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Arl Eamon problem, can't cure him, endless loop.


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Eltocliousus

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I did the Haven village quest for the ashes of Astrea, finally got them, ran back to the castle of Redcliffe but I can't cure Arl Eamon.  The problem is, I go to the 2nd floor and find Arl Eamon in his bed, although I can't click on him. Just down the corridor Conner is still alive (even though I'm quite sure I killed him in the fade) and there's the mother of Conner who is mourning the death of Conner, I talk to her and she asks me why I had to kill him, I get teleported down to Redcliffe village, next to the lake, Morrigan gains +4 Approval and.. well that's it, I go back up to Redcliffe and it's exactly the same.

Something is wrong and it's stopping me from continuing the game, I have no clue on how to fix it, it's driving me insane. If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it.

P.S: I can't find Bann Teagon anywhere either, I've looked all over Redcliffe castle.
I'm also using v1.04 of the game.

Modifié par Eltocliousus, 26 septembre 2010 - 02:30 .


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Still no fix, anyone any advice?

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I don't want to milk a dead cow, but I really cannot go forward in the game and it's really ticking me off, any help at all would be appreciated, I tried using (zz_arl_debug) with no help, is there a way to just automatically finish this quest, give me the Templar class I would get from it (and the shield, I think) and move on?

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The Templar class isn't granted by completing this quest. You're thinking of a different specialization.



I've never seen this so I can't offer any help other than to suggest trying it on 1.02a. 1.03 and 1.04 are garbage. Have you tried help.dragonage.com?

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What you get is Champion.

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*Spoiler* You need to talk to Bann Teagan to ensure Arl Eamon gets treatment

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Where is Bann Teagan? I've done a few searches and he's "supposed" to be in the hall at Redcliffe castle, he isn't there, although there are three Knights.

Although I did kill Conner in the fade and he's alive, yet his mother mournes him and that's where the endless loop kicks in.

If there is no fix for this, is there a way I can use the console to give myself the "Champion" specilization and skip the quest/make the game "think" it's finished? It's a pain in the back of my head knowing that I won't be able to finish the game once I get the dwarves & Elves on my side, I don't want to go through all of that just to come back to this later.

Modifié par Eltocliousus, 28 septembre 2010 - 01:05 .


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I can't seem to find the email in which to contact when asking a problem about Dragon age, I've already got one question in the "my questions" field in the EA support page (from when I asked a question regarding warhammer) but I can't find the email for dragon age. If anyone knows it that should help.

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Eltocliousus

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Still no fix, little bump hehe.

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You haven't answered any questions. What game version are you running?

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Eltocliousus

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I put that in the original post. v1.04.

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Eltocliousus wrote...

I did the Haven village quest for the ashes of Astrea, finally got them, ran back to the castle of Redcliffe but I can't cure Arl Eamon.  The problem is, I go to the 2nd floor and find Arl Eamon in his bed, although I can't click on him. Just down the corridor Conner is still alive (even though I'm quite sure I killed him in the fade) and there's the mother of Conner who is mourning the death of Conner, I talk to her and she asks me why I had to kill him, I get teleported down to Redcliffe village, next to the lake, Morrigan gains +4 Approval and.. well that's it, I go back up to Redcliffe and it's exactly the same.

Something is wrong and it's stopping me from continuing the game, I have no clue on how to fix it, it's driving me insane. If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it.

P.S: I can't find Bann Teagon anywhere either, I've looked all over Redcliffe castle.
I'm also using v1.04 of the game.


Sounds like you got some serious bugging there.  I suppose you don't have an earlier save you can revert to?

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Kastagir

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You could try "downgrading" to 1.02a. That's probably your best bet at avoiding this bug, providing you have an earlier save to play from.

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Eltocliousus

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I don't I'm afraid, Surely there's a way to finish this, even if I can't actually finish it myself, some console code or something, is there anywhere else Bann Teagan could be apart from the Redcliffe hall?

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Eltocliousus wrote...

I don't I'm afraid, Surely there's a way to finish this, even if I can't actually finish it myself, some console code or something, is there anywhere else Bann Teagan could be apart from the Redcliffe hall?


He should either be in the Hall, or with Eamon. I've seen him in both places on the Xbox, not sure about the PC version as I hvae purchasd it but am having issues installing it :(

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Checked both, nothing... I'll keep looking whenever I get the chance, it might fix itself sometime down the line. Still the same endless loop though.

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Does anyone know of an e-mail I can use to submit my problem?

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I have the same problem!!! damm bug

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Eltocliousus

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Is it the same problem as in, Isolde is there and Conner is alive (even though I killed him in the fade) and when you speak to Isolde you get ported to the Redcliffe docks and morrigan gets +4 approval and.. that's the loop? You go back to the castle and it's the exact same.

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Eltocliousus wrote...

Does anyone know of an e-mail I can use to submit my problem?


Official support is provided at help.dragonage.com.  It is Bioware's hope that you will either get help from other players in these forums or submit your report to EA at help.dragonage.com.  As this is a bug, in the end you will likely be urged by EA to submit this report here on these very forums where EA (the publisher and provider of support) believes that Bioware pays attention to these bug reports.  Whether they do or not, they certainly don't act on them. 

Support for this game effectively ended in December 2009 when 1.02a was released.  All efforts from that point on seem to have been directed toward the release of the expansion/1.03 and DA2.  As 1.04 fixed very little of what 1.03 broke, 1.02a is still your best option for playing the base game.  In fact, 1.03, 1.04 and the expansion add absolutely nothing to Origins, so there is no reason whatsoever to update beyond 1.02a if you're still playing Origins (aside from access to DLC items).

It is really sad that this painful learning curve exists when traditionally higher game versions equate to a more reliable game experience.  This is not the case with Bioware and Dragon Age.  Keep this in mind when you think about buying the sequel.

Modifié par Kastagir, 05 octobre 2010 - 04:50 .


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Ahh, thankyou for the information. I guess I'll keep buffing this thread every now and then, see if I get any answers. Thankyou though.

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I can't help you get around the bug in any legitimate fashion, and I am sorry for that. But since you asked about console commands, you may try runscript zz_arl_debug



As with all debug scripts, you do this at your own risk, and other elements of the game could be affected. I'd recommend keeping your current save, in case anything else odd happens.

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Hi, Thankyou for the reply.



I tried the "zz_arl_debug" console command and went through most of the menu's but could