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[addiction21]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Back in my day Team Fortress was a Quake mod

I bet back in your day people also did not make themselves out to be dumber then they actually are to troll.

[Onyx Jaguar]

addiction21 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Back in my day Team Fortress was a Quake mod

I bet back in your day people also did not make themselves out to be dumber then they actually are to troll.

Nope same problems, remember Marky Mark?

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 26 septembre 2010 - 02:29 .

[Beerfish]

The OP was giving BioWare a ton of credit for modding ability, something that gets taken for granted considering that DA could very well have been a toolset less game. I wish these modding and toolet set fanboys/fangirls would stop giving BioWare usch high praise. ;O)

[addiction21]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Back in my day Team Fortress was a Quake mod

I bet back in your day people also did not make themselves out to be dumber then they actually are to troll.

Nope, remember Marky Mark?

Why yes I do  of course his brother and New Kids on the Block blew him out the water but then were a bit off topic now.

[Dr. wonderful]

David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...
Mr. Gaider, come on. We know you feed on our fear, but also our tears?
We're doomed.

We writers have always fed on your tears. The part where we get to enjoy watching people melodramatically throw themselves around the forums while they rend their shirts is just an added bonus.

But that the problem isn't it? It ALWAYS those PC fanboys who B*tch and Moan over how something is RUINED FOREVER!!!1!.

Dragon age had what? One game, two novels, a online game, expansion pack and a couple of DLC.
How is it Ruined when it never fully launch into a series yet?

"Oh the PC will be let out!"
 
Merida! It always the consoles that get let out! We always get less polished features and overall crappy Reception.
Frome the fanbase.

Did Dragon age do that? Nope, Got the same features as the PC except for some trvial matters.  Also PC owners get to modify their game so it looks better and change how characters looked.

Consoles Fanboys? We're glad just to get some love.
So THANK YOU DAVID, THANK YOU BIOWARE.

Keep on doing that Crazy thing you do.

[Onyx Jaguar]

From Electronic Arts to the Funky Bunch in three pages. Magnificent.

[AmstradHero]

YuniSticksitDeep wrote...
I do know that the Original (Unpatched) dragon age game is still highly moddable.     Girl on morrigan for anyone?

No thanks.

By the way... Dragon Age (patched) is still highly moddable too. In fact... I'm doing that.

YuniSticksitDeep wrote...
I take some comfort in the fact that Dragon Age as originally released and now wildly modified by me and others will remain my choice for single player games to cherish.

I hope I am wrong that Bioware has abandoned us as far as customization, (PC users most Unique Advantage) but it is rapidly looking as if we will (well not me...    ) be forced onto a path that seemed similar with  the Madden football game.... did you know it came out first on the PC and now its ONLY a console game..who makes it again?

Sorry... I must have missed something because I can't see a logical sequence of sentences here.

YuniSticksitDeep wrote...
PS  I challenge ea/bioware to respond and deny this.

With what? For what reason?

Anyway... I hope you enjoy playing games in the future... As someone who enjoys BioWare's games, I hope that you continue to buy and enjoy BioWare games as well, but if you don't.... well, I guess that will be your loss.

[DukeOfNukes]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Do you remember the last two games Westwood made

C&C Renegade which, despite a substandard single player, had a particularly inspired and, to this day, unique multiplayer.
Earth & Beyond which...I never played. I'm told it was good...but wasn't interested in MMO's.

Westwood, in essence, got dicked. They were 90% complete with a brand new type of game that nobody had ever done before, and EA steps in and says "Either it sells well, or we're shutting you down." The game, of course, suffers from shortages and some of my friends couldn't even find a copy until more than a month after release. EA then takes the liscence, and releases a rather hideous title named C&C Generals...thus openly proclaiming that they wanted the C&C name for their inhouse titles.

I don't think that's what's going on here...at all. Just because they are making some decisions YOU don't like doesn't mean EA is forcing them to do anything.

[ErichHartmann]

Beerfish wrote...

The OP was giving BioWare a ton of credit for modding ability, something that gets taken for granted considering that DA could very well have been a toolset less game. I wish these modding and toolet set fanboys/fangirls would stop giving BioWare usch high praise. ;O)

It will be pretty disappointing if the DAO toolset is not upgraded for us after DA2 is released.   

[Sutamina]

addiction21 wrote...
P.S.
Still waiting on a sequel to Shattered Steel. Just saying there is a clear lack of super giant blow stuff up robot games around. http://en.wikipedia....awk's_Inception of course that was one of the orignal Westwood games so I dunno if the OP is correct it would lead you further down the road to damnation and no waffles.

took me 20 years to beat that game since i didnt know how to get past the star map. without help from a pc and the internet

[Dhiro]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...
Mr. Gaider, come on. We know you feed on our fear, but also our tears?
We're doomed.

We writers have always fed on your tears. The part where we get to enjoy watching people melodramatically throw themselves around the forums while they rend their shirts is just an added bonus.

