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[XX55XX]

implodinggoat wrote...

I still can't fathom the popularity of Legion.  For me he was always one of those characters like Kaiden or Jacob who I didn't really dislike; but who I never found particularly interesting.

I mean he gives you some interesting backstory on the Geth and his flashes of individuality are intriguing; but ultimately I found he comes off as a robot with little to no personality (as opposed to HK-47 or EDI who comes off as AIs with a surprising amount of personality).  Not that coming off as a robot with little to no personality is innapropriate for his character, it just isn't very engaging to me.

Could someone who's a fan of the character explain to me exactly what you find appealing about his character cause I just don't get it?

He does the robot when you idle near him on the AI core. And he does have some funny lines. Like Mordin, Legion is obviously there to provide comic relief for the player, and that is why he is popular.

[implodinggoat]

Estelindis wrote...

So Legion and Mordin are the most popular squadmates introduced in ME2 - Mordin even has the lowest standard deviation.  It's interesting to compare their consistent popularity to romanceable characters, who tend to be gain hordes of fans and detractors.  (Garrus, being universally awesome, is the natural exception to this rule.)

8.37 - Garrus
7.99 - Wrex
7.99 - Legion (7.985 vs. Wrex's 7.987)
7.89 - Mordin
7.61 - Liara
7.52 - Tali
7.30 - Kasumi
6.76 - Thane
6.73 - Samara
6.60 - Grunt
6.18 - Miranda
6.07 - Ashley
5.89 - Kaidan
5.81 - Zaeed
5.86 - Jack
4.30 - Jacob
3.32 - Morinth

Reactions:  Seems about like I'd expect for the most part.  Beyond that...

1:  I'm surprised Garrus took the top spot even though he is one of my favorite characters.
2:  I'm pleased Wrex's awesomeness has not been forgotten.
3:  I'm amazed Legion is so popular.  I always thought he was pretty damn dull and a poor man's HK-47.
4:  I'm pleased to see that opinions of Liara have improved since she's one of my favorites.
5:  I'm surprised Samara didn't fare better.
6:  I'm shocked that Miranda fell as low as she did.  Granted every time she defended Cerberus I wanted to puke and she definitely was asking for a bullet to the head when I first met her; but she really grew on me over the course of the game.

[Throw_this_away]

Interesting that the aliens tend to dominate overall. Poor morinth should not really be there as she has no real content.



It is also interesting to see how deviant I am in my opinions. Miranda and zaieed are tops for me. As is zaieed. Garrus is mid pack and mordin is neR my bottom.

[implodinggoat]

XX55XX wrote...

implodinggoat wrote...

I still can't fathom the popularity of Legion.  For me he was always one of those characters like Kaiden or Jacob who I didn't really dislike; but who I never found particularly interesting.

I mean he gives you some interesting backstory on the Geth and his flashes of individuality are intriguing; but ultimately I found he comes off as a robot with little to no personality (as opposed to HK-47 or EDI who comes off as AIs with a surprising amount of personality).  Not that coming off as a robot with little to no personality is innapropriate for his character, it just isn't very engaging to me.

Could someone who's a fan of the character explain to me exactly what you find appealing about his character cause I just don't get it?

He does the robot when you idle near him on the AI core. And he does have some funny lines. Like Mordin, Legion is obviously there to provide comic relief for the player, and that is why he is popular.

I get the appeal of a little comedy (which I felt ME2 was in short supply of).   I'm just surprised that a character introduced so late in the game could beat out Mordin who was introduced at the start of the game and who I found to be a lot funnier as well as the most ethically intriguing character in the game.  Aside from that Grunt has a lot of great comedic moments; but he didn't fare nearly as well as Legion even though he's brought in early on in the game.

mrsph wrote...

Legion is cool and interesting, and since you don't learn that much about him, it just makes him even more interesting.

This actually kind of makes sense to me in that I think a lot of the appeal of Legion is simply that people find the mysterious aspect of the character appealing and perceive the unexplained aspects of the character to be interesting even though most of your interactions with him aren't particularly memorable.

Its extrapolation.  If you like the concept of the character then you extrapolate the mysterious aspects of his character into intrigue while I extrapolated the mysterious aspects of Legions character as reasons not to trust it.

[implodinggoat]

jlb524 wrote...

I'm glad to see Wrex was so popular, given that his fanbase is pretty quite. Where are all the Wrex fans???

Wrex is my favorite character hands down.  I think a lot of Wrex fans just don't make much noise at this point because we've kind of accepted that he's not going to be on our squad in ME3.

I would dance for joy if Wrex was back on the squad in ME3; but with the way the story has taken him (potential death on Virmire or if he survived a very important obligation on Tuchanka) I've petty much accepted the sad truth that Wrex has a snowball's chance in hell of coming back to my team for ME3.

So while a lot of character fans have a major presensce on the forums to support their character's inclusion in ME3, I think Wrex fans are quiet simply because we feel that we've already lost the battle.

[Merlin 47]

XX55XX wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

I'm
surprised Ashley didn't do better. While I was upset when she shot Wrex
on my first playthrough, she seemed to have more depth than a lot of
other characters.

