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Or, take option 3:
The geth have crossed the Perseus Veil for the first time in 300 years, led by a ginormous dreadnaught. They trashed the Citadel fleet, nearly/did kill the Council, and it was only with the aid of the Allance fleet (which also got badly mauled) that they were driven back. [/quote]
Here's the problem though: you have not made any positive assertion for why anyone, Council or otherwise, should believe in the Reapers. War on the Geth? Possibly. But as per Anderson, the attack on the Citadel hit hard, for the military and the economy. Preparing a fleet large enough to take on however many Geth are located beyond the Veil? I'm not saying it shouldn't happen, but Anderson also tells us that it will take at least another five years to finish rebuilding the Citadel. That doesn't say to me that things are going so well as to launch a war into a region of space we have no knowledge of, at least at the current time. [/quote]
Exactly. If the Council is afraid of starting a panic, they don't have to tell anyone about the Reapers yet. There's already one advanced enemy out there they can keep the people focused on while preparing to fight the
real bad guys. The Council had already demonstrated thta they believed in the Reapers by the end of ME 1. I'm showing there's no real reason to deny it to Shepard just because they "don't want to cause a panic"
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Not entirely true. If you go back and speak to Anderson on the Citadel, the Council did make a war effort to remove all remaining Geth from Citadel space. As of Shepard's return, Anderson claims it's no longer even a war, more like 'clean up' with barely any Geth left. The Council also conceded from the start that Saren was probably using the Reapers to manipulate the Geth into following him. If this is the case, then with Saren dead we can assume the Geth threat to have died with him, minus whatever are still located in Citadel space. [/quote]
If the Council had replaced "Saren" with "Sovereign" I could actually buy into their logic. With SOvereign dead, teh dark space relay stays closed, and teh Reaper threat goes away.
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And on the side, 1) fund research into archaeological digs, particularly pertaining to Prothean or preProthean technology. 2) Reach out to other interstellar governments with treaties and alliances. 3) And oh, yes, find out what size batteries Vigil takes [/quote]
1) This isn't anything new though. The Council, human or otherwise, has always been interested in recovering 'Prothean' technology and do often get their hands on whatever archaeological digs they can find. They've already been funding research, though I would say doing this + building a new fleet + reparations from the attack sounds quite expensive.[/quote]
Right, but do it
more. Somehow I doubt the Council extensively intervierwed Liara about Shepard's visions, Vigil's warnings, or Liara's own theories.
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2) What interstellar governments? Council/associate-Council races aside, all that's really left are the Quarians and the Krogan. Unless you want to talk about trying diplomatic relations with the Terminus Systems...[/quote]
Quarians and krogan are two. There's also the batarians, the Terminus System governments, the various merc groups (the Blue Suns, Eclipse, and Blood Pack appear to be practically standing armies on their own). PLus who knows how many other non-Council races are out there that simply haven't been mentioned yet?
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3) Admittedly a good idea, presupposing that the Council has enough interest to reactivate Vigil, let alone being possible. But I doubt they would go into this with the idea that Vigil has key information about the Reapers and more in the hope of discovering new Prothean technology. [/quote]
Vigil is a
Prothean VI. Even without the Reaper threat, that should have every archaeologist and engineer in Council space unable to speak for all the drool they're producing. And it's functional! It just needs a power supply! And it's operating a Prothean research base! Not the cast-offs left behind for other races to find, but top of the line technology.
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Granted these are likely to be slow to get results, but it would be a start.
As it is, the fleets aren't even back up to pre-Battle of the Citadel strength. [/quote]
The reasons for which, to my knowledge, have not been given. If the reason is that they haven't had enough time to recover, how can you expect them to launch a full scale war into the veil?[/quote]
I'm not. I'm expecting them to use the possibility (and until the discovery of teh true/heretic geth split, a very real possibility) as a reason to build up and expand their military for the coming war against the
Reapers. If the Council doesn't want to cause a panic by revealing the truth about the Reapers, then use the geth attack as a reason. But completely denying it, especially to Shepard's face, makes them look like idots.
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I'd still say convincing Tali (who is close to Shepard) or Samara (who as a Justicar would be inclined by nature to help) is still a more modest appraisal of his abilities than saying Shepard should be able to convince nations to bow down before him.

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To keep this post from getting any longer than it already is, I'll just say that he's able to convince several of his squadmates awfully easily. Particularly those less inclined to help others, or have other things to do.
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Hmm, missing a few details, though still humorous. Shepard would also have to go about telling them that they'd have to somehow send forces into darkspace to fight a race of God machines which no one has ever heard of. Like I said, not enough intimidate points.

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Good thing they have a dark space relay

. Though that's more of a long-term problem. For right now, gotta get the weapons to wage the war to begin with.