But that the problem isn't it? It ALWAYS those PC fanboys who B*tch and Moan over how something is RUINED FOREVER!!!1!.

Dragon age had what? One game, two novels, a online game, expansion pack and a couple of DLC.
How is it Ruined when it never fully launch into a series yet?

"Oh the PC will be let out!"
 
Merida! It always the consoles that get let out! We always get less polished features and overall crappy Reception.
Frome the fanbase.

Did Dragon age do that? Nope, Got the same features as the PC except for some trvial matters.  Also PC owners get to modify their game so it looks better and change how characters looked.

Consoles Fanboys? We're glad just to get some love.
So THANK YOU DAVID, THANK YOU BIOWARE.

Keep on doing that Crazy thing you do.

You don't mean merd-- ah, you know, it's better not.

Well, I kinda agree with you, but not everyone who complain is a PC fanboy.

[Onyx Jaguar]

DukeOfNukes wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Do you remember the last two games Westwood made

C&C Renegade which, despite a substandard single player, had a particularly inspired and, to this day, unique multiplayer.
Earth & Beyond which...I never played. I'm told it was good...but wasn't interested in MMO's.

The multiplayer of Renegade was very good.  However it launched near the time of Battlefield so the numbers were extremely low.  Kind of disapointing in retrospect, liked Renegade more than BF1942.

Earth and Beyond had a similar problem.  I remember Freedom Force, Renegade and E&B tanking around the same time.  Freedom Force the most successful of those three but the other two not so much.  

Westwood's demise doesn't sound that far fetched to me.  How many companies survive a failed MMO?  Much less two consecutive products that tanked.  Also I don't recall Dune 2000 and that other Dune sequel being that successful either.  They had Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 under EA but that was pretty much it from a success standpoint.

[Dr. wonderful]

Dhiro wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...
Mr. Gaider, come on. We know you feed on our fear, but also our tears?
We're doomed.

We writers have always fed on your tears. The part where we get to enjoy watching people melodramatically throw themselves around the forums while they rend their shirts is just an added bonus.

But that the problem isn't it? It ALWAYS those PC fanboys who B*tch and Moan over how something is RUINED FOREVER!!!1!.

Dragon age had what? One game, two novels, a online game, expansion pack and a couple of DLC.
How is it Ruined when it never fully launch into a series yet?

"Oh the PC will be let out!"
 
Merida! It always the consoles that get let out! We always get less polished features and overall crappy Reception.
Frome the fanbase.

Did Dragon age do that? Nope, Got the same features as the PC except for some trvial matters.  Also PC owners get to modify their game so it looks better and change how characters looked.

Consoles Fanboys? We're glad just to get some love.
So THANK YOU DAVID, THANK YOU BIOWARE.

Keep on doing that Crazy thing you do.

You don't mean merd-- ah, you know, it's better not.

Well, I kinda agree with you, but not everyone who complain is a PC fanboy.

Yeah...I meant, talk about getting crap past the Radar huh?

And the PC fanboys comment?  That was some pent up anger.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Sutamina wrote...

addiction21 wrote...
P.S.
Still waiting on a sequel to Shattered Steel. Just saying there is a clear lack of super giant blow stuff up robot games around. http://en.wikipedia....awk's_Inception of course that was one of the orignal Westwood games so I dunno if the OP is correct it would lead you further down the road to damnation and no waffles.

took me 20 years to beat that game since i didnt know how to get past the star map. without help from a pc and the internet

SOME OF THOSE OLD VIDEO GAMES... FFFFFFFFFF

There is a significant lack of Mech Games.   About the only thing is Armored Core, which is more about building the damn things.

[David Gaider]

ErichHartmann wrote...
It will be pretty disappointing if the DAO toolset is not upgraded for us after DA2 is released.   

I agree. That would be too bad. We'll find out after the game is released-- really the editor for DAO wouldn't have come out until well after the game was released if the PC version hadn't been delayed. But I imagine some people would look on any non-simultaneous editor release as evidence of a conspiracy.

I also suspect that, since the DAO editor is so close to what we're using, that someone will probably get it to work on their own even before we do anything-- but that's only because I believe in the intrepid-ness of modders.

[Lord_Valandil]

addiction21 wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...


BTW, I know it's not the topic, but I had to say it. I finished reading The Stolen Throne Today, and it was great. It's up there in my book shelf, between The Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion (I know you don't like this one, Mr. Gaider).

Why is it between? ALso if people dont like reading hostory textbooks that is prolly the main reason they dont like The Silmarillion.

Well, Tolkien's books are my favorites.

[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...
I also suspect that, since the DAO editor is so close to what we're using, that someone will probably get it to work on their own even before we do anything-- but that's only because I believe in the intrepid-ness of modders.

I'd hope so too, but at the same time, to my knowledge nobody has gotten Awakening working with the toolset, so it would likely be even more difficult with DA2...