I think Ashley's reduced popularity has
a lot to do with what's happened on Horizon, and the fact that she
doesn't elicit the same sort of response that Kaidan does with female
players. Ashley is blunt and overly independent. That is a sort of
"turnoff" for many males.

I'll choose Ash over Kaiden on Virmire every time.  It's not that she's blunt and overly independent; I actually find that refreshing in an Alliance soldier, like Ash.  No....I attribute this more to the writing, or, how she was portrayed on Horizon.  Garrus, Tali, Liara and Wrex (if he lives) just automatically trust you the moment they see you, no matter who you're with.  Ash does a complete 180 and doesn't care what reason there was as to why you can't contact her.  You can even say you've been dead for two years; it won't matter.  I like her as a character; as a Paragon Shep, she comes to actually trust aliens, like Garrus.

No....I attribute my drop in appreciation for her more on the writers than anything else.

As for Jacob scoring higher with guys than girls, I'm not surprised.  Jack scoring higher with girls than guys.....that's a bit surprising, however.

[MachineMaiden]

Wow, I'm surprised on how popular Wrex and Legion are. It makes me pleasently happy though.

Hope for a Legion romance or possibly krogan one?

[Quaay]

I love Jack. She and Kaidan were the only characters I gave a 10. Hair doesn't matter, tattoos are awesome, and I don't believe in censorship. She's interesting and I loved getting to know her. "No one's ever asked me any of this stuff before so thanks, and F U!" That's totally how my best friends IRL talk. I rated Miranda low just because the more I played, the less I trusted her. I love her voice actress/face model so I had a soft spot for her initially but her quitting Cerberus after being a loyalist for so long just threw a red flag up for me and I felt like she would be the one to sell me out and pretend to have quit while still reporting my whereabouts to TIM in ME3.



I think because Legion comes late in the game makes me want to get to know him more. Plus his story is soooo interesting. I had no idea until the derelict ship my 1st playthrough that a geth would be friendly. I loved that. He's cool and awesome.

[Merlin 47]

mrsph wrote...

I'm not surprised Jack scored higher with girls. Because, let's face it, Jack is the kind of woman the average man is not going to like.

If I shaved my head IRL, tattooed most of my body, and swore like a sailor I certainly wouldn't be finding many boyfriends.

Then count me in the minorty for Guys then; I actually liked Jack.  My initial reaction, yes, was a bit off-putting, because I saw her as bi-polar.  But, as I talked with her more, I actually found a likable person in Jack.

[Redcoat]

Jack is an example of a character I disliked at first, yet when you peel back her layers you quickly realise that her entire life has been nothing except one punch in the face after another. Also, she hates Miranda, and as they say, seek the enemy of your enemy, and you shall find a friend. She wants to filet Miranda, and I'll provide the knife.

Back on topic, I wonder if BioWare suddenly announcing that all ME1 and ME2 squadmates are returning in ME3 would significantly affect the survey results? On these forums there's so much anxiety about who will be returning or not, and that might fuel some hostility towards certain characters.

[Mox Ruuga]

bobobo878 wrote...

I noticed that Morinth scored pretty low. Is it because she lied about her victims feeling good before they die?

My guess is that its because she's a sex demon, and unlike with Fall-from-Grace, not a very "redeemable" one either. Her ratings would be up there with Wrex and Mordin, believe you me, had she fulfilled certain qualities... As it is now, she's just a gleefully unrepentant monster. Men don't seem to get the "Hannibal Lecter, sex god!" reactions to these types, unlike the opposite sex...

[RPGmom28]

If Morinth had been a distinct character, I wouldn't have turned up my nose at her so fast. But because of the way she "hides in plain sight" and takes on her mother's persona, except for skills it's like you still have Samara in your squad. Therefore she's not particularly interesting, and as a straight female I don't even care about her supposed sex appeal. Seems like it doesn't do anything for the guys, either, seeing as she scored so low.

[Funkcase]

I'm dissapointed Ash aint as popular as I hoped she would be, but I suppose most fans just want every character to agree with Shepard and kiss his/her ass, I find it incredibly boring when characters dont have there own opinions, a great character will not always agree with the player, and that's what I love about Ash, she has her own opinions, she is down to earth, her caracter feels human, I didn't get that feeling with any of the ME2 squad, even Miranda, Jack, Jacob, Zaeed and Kasumi felt alien to me. Ash also has some seriously good character develpment, you can talk to her if she aint you're LI also, and the LI story with Ash seems to go at a steady pace and aint rushed, she's pretty underrated, imo. She also has some kick ass quotes

Modifié par Funkcase, 27 septembre 2010 - 01:39 .

[AntiChri5]

Wish there was more Jack love.

Not surprised though.

So many people refuse to take a peek under the surface....

[Funkcase]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Wish there was more Jack love.
Not surprised though.
So many people refuse to take a peek under the surface....

I like Jack, another underrated character imo, and my second favourite LI for male Shep.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Wish there was more Jack love.
Not surprised though.
So many people refuse to take a peek under the surface....

I think people dislike Jack as a character for better reasons than that.