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[elearon1]

I didn't mind Miranda - her appearance and the way she dressed/carried herself was part of who she was. Women - especially strong women - should not feel as though they have to dress like sexless drones to be taken seriously. Miranda was also the type to use every asset she could to accomplish her goals - if that meant distracting men with her tight outfits, every bit counts.



Samara's outfit seemed needlessly revealing, but I guess it could be argued that Asari are very sensual beings and as such they feel very comfortable expressing themselves that way. To me, though, it seemed a bit much.



But let us not forget that we have a vid of Jacob doing situps in the latest DLC, so it seems the devs aren't afraid of adding beefcake to their menu.



I would not call it sexist. Sex in any form sells, but the sexually attractive and showcased characters in the game are still very strong and competent figures - nowhere is it even suggested they are not deserving of what they've achieved, nor that they used their bodies to get where they are. And I see no sign of a glass ceiling in the ME universe.

[Khayness]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

Samara gets her chest looked at badly, but have you ever compared her costume design to Thanes? I know they're different sexes and you can't apply everything to both genders that way, but still, there is chests from both sides shown, and nobody seems to think about that, just sayin'.

"Therapy and Care: "..." Thane should continue to wear loose clothing
that leaves his chest uncovered to prevent moisture buildup that could
worsen the problem
"

[Gibb_Shepard]

GodWood wrote...

Schuback wrote...
Yo op, don't like it? then leave! Otherwise, get a job and grow up!

Thats a nice attitude to have.
"Don't like how Bioware changed the companion's outfits into marvel superhero costumes? GTFO and get a job!"

The topic isn't about companions wearing armour, the topic is about OP having a beef with attractive females.

Seriously OP, i could say that BW are being sexist towards men with Jacob's perfect abs, tiny waist and pornstar like personality.

Bioware your being sexist towards men!! They must all be fat lards and not be physically attractive in any manner!!!

[GodWood]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Schuback wrote...
Yo op, don't like it? then leave! Otherwise, get a job and grow up!

Thats a nice attitude to have.
"Don't like how Bioware changed the companion's outfits into marvel superhero costumes? GTFO and get a job!"

The topic isn't about companions wearing armour, the topic is about OP having a beef with attractive females.

Seriously OP, i could say that BW are being sexist towards men with Jacob's perfect abs, tiny waist and pornstar like personality.

Bioware your being sexist towards men!! They must all be fat lards and not be physically attractive in any manner!!!

The OPs calling Bioware sexist because of the companions armour.
I myself wouldn't use the word sexist but still don't like the outfits all the same.

Oh and I also hate the male's outfits (Jacob and Thane) as well.

[Abastardious]

The issue goes both ways, of course. I don't mind boobs, beautiful women and abs or big biceps, but this is Mass Effect! If I want to get aroused to pixelated boobs or naked women there's plenty of that elsewhere. Does any of that really add anything to the Mass Effect story or universe? But! I think there's a big difference between the dancers in Omega and the revealing and sexist camera views of Miranda's behind. Last time I checked Mass Effect 2 had a 18+ or M rating. We're not, atleast I am, not 14....

Modifié par Abastardious, 26 septembre 2010 - 01:11 .

[Vena_86]

Abastardious wrote...
Come on, Bioware! Your games and characters is not about boobs and tight clothes! <_<

Yeah, in reality they are about boobs, tight clothes and 'splosions! Atleast since 2010.

[kalle90]

I don't really have a problem with it as even some people in the comment Miranda's looks. It makes me feel like Miranda just chose the style, just like Samara chose her style



It's obvious why Bioware really did it, but it doesn't bother me. 1 character just wants to be a cheerleader, 1 is crazy yet bold and 1 is from alien culture

[Melancholic]

I laughed and raged at this thread.

Miranda is a genetically engineered construct designed to be 'perfect', likely by men. They would not have given her A cups. Besides, it's not like she's a shallow character by any means. You can't really complain about sexism if the character is your de facto second in command and has a genius IQ and emotional issues. She's quite a bit more than just an ass.

That is all.

Modifié par Melancholic, 26 septembre 2010 - 02:24 .

[SSV Enterprise]

Yeah I totally agree that Thane should be toned down...



Oh wait.

[syllogi]

Melancholic wrote...

I laughed and raged at this thread.

Miranda is a genetically engineered construct designed to be 'perfect', likely by men. They would not have given her A cups. Besides, it's not like she's a shallow character by any means. You can't really complain about sexism if the character is your de facto second in command and has a genius IQ and emotional issues. She's quite a bit more than just an ass.

That is all.

Well...she was designed by a man who raised her to be his *daughter*...so making her extra sexually attractive because of her genetic engineering is kind of gross, when you think about who ordered it.  

I personally don't have a huge problem with Miranda and Samara's outfits, but I do think they should have had armor for missions in hazardous environments, and it's entirely possible to design armor for them that would have been practical and attractive.  I hope they address this in ME3.

[Synobal]

I seem to recall a day women wouldn't be allowed to wear such things as Miranda much less have her position in Cerberus. I say we put make her put on a dress and send her to the kitchen barefoot. Obviously she can't get pregnant so we can't make her do that....yet.

[Beerfish]

Eh? Sexism? One could make an exact same thread and substitute she with he and Miranda with Jacob no?



BioWare games have love interests, they try and make the love interests attractive. There is not much sexist about that. I guess in the next game the big love interests could be Hanar or Elcor.

[Synobal]

Abastardious wrote...

The issue goes both ways, of course. I don't mind boobs, beautiful women and abs or big biceps, but this is Mass Effect! If I want to get aroused to pixelated boobs or naked women there's plenty of that elsewhere. Does any of that really add anything to the Mass Effect story or universe? But! I think there's a big difference between the dancers in Omega and the revealing and sexist camera views of Miranda's behind. Last time I checked Mass Effect 2 had a 18+ or M rating. We're not, atleast I am, not 14....

Well let me know when you grow up some, or encounter actual sexism. Until then stop making threads that are groundless.

[SaranBlade]

FrancisKitt wrote...

*cough*Jacob's abs*cough*

[Lumikki]

Abastardious wrote...

Come on, Bioware! Your games and characters is not about boobs and tight clothes! <_<

Why not?

It seem that some people here thinks that Biowares games is all about romance, banter and sex scenes. Call it virtual love or relation substitutes.

I was thinking more like this is roleplaying action adventure game, but maybe I was wrong, we have sims here...

Modifié par Lumikki, 26 septembre 2010 - 03:48 .

[Abastardious]

Brodyaha wrote...

Are Samara and Miranda only there to have revealing clothes? No. Both have good character development. There's a few gratuitous bum shots of Miranda, but that's it.

I agree, it's not really a big thing, but thats my main point, do we really need those bum shots? It's like the game is telling me that I should focus more on her behind than her personality.

[oenis]

"I was waiting for you to get dressed, or does Cerberus really let you **** around in that outfit?" I giggled. The t&a shots were really 'on the nose', but I was happy they left femshep alone. I miss the epic space armour for everyone though. I wouldn't call it so much sexism as general tackiness and pandering. And maybe lacking in creativity.

[Pacifien]

Closed for some spoilers, discussion of a specific character (which has its own forum), and also taking the topic in a direction that's more general than simply discussing ME (which goes in the off-topic forum).