[David Gaider]

Brockololly wrote...
I'd hope so too, but at the same time, to my knowledge nobody has gotten Awakening working with the toolset, so it would likely be even more difficult with DA2...

Probably because the potential interested audience for Awakening is a lot smaller, but you could be right. Regardless, I'm pretty sure that Mike et. al. are very aware of how interested the PC community is in modding-- so if it doesn't happen it'll be a resource/time issue and nothing more. Which would indeed be too bad, but there's been no decision made yet. We're too busy to think about that right now.

[AmstradHero]

As a modder, it's great to know that you're thinking of us even though you no doubt being worked to the bone for the release of DA2. I'd love to see modders get the ability to produce content for DA2 if that part of the dev team gets time to work up modifications to the publicly available toolset.

[addiction21]

quote]Onyx Jaguar wrote...

[quote]Sutamina wrote...

[quote]addiction21 wrote...
P.S.
Still waiting on a sequel to Shattered Steel. Just saying there is a clear lack of super giant blow stuff up robot games around. http://en.wikipedia....awk's_Inception of course that was one of the orignal Westwood games so I dunno if the OP is correct it would lead you further down the road to damnation and no waffles.[/quote]
took me 20 years to beat that game since i didnt know how to get past the star map. without help from a pc and the internet

[/quote]

SOME OF THOSE OLD VIDEO GAMES... FFFFFFFFFF

There is a significant lack of Mech Games.   About the only thing is Armored Core, which is more about building the damn things.

[/quote]

Ya Sutamina has 1 up on me I could never finish those old Battletech games. Pretty sure thos 5 and a quarter floppys are still in my storage hole.
Good news is a new MechWarrior is confirmed as being under development  the video. If its half as good as that video... *drool*
THere have been some others put out besides the AC series. I remember one on the PS2 Red Ring I liked and theres another that a turn based tactical type of game.


[quote]David Gaider wrote...

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
I'd hope so too, but at the same time, to my knowledge nobody has gotten Awakening working with the toolset, so it would likely be even more difficult with DA2...
[/quote]

Probably because the potential interested audience for Awakening is a lot smaller, but you could be right. Regardless, I'm pretty sure that Mike et. al. are very aware of how interested the PC community is in modding-- so if it doesn't happen it'll be a resource/time issue and nothing more. Which would indeed be too bad, but there's been no decision made yet. We're too busy to think about that right now.

[/quote]

So stop chatting with us and put your foot down Be clear the virtual pitchforks and torches shall be raised!! I would be the lone nutjob thats actually outside your offices in Edmenton but there was this whole sorrid business with a moose last time I was in Canada and I am still not allowed to cross that border.

[David Gaider]

addiction21 wrote...
So stop chatting with us and put your foot down Be clear the virtual pitchforks and torches shall be raised!! I would be the lone nutjob thats actually outside your offices in Edmenton but there was this whole sorrid business with a moose last time I was in Canada and I am still not allowed to cross that border.

Well, there's nothing that putting *my* foot down will do. That decision has nothing to do with me.

And even if it did, there's probably nothing that can happen on a Saturday night right before I head out for some needed dancing. I'm going to go shimmy a little extra tonight at the thought that someone actually claims they know how the guys at Westwood felt-- or how we feel-- because they like games. I think that's worth a shimmy or two.

[Lord_Valandil]

David Gaider wrote...

addiction21 wrote...
So stop chatting with us and put your foot down Be clear the virtual pitchforks and torches shall be raised!! I would be the lone nutjob thats actually outside your offices in Edmenton but there was this whole sorrid business with a moose last time I was in Canada and I am still not allowed to cross that border.

Well, there's nothing that putting *my* foot down will do. That decision has nothing to do with me.

And even if it did, there's probably nothing that can happen on a Saturday night right before I head out for some needed dancing. I'm going to go shimmy a little extra tonight at the thought that someone actually claims they know how the guys at Westwood felt-- or how we feel-- because they like games. I think that's worth a shimmy or two.

With my Hawke will survive tune? 

[David Gaider]

Lord_Valandil wrote...
With my Hawke will survive tune? 

Oh, he'll survive, don't you worry. As long as he knows how to love, you know he'll be alive.

[Dhiro]

David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...
With my Hawke will survive tune? 

Oh, he'll survive, don't you worry. As long as he knows how to love, you know he'll be alive.

Good Nutella. Everytime I read about I Will Survive I remember about the horrible, horrible brazillian parody.

[Lord_Valandil]

Dhiro wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...
With my Hawke will survive tune? 

Oh, he'll survive, don't you worry. As long as he knows how to love, you know he'll be alive.

Good Nutella. Everytime I read about I Will Survive I remember about the horrible, horrible brazillian parody.

You should dance to my beat. It was locked by Mr. Gaider, by the way
Good to know that he'll survive, my Hawke will surely know how to love, Mr. Gaider.