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Arijharn

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 I never used too in all honesty. I thought maybe I should try and help mend the fences with him on behalf of our species since he thinks we're the scourge of citadel space but the last couple of playthroughs I don't simply because he's a hypocrite, and if there's one thing we don't need more of in our galaxy (real life or in games); it's corrupt politicians.

He's against organised crime yet shakes down businesses?

Okay, that's pretty much the only thing I have against him, but in all things considered (i.e., I know pretty much nothing else about him) that's a pretty major thing... I feel it's hard to be sympathetic with him and he may as well be a barefaced Turian (wait.. is he? I've never really checked).

It'd be interesting to see what sort of consequences my actions take in ME3 though, hopefully it's somewhere in the middle (especially if I could otherwise provide proof of his nefarious activities and discredit him)

Besides, shooting him is just so badass, even though it screws up Thane and Kolyat's reunion animations (on my xbox, Thane doesn't actually walk up to him when they hug etc).

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tonnactus

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Its dumb to shoot him,not renegade. It plays in the hands of all other groups who hate humans.

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Yes, I kill that SOB everytime.

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Fiery Phoenix

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"Joram, get the hell out of here."

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 26 septembre 2010 - 01:38 .


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Or you could just ignore updating Thane on Joram Talid, let Kolyat assinate him. Resulting in him being dead, and Shepard's hands being clean! :wizard:

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Lizardviking wrote...

Or you could just ignore updating Thane on Joram Talid, let Kolyat assinate him. Resulting in him being dead, and Shepard's hands being clean! :wizard:


But that way doesn't give you Thane's loyalty.

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Arijharn wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Or you could just ignore updating Thane on Joram Talid, let Kolyat assinate him. Resulting in him being dead, and Shepard's hands being clean! :wizard:


But that way doesn't give you Thane's loyalty.


So? Once you got the heavy pistol upgrade from his loyalty mission, Thane's use is over.

And a loyal Thane isn't excatly better than an unloyal one. Considering the fact that Shredder ammo is totally useless. And he is completely useless on the suicide mission.

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This one expects to be violently killed for this, but I think Thane is useful to take the bullet for, say, Garrus, should you decide to delay recruiting Tali.

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I've always shot him, even despite not having Spectre status.



There's not much point in building bridges in my imported ME2 game. Humanity has taken control and giving the aliens an inch will just enable them to hit back at us. Better to keep them firmly under the boot.

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Oh like anyone was in any doubt as to what Shandepard did!

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I really don't mind killing that ahole but it's not good thing that HUMAN kills him.

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And let him become a martyr?

No.

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And give alien activists yet more ammo to use? To prove him right? No, I didn't like the guy, but the repercussions for killing him outweighed my own distaste.


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elearon1 wrote...

And give alien activists yet more ammo to use? To prove him right? No, I didn't like the guy, but the repercussions for killing him outweighed my own distaste.


Leaving him alive is worse than killing him because you not only kill a leader of anti-human sentiment, you kill a gangster who harasses humans. If he was just an anti-human activist, I'd probably wouldn't shoot him, but he's a thug too. Then again, I'm a renegade, aliens have plenty of ammo against humans already. One more body isn't going to change things. Taking out an prominant anti-human agitator and extortionist, may make others think twice before doing the same.

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I hope this is a decision where either choice comes back to bite us in the arse.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

Oh like anyone was in any doubt as to what Shandepard did!

:lol: Exactly my thoughts!

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AntiChri5 wrote...

I hope this is a decision where either choice comes back to bite us in the arse.


Bullets solve problems. If they create more problems, use more bullets. I'm not worried about killing him.:devil:

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mosor wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

I hope this is a decision where either choice comes back to bite us in the arse.


Bullets solve problems. If they create more problems, use more bullets. I'm not worried about killing him.:devil:

The best part is, guns don't even use bullets in the ME universe!

...

That is a joke.

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HOLY ****!! YOU CAN KILL HIM????



I can't believe i never realised this, probably because i always took the paragon interrupt.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

mosor wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

I hope this is a decision where either choice comes back to bite us in the arse.


Bullets solve problems. If they create more problems, use more bullets. I'm not worried about killing him.:devil:

The best part is, guns don't even use bullets in the ME universe!

...

That is a joke.


Haha, actually  even in ME1, mass accelerator weapons fire projectiles which can be considered bullets.

Modifié par mosor, 26 septembre 2010 - 03:22 .


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The Paragon interrupt is far too badass to kill Joram Talid.

He's a corrupt politician, as if we don't have a million to take his place if we kill him. It's relatively pointless; only problem with him specifically is that, while being a corrupt politician, unlike Udina he does not have hilarious lines.

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mosor wrote...

elearon1 wrote...

And give alien activists yet more ammo to use? To prove him right? No, I didn't like the guy, but the repercussions for killing him outweighed my own distaste.


Leaving him alive is worse than killing him because you not only kill a leader of anti-human sentiment, you kill a gangster who harasses humans. If he was just an anti-human activist, I'd probably wouldn't shoot him, but he's a thug too. Then again, I'm a renegade, aliens have plenty of ammo against humans already. One more body isn't going to change things. Taking out an prominant anti-human agitator and extortionist, may make others think twice before doing the same.

But leaving Talid alive is kind of humiliating him in a way. Here he is, preaching all about the evils of humanity, and he gets his ass saved by the first human Spectre. It'll be pretty hard for him to spin it in his favor if Shepard continues to be a paragon of virtue in the publics eye. 

Besides, if Talid continues to use his political muscle as a front for his criminal activities, you could always expose him. Remember, a certain friend of Shepard's is now the Shadow Broker.

Modifié par horacethegrey, 26 septembre 2010 - 03:29 .


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I prefer to save his sorry ass because he gets to live with the fact that a human saved his life when a non-human was going to take it.

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horacethegrey wrote...

But leaving Talid alive is kind of humiliating him in a way. Here he is, preaching all about the evils of humanity, and he gets his ass saved by the first human Spectre. It'll be pretty hard for him to spin it in his favor if Shepard continues to be a paragon of virtue in the publics eye. 

Besides, if Talid continues to use his political muscle as a front for his criminal activities, you could always expose him. Remember, a certain friend of Shepard's is now the Shadow Broker.


He doesn't quite seem like the greateful sort to me. Kinda like Khalisah al-Jilani. You just can't really with with them. He's just as likely to take that humiliation and channel it into being a bigger anti-human ******. As for using the shadow broker. From my experience, if you don't solve the problem yourself, then and there, it doesn't really get solved.

Modifié par mosor, 26 septembre 2010 - 03:38 .


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Water Dumple wrote...

The Paragon interrupt is far too badass to kill Joram Talid.

He's a corrupt politician, as if we don't have a million to take his place if we kill him. It's relatively pointless; only problem with him specifically is that, while being a corrupt politician, unlike Udina he does not have hilarious lines.


It's one thing to be a corrupt politican. I expect my politicians to be a little corrupt. It's quite another to be an extoronist. He's one politician we can do without.