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Mass Effect Character Survey 5.0 - Initial Results


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Jack ranks higher with girls than with boys.  Lots of things can be said about that, most of them pernicious generalizations, some of them insightful.  As has been mentioned in the Jack thread, some girls find it easy to relate to Jack.  I'll leave that there.

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I want Wrex and Liara back in my team dammit! I started the war with them and I wan't the end the war with them!

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Garrus is a beast.

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bobobo878 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I want Wrex and Liara back in my team dammit! I started the war with them and I wan't the end the war with them!

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Ridley is a badass like Wrex :wizard:

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I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.

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I'm male, love Miranda, can't stand tali an her romance(seriously, DON'T advertise the fact you're a virgin in the second convo if you don't want to look cheap...), am great buddies with Wrex, Legion, Mordin and Garrus, and am man-hugging Jacob even with my femSheps(weird, I know.) Which means I'm perfectly normal. Woot.



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yorkj86 wrote...

Jack ranks higher with girls than with boys.  Lots of things can be said about that, most of them pernicious generalizations, some of them insightful.  As has been mentioned in the Jack thread, some girls find it easy to relate to Jack.  I'll leave that there.


I'm pretty pleased that Samara, Tali, and Jack ranked so well among the female playerbase.

And it is interesting to see males prefer Jacob more than females.

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Bioware hashed Miranda character dev between Freedom's Progress and the Normandy...but they'll probably say something like 'she's following TIM's orders to be nice' or something like that.

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I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.

Nah most hate her because shes apparently a racist and a religious zealot.

I personally thought she was a well written character (although hated the how you couldn't be civil with her without a romance starting)

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GodWood wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.

Nah most hate her because shes apparently a racist and a religious zealot.
I personally thought she was a well written character (although hated the how you couldn't be civil with her without a romance starting)

How is she a zealot?  The only time she brought it up when I played, she made it clear that she'd keep her religion to herself.  If anyone in the cast is a zealot, it's Samara.
(I know you were paraphrasing what you've heard about her, but I'm still curious.)

Modifié par bobobo878, 26 septembre 2010 - 11:32 .


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bobobo878 wrote...

I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.


I think Ashley's reduced popularity has a lot to do with what's happened on Horizon, and the fact that she doesn't elicit the same sort of response that Kaidan does with female players. Ashley is blunt and overly independent. That is a sort of "turnoff" for many males.

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bobobo878 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.

Nah most hate her because shes apparently a racist and a religious zealot.
I personally thought she was a well written character (although hated the how you couldn't be civil with her without a romance starting)

How is she a zealot?  The only time she brought it up when I played, she made it clear that she'd keep her religion to herself.  If anyone in the cast is a zealot, it's Samara.
(I know you were paraphrasing, but I'm still curious.)

Hey man, I don't think shes a zealot.

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GodWood wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.

Nah most hate her because shes apparently a racist and a religious zealot.
I personally thought she was a well written character (although hated the how you couldn't be civil with her without a romance starting)

How is she a zealot?  The only time she brought it up when I played, she made it clear that she'd keep her religion to herself.  If anyone in the cast is a zealot, it's Samara.
(I know you were paraphrasing what you've heard about her, but I'm still curious.)

Hey man, I don't think shes a zealot.

Yeah, I know, I edited to make that clear.

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XX55XX wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.


I think Ashley's reduced popularity has a lot to do with what's happened on Horizon, and the fact that she doesn't elicit the same sort of response that Kaidan does with female players. Ashley is blunt and overly independent. That is a sort of "turnoff" for many males.


And that's why I love her.  Whether you agree with all Ashley's values and actions - or don't - she always feels like she's her own person.

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Wrex seems to be the only Mass Effect character (who hasn't been in two games or had any kind of DLC to expand his character) to rank that high.



Pretty impressive actually.

