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what are your stats that let you deal 3 digit damages to the enemies with backstab?

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and what's the most powerful two-handed weapon you've seen? I just found an Axe that has a DMG of 49, but i've never seen anything higher

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javierabegazo wrote...

I just got all the achievements :) wasn't so hard after all

@ the rogue build, what's more important, cunning or str?


Str is much more important. I had 34-36 Str at the end of the chapter with only 20 cunning(these stats were modified by gear).

Perhaps I was lucky, but with 20 cunning I didn't get detected too much, while staying at 16 cunning during some levels didn't work out too well.

The only downside was that I was too damn squishy. Anything towards the end of the chapter can two-shot me.

ADD: The weapon I used through most of the screenshots up there was a white Honed Berserker's Blade, which cost me only about 2 gold, no stat, 49 damage. The weapon with highest damage I've used towards the end of the chapter was a pale yellow Honed Berserker's Blade, some stats, 51 damage. I haven't seen a weapon with more damage than that!

Getting 3 digits hits really isn't hard. It should be viable as early as level 4-5. The key is: Backstab AND Flank.

Another Note: Due to the game's deisgn, you won't hit for more than a creature's existing health. e.g. a raptor has 87 health, if you one-shot it you will always hit for only "87"; an ogre has 30/400 health, even if you backstab + flank + crit, you will still hit for only "30" health.

Modifié par GhoXen, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:14 .


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Yeah I know that much. Silly me, I made my cunning 32 :P

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what were the best accesories you had? Did you know that you can save outside a shop, and if they don't offer good enough items, just reload to see different items? Same ofcourse with loot, in my beginning levels i didn't touch any of the loot, it looks like loot scales to your level

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Does anyone know of anything concerning how much XP we earn? Like if we leave one character dead does that increase the XP pool for the remaining characters?

And what exactly contributes towards a flanking move?

Modifié par javierabegazo, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:33 .


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I had to do that COUNTLESS times to get some of the best loots. >> Wasted probably 30 minutes just reloading to get my yellow tier 3 leather and that honed berserker sword.



I don't think that loot scales with your level though. At level 3 I can basically reload a bunch of times to get a tier 3 honed berserker sword for nearly the rest of the game.

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When you get the golden lamp/urn loot, whats the best items to expect from those?
Sorry to dog you with another question but whats the best armor you have for your Rogue? that is to say the best Medium armor, name + stats

Modifié par javierabegazo, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:57 .


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Hm, never noticed. 20s?

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javierabegazo wrote...

Does anyone know of anything concerning how much XP we earn? Like if we leave one character dead does that increase the XP pool for the remaining characters?

And what exactly contributes towards a flanking move?


Flanking requires that 2 friendly melee characters are adjacent to an enemy.  So your tank is next to an ogre as is your rogue.  If either of your melee party members swing at the ogre you get a bonus to damage for flanking.

Edit:  You could have 2 friendlies in general next to a single enemy to get the bonus, but I prefer to keep my mage in the background and safe from ogres.

Modifié par VaxiusStorn, 29 octobre 2009 - 11:20 .


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Supporting the above post, here is an example of flanking.



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When I played through with my rogue I took him up as a dual-wielder, leaving the statistics on auto advance.

Double Striking is okay, but with it's hinderance of not being able to crit or backstab reduces the damage output.  Flanking as far as I could see is uneffected.

Dual Weapon Sweep is sweet, towards the end of the game I was able to inflict 50-70 damage on two adjecent foes and got that sweet double kill several times.

Flurry is very nice but with its high stamina cost it should be.  I managed to get some high damages with this.

I'm pretty sure that my rogue was the easiest to complete the game with, but that is because he was the last one I ran through the game.  I didn't get any decent drops for the whole of his game and still managed to get a flanking backstab on a troll for 138.

As a note: any melee can backstab, you have to be behind the opponent and not move.  I've seen warriors get backstabs in too.

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Thanks for help :) Now I can't imagine playing the game with another class. I hope the 2nd chapter comes soon, although I guess we'll all be playing DAO by then.

