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[wise grimwald]

I am wondering about where to put proficiency points for skill in using a Moonblade. (The physical ones not the spell) Since Xan has one, I assumed, probably wrongly that it was a dagger proficiency, but the one in the Drizzt Saga mod can be used by clerics etc. No option for proficiency in daggers there. If you can use a Moonblade, do you automatically have grandmastery in it as you would with the spell? I hope that somebody knows.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

In BG1 it was small swords. BGT translated that to daggers. I don't know what Tutu or Drizzt Saga did.

[wise grimwald]

Thanks for your answer, but since I have both Tutu and the Drizzt Saga installed, further info from others exceedingly welcome.

[Flamedance]

It's not consistent. Using BGT and Drizzt Saga, Moonblades are generally considered Long Swords. There are two exceptions: Xan's Moonblade seems to be considered a small sword in the BG1 part of the game and a long sword in the BG2 part of the game. There's also a Moonblade in the game that's considered a Twohanded sword, but it's irrelevant to player characters.
Note that as far as i can tell the Moonblade added by mods is ONLY useable by elves and halfelves (which is consistent with D&D lore). .
Also note that my game is very heavily modded and the above info might not be 100% correct for your game. You're probably safe if you invest in Long Sword proficiency, though.

EDIT: The Moonblade you're referring to can not be used by anyone with an evil alignment and anyone who is not an elf or an halfelf. No class restrictions. I'm 99,99% certain this is the Moonblade you're referring to.

Modifié par Flamedance, 26 septembre 2010 - 06:16 .

[Matuse]

Just use shadowkeeper to adjust your proficiencies once you find out what actually works

Modifié par Matuse, 27 septembre 2010 - 12:26 .

[wise grimwald]

Flamedance wrote...

It's not consistent. Using BGT and Drizzt Saga, Moonblades are generally considered Long Swords. There are two exceptions: Xan's Moonblade seems to be considered a small sword in the BG1 part of the game and a long sword in the BG2 part of the game. There's also a Moonblade in the game that's considered a Twohanded sword, but it's irrelevant to player characters.
Note that as far as i can tell the Moonblade added by mods is ONLY useable by elves and halfelves (which is consistent with D&D lore). .
Also note that my game is very heavily modded and the above info might not be 100% correct for your game. You're probably safe if you invest in Long Sword proficiency, though.

EDIT: The Moonblade you're referring to can not be used by anyone with an evil alignment and anyone who is not an elf or an halfelf. No class restrictions. I'm 99,99% certain this is the Moonblade you're referring to.

You can now be 100% certain that you are right . As a ranger/cleric my current character cannot become proficient in swords of any kind, so obviously will not be proficient in moonblades. Jaheira can be proficient in scimitars, but not two-handed swords. Coran is dead. So that just leaves Kivan who could be proficient and he only has 32,000 experience!!! . I was hoping that perhaps all characters had grandmastery as per the spell moonblade.
A related question is this. Are moonblades available in BG2 both in modded and unmodded games?

[Flamedance]

In my install there are 2 Moonblades that are definitely in the BG2 part of the game. The first is a Long Sword only useable by Xan, the second a Twohanded Sword only useable by a specific npc. There's a third Moonblade that might be available in either BG1, BG2 or both. I do seem to remember finding a moonblade in the Region of Terror mod (in the cave where Regis is held captive, iirc) during my last playthrough. By the time i found it, i had much better weapons, though, so i never used it.

Again, don't take my word for it. My memory might be faulty.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Damnit, my tea from yesterday has gone cold.



If you install the Xan mod, you can get a moonblade for BG2 - if you install Xan as a FM, you can get a great moonblade for BG2.

[wise grimwald]

Humanoid_Taifun wrote...

Damnit, my tea from yesterday has gone cold.

If you install the Xan mod, you can get a moonblade for BG2 - if you install Xan as a FM, you can get a great moonblade for BG2.

I know about Xan's Moonblade. I am wondering if there is one for my Ranger/Cleric as well.
Unfortunately my mod set up has Xan as a sorceror . I am not going to re-install. Too much chance of conflicts as it is HEAVILLY modded.

I wonder what will happen when in the dungeon. Could I accidentally drop the Moonblade from the Drizzt Saga?

Flamedance wrote...

In my install there are 2 Moonblades that are definitely in the BG2 part of the game. The first is a Long Sword only useable by Xan, the second a Twohanded Sword only useable by a specific npc. There's a third Moonblade that might be available in either BG1, BG2 or both. I do seem to remember finding a moonblade in the Region of Terror mod (in the cave where Regis is held captive, iirc) during my last playthrough. By the time i found it, i had much better weapons, though, so i never used it.
Again, don't take my word for it. My memory might be faulty.

I might investigate "The Region of Terror" and find out if it is compatable with my set up.

This time my character is male so I won't be romancing Xan.

Modifié par wise grimwald, 28 septembre 2010 - 02:15 .

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Actually with BGT I can successfully import the Moonblade into my BG2 games. Since nobody was able to use them however (and Xan brought a new one with him and was unable to use the old one) I've never used them, however.

I wonder if it's BGT or another mod.

[wise grimwald]

When and if I make it through my current game to Amn, I will let you know if the same is true of Tutu. I want to keep the blade for roleplaying purposes as much as anything. After all it is not as powerful as the other weapons you get from Dark Horizons for example.

[wise grimwald]

Well, I have picked up the Moonblade available in the Drizzt Saga. It certainly looks like a long sword and can be wielded by a Ranger/Cleric. However, I wouldn't know how to go about finding out about which proficiencies if any it uses. I could no doubt import it into a multi-player game which has an elven fighter in it. However, how would I determine the proficiencies used if I did that?

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Shadowkeeper proficiency editing + THAC0 checks?