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Mindlessidiots

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On the Dragon Age wiki, they say the ideal of what quests to do. The thing is, I'm confused by what they mean by I could ether do Orazamar or Denerim in whatever order and go on to the Landsmet. I thought Denerim was the landsmet quest, or do they mean just missions besides the landsmet in Denerim?

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ejoslin

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There is one of the main quests that requires you to go to Denerim first, and there are a lot of side missions to do there.

As far as ideal? Keep in mind that the Wiki not infallible (at all) and this is just someone's opinion. I suppose the "ideal" order would go something like this:

Mage Tower
Redcliffe
Bracillian Forest
Denerim
Orzammar
Haven

Really, though, I always go first to the one that makes the most sense for the Origin. For instance, the dwarf noble female (romanced Gorim in the beginning) went to Denerim to find him. Now she's in Orzammar (which is far more fun at lower levels). Where she'll go after this? I'm not sure. Probably Haven, then then she may finally listen to Alistair and go to Redcliffe; then again, she may seek out the Dalish first. Denerim then Orzammar were what were most important to her. She'll probably put off the mage tower because, well, she's a dwarf.

Edit: Obviously, a Dalish seeks out the Dalish first.  A city elf runs back to Denerim.  A human noble may go to Redcliffe or may go to Denerim as either makes sense.  A dwarf commoner, Orzammar first, no question.  A mage of course goes to the circle once she hears about the demons and abominations running loose.

Then again, everyone plays their own way.  Don't worry so much about "ideals."  The levels do scale and do have caps (in both directions) but the combat is not so difficult that you won't be able to complete a level at lower levels.

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 septembre 2010 - 05:47 .


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Zjarcal

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So long as you don't do Orzammar right after Lothering (although if you're up for a challenge, it's worth it), pretty much any order is feasible. The Wiki states that order due to the level scaling of areas, which goes like this:



Redcliffe Level 6+

Circle Tower Level 6+

Brecilian Forest Level 7+

Haven Level 8+

Orzammar Level 10+

Denerim Level 10+



So their reasoning for that order is to keep the difficulty curve as smooth as possible.



About the origin influencing your order, I'd say it does but there are plenty of reasons why a character wouldn't want to do their "origin friendly quest" right away. I know my mage didn't want to return to the tower that soon.

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I do Redcliffe first, as Alistair recommends it. Also, from an army building perspective, since they all assemble there, it's good to secure that location first.

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MageTarot

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Zjarcal wrote...

So long as you don't do Orzammar right after Lothering (although if you're up for a challenge, it's worth it), pretty much any order is feasible. The Wiki states that order due to the level scaling of areas, which goes like this:

Redcliffe Level 6+
Circle Tower Level 6+
Brecilian Forest Level 7+
Haven Level 8+
Orzammar Level 10+
Denerim Level 10+

So their reasoning for that order is to keep the difficulty curve as smooth as possible.

About the origin influencing your order, I'd say it does but there are plenty of reasons why a character wouldn't want to do their "origin friendly quest" right away. I know my mage didn't want to return to the tower that soon.


Depending on if you need a healing mage right away, you may want to do Circle Tower first to get Wynne. If you plan on being a healing mage yourself (or give Morrigan healing spells) then head to Redcliffe. It all basically comes down to go in the order of what you consider most important to your group. Posted Image

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RavenousBear

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I normally do the Circle Tower first as my Wardens hear that the Templars are about to invoke the Right of Annulment from Ser Bryant. So far I have not played a mage so they are fascinated about encountering demons.



Many people go to Redcliffe first as Alistair suggests Arl Eamon's aid. There is no penalty I am aware of for not doing the treaty quests in a certain order, so do what interests you or what your character would do.

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That is why level scaling is so epic in terms of a game of this type. The level scaling allows the player the choice as to where they want to go first with no penalties because your under leveled for that area. The ability of the player to go where thier origins or feelings take them makes each game play different even if the diferences are only subtle. It just adds a perception of freedom and IMHO there can never be too much of that in a game.