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@yinn yari,

What was your level towards the end? to get those higher upgrades? Its too bad monsters don't respawn

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I'll be playin DA:J chapter 2, since I don't get to get this game right away when it comes out. Image IPB

Does the 3 digit flanking backstab require Flaming Weapons? Because I've flanked backstab on the rogue log & my highest backstab on the log was in the 80s in damage. (Mind ya, that's still good.) I put 4 points into cunning at lvl 2, & every other point into str on the other level ups. Finished at lvl 7. Does it matter what weapon is used for the backstab? I was using 2h axes. (a.k.a. the greatest weapons of them all Image IPB)

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Tyrax Lightning wrote...

I'll be playin DA:J chapter 2, since I don't get to get this game right away when it comes out. Image IPB

Does the 3 digit flanking backstab require Flaming Weapons? Because I've flanked backstab on the rogue log & my highest backstab on the log was in the 80s in damage. (Mind ya, that's still good.) I put 4 points into cunning at lvl 2, & every other point into str on the other level ups. Finished at lvl 7. Does it matter what weapon is used for the backstab? I was using 2h axes. (a.k.a. the greatest weapons of them all Image IPB)


A weapon with a very very high damage is just as important as high Str. My personal weapon was Honed Berserker's Blade(pale yellow/yellow) with damage of 51, however I was able to throw out 3 digit hits with a white Honed Berserker's Blade at 49 damage.

Flaming Weapon is not required, nor is any debuff on enemy(such as below the belt) required. They will merely turn your 120 into 180. The two important keys are: make sure it's a flank + backstab; make sure the enemy actually has 3 digits health left.

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Man, that's nuts. I'll definitely try that. Another thing that works well is if you get two mages and alternate "Mind blasts" or whatever that spell that stuns and does damage is. Especially effective against ogres (how I got Ogerific Tactics) enemies hardly ever pass the "don't get stunned" check.

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GhoXen wrote...

Tyrax Lightning wrote...

I'll be playin DA:J chapter 2, since I don't get to get this game right away when it comes out. Image IPB

Does the 3 digit flanking backstab require Flaming Weapons? Because I've flanked backstab on the rogue log & my highest backstab on the log was in the 80s in damage. (Mind ya, that's still good.) I put 4 points into cunning at lvl 2, & every other point into str on the other level ups. Finished at lvl 7. Does it matter what weapon is used for the backstab? I was using 2h axes. (a.k.a. the greatest weapons of them all Image IPB)


A weapon with a very very high damage is just as important as high Str. My personal weapon was Honed Berserker's Blade(pale yellow/yellow) with damage of 51, however I was able to throw out 3 digit hits with a white Honed Berserker's Blade at 49 damage.

Flaming Weapon is not required, nor is any debuff on enemy(such as below the belt) required. They will merely turn your 120 into 180. The two important keys are: make sure it's a flank + backstab; make sure the enemy actually has 3 digits health left.

Ahh, forgot to mention that I paid dearly for my start-game GreatAxe find. I finished Chapter one with a tier 2 GreatAxe, never finding a tier 3 GreatAxe. That could explain my situation. Guess i'll have to wait for chapter 2 for 3 digit carnage. Image IPB

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GhoXen wrote...

"Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!!"
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The gaming breaking secret is: max Str/Cunning, learn 2-handed talents especially Overrun, level 2 stealth and combat movement. You'll beat the crap out of Martine's dps with your greatsword backstabs. :D

Add: I've been one-shotting things for the last ten minutes or so. Butts are being liberally kicked!

5-star thread for that picture alone.

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javierabegazo wrote...

@yinn yari,
What was your level towards the end? to get those higher upgrades? Its too bad monsters don't respawn


My rogue got to level 6-7

He uses:

Main Hand: Piercing Longsword (Tier 3; Damage 29; +1 Armour Penetration,  +5 Combat Initative)
Off Hand: Decisive Battle-Axe (Tier 2; Damage 24(12 in off hand), +2 Defense, +15% change to prevent enemy counter-attack)

As I said, I mamaged to avoid any decent drops the whole of his game
:)