking collector base) if they were truly Shepard.



This is the future of all life that exists and will exists. The Reapers are the most dangerous threat that has ever existed and it doesn't matter what it takes, I am prepared to work with terrorist. I will sacrifice anything if it means killing a single Reaper. I sometimes wonder if I in real life would sacrifice my life for the greater good, and the answear is always yes. If it means Shepard's death, I swear that the Reapers will fall. The reapers won't get another cycle. I'll teach them why Humanity has survived the last thousands of years. Humanity is the only race that is still fresh and daring.



We will destroy the reapers fellow forumites and i will be the first one to make a celebration thread once I finish ME3.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Cerberus as an organization has a dark reputation.. but a lot of people miss that TIM can do very little about actions that Cerberus takes. He forms groups and sets them loose on an objective. HOW that objective is done is always left up to the groups themselves.

While I wouldn't say TIM is innocent, I think a lot of dark deeds may be blamed on him that wasn't his fault.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 25 septembre 2010 - 11:29 .

[Xilizhra]

This is the future of all life that exists and will exists. The Reapers are the most dangerous threat that has ever existed and it doesn't matter what it takes, I am prepared to work with terrorist. I will sacrifice anything if it means killing a single Reaper. I sometimes wonder if I in real life would sacrifice my life for the greater good, and the answear is always yes. If it means Shepard's death, I swear that the Reapers will fall. The reapers won't get another cycle. I'll teach them why Humanity has survived the last thousands of years. Humanity is the only race that is still fresh and daring.

We only survived because we bumped into a mass relay, otherwise we probably would have gone the way of the drell.

[AntiChri5]

Cerberus as an organization has a dark reputation.. but a lot of people miss that TIM can do very little about actions that Cerberus takes. He forms groups and sets them loose on an objective. HOW that objective is done is always left up to the groups themselves.



While I wouldn't say TIM is innocent, I think a lot of dark deeds may be blamed on him that wasn't his fault.

And why do you think he does?



So that he can pressure them into doing whatever it takes, and then shrug it off as not hus responsibility.

[PWENER]

Bumbed into a Mass Relay? Sure, but that's not relevant to my point.