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Honestly, what puzzles me most at this point is the inconsistency between the female and male averages for Mordin. Everything else appears explainable... but in past surveys, there was little to no difference between the female and male averages for Mordin. This time, however, Mordin's average for males has actually fallen. Anyone care to theorize?


Maybe try adjusting for age and sex together?   My guess is that Mordin is more popular with the older age groups, and that in your sample, females are older than males.

I tried to look at your data, but I could only see the scores, not the age/sex categories, so couldn't test my suggestion :).

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ToGVita wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Honestly, what puzzles me most at this point is the inconsistency between the female and male averages for Mordin. Everything else appears explainable... but in past surveys, there was little to no difference between the female and male averages for Mordin. This time, however, Mordin's average for males has actually fallen. Anyone care to theorize?


Maybe try adjusting for age and sex together?   My guess is that Mordin is more popular with the older age groups, and that in your sample, females are older than males.

I tried to look at your data, but I could only see the scores, not the age/sex categories, so couldn't test my suggestion :).


I'll try age first, and then adjust for sex as necessary. But thanks for the suggestion!

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Wrex seems to be the only Mass Effect character (who hasn't been in two games or had any kind of DLC to expand his character) to rank that high.

Pretty impressive actually.


Wrex is the badass/anti-hero hybrid that everyone likes. Regardless of his past. That characterization alone doesn't require much extension or change of his character to achieve.

I like Wrex, but... I don't adore him or anything. He's just cool, you know?

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I noticed that Morinth scored pretty low. Is it because she lied about her victims feeling good before they die?

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XX55XX wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

I'm surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of other characters.


I think Ashley's reduced popularity has a lot to do with what's happened on Horizon, and the fact that she doesn't elicit the same sort of response that Kaidan does with female players. Ashley is blunt and overly independent. That is a sort of "turnoff" for many males.

Some want every character to bow down before them.
Not for this male. I love strong, independent female characters. Ash is my favorite character bioware has ever made. Horizion didn't make me mad at Ash. I was and I am mad at bioware at the lack of Ashley in ME2. I don't play ME2 anymore cause of that and some other reasons. I didn't participate in the survey. I don't do polls and surveys really. I think there are other Ash fans like me in that regard. I hardly post on the forums at all anymore. I prefer the groups.  I thought this comment needed a response from an Ash fan.

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Clearly Ashley and Kaidan are in the weakest position right now. They've got this this whole unresolved plot and Horizon thing hanging above their heads. So their position is this survey (as in any other survey or poll which takes place before they recieve some attention) can easily be ignored.



They will be flooded by all kinds of 'new fans' as soon as Bioware turns its attention to them, mark my words

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Clearly Ashley and Kaidan are in the weakest position right now. They've got this this whole unresolved plot and Horizon thing hanging above their heads. So their position is this survey (as in any other survey or poll which takes place before they recieve some attention) can easily be ignored.

They will be flooded by all kinds of 'new fans' as soon as Bioware turns its attention to them, mark my words


I agree. I will organize another survey if a VS DLC ever gets released.

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mashavasilec wrote...

Clearly Ashley and Kaidan are in the weakest position right now. They've got this this whole unresolved plot and Horizon thing hanging above their heads. So their position is this survey (as in any other survey or poll which takes place before they recieve some attention) can easily be ignored.

They will be flooded by all kinds of 'new fans' as soon as Bioware turns its attention to them, mark my words


Indeed.

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I still can't fathom the popularity of Legion.  For me he was always one of those characters like Kaiden or Jacob who I didn't really dislike; but who I never found particularly interesting.

I mean he gives you some interesting backstory on the Geth and his flashes of individuality are intriguing; but ultimately I found he comes off as a robot with little to no personality (as opposed to HK-47 or EDI who comes off as AIs with a surprising amount of personality).  Not that coming off as a robot with little to no personality is innapropriate for his character, it just isn't very engaging to me.

Could someone who's a fan of the character explain to me exactly what you find appealing about his character cause I just don't get it?