Anyway do not worry about who says what should be done first, throw caution to the wind close your eyes stab a location and go for it. I have a respec mod that allows me to respec any character, so i could blow off the tower, respec Morrigan to heals and go anywhere, but as i find Morrigan annoying i usually cut her in Lotharin, so that unless i am a mage i need to get Wynne, so the tower is usually first. Sometimes i like to hunt up Haven before i hit Redcliffe for the first time, saving Redcliffe for dead least, heal the Arl and head right to Denerim, why yes Eamon while you slept i have been very busy, which is kind of cool to have the Urn collected before you even enter the castle.



Do what you want, in any order you want, and let no one tell you there is a correct order. Folks might tell you there is a correct order, and they are right for them, the correct order is what you feel like doing. The game has allowed you the freedom to do them in any order, it would be a shame to turn it into a linear experience.



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BrianMCat

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Info wise the first after Flemeth's Hut is the Ashes (entry bridge) and you also find in the Lothering chantry that Arl Eamon is ill, Ashes before Redcliffe gives fun conversation, although leve the Dragon till later

Redcliffe early means you (if mage) and Morrigan are not likely to have mass effect spells, Wynne can be helpful in this marathon,so I go Haven, Circle, Redcliffe

Honnleath and Soldier's Peak should be early, for Shale (Fun) and Starfang

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Thnscrispy

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I remember travelling to the forest first. The whole getting mobbed by walking trees and undead thing obliterated by potion supplies, and still managed to wipe my party plenty of times. It's probably just my lack of knowledge on how to deal with those threats, but I don't think it was a wise decision to travel there first anyway.

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Esther

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I found the easiest order:

1. Redcliff

2. Circle Tower

3. Brecilian Forest

4. Haven

5. Denerim

6. Orzammar

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Circle tower should be first. It's easier than the others and you get Fade bonus points.

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I'd agree with Circle Tower first. You get Wynne and you get a ton of  bonus stat points. The latter makes it much easier to qualify for gear/skills/etc. earlier, and spend your level based stat points much more efficently.

After that you can go any way you please, but personally (barring any RP considerations you may have) I'd go to Orzammar or the Stone Prisoner (if you have that DLC) next. For the simple reason of getting all your possible party members sooner rather than later. This will allow you the greatest flexibility in their development.

If you have the Warden's Keep DLC, you might also want to fit that in between those. The storage chest and goodies come in handy.

While there is certainly story motivation to do Redcliff first, I find the first part extremely tough if you do it too early. Also it works to your advantage if you've finished the Circle Tower before heading there. (avoiding spoilers)

Denerim is likely your next stop after Redcliff, for plot reasons. Theres also plenty of good sidequests there. You'll be visiting a second time later in the game.

Dalish can be saved for last or fit in earlier if it suits your character. If you are Elvish yourself, its a good early stop. Or if you simply want access to elven style gear earlier (like the sexy Dalish style leathers)

Another reason to shift priorities is to unlock certain classes earlier. If you'd like spoilers on that, I'd be happy to list them.

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All I can say is, Orzammar is last for me, every time. The city itself is great, but that "checkpoint" at the beginning robs me of my health poultices (bad strategy) and the boss after it all is ridiculous.

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The game is built so that the story unfolds best in the order it was intended to be played, in my opinion. Basically what Alistair says--Redcliffe which leads to the circle which leads to the urn quest. After that it doesn't matter, really, but they intend the Brecillian forest based on levels

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This is the order i always go:

1) Circle Tower: It is easy and you get both a powerful companion early (needed if you don´t like morrigan) and several bonus to stats. It also opens more choices to the next mission.

2) Redcliff: It is relatively hard in the early game, but if you do the mages plus some dlc you should be capable of defending redcliff without problems.

3) Brecilian forest: It is harder than redcliff, and it is a lot longer and consuming that the other ones.

4) Orzammar: Probably one of the hardest as well, i do this here so you can recruit one companion more early and i love taking him to the sacred ashes mission (his dialogue is very enlightening for knowing him).

5) Sacred ashes: If you count the optional boss it is the hardest of all the quests, also once you are done with this you can go to arl eamon and inmediately start the endgame.

I hated how when you cured arl eamon he said something like "all right now go finish recruiting your army", it broke the momentum for me, so i always leave this quest now for last.

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TheBlackBaron

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Question: why is Denerim always lumped in with the other five main quests in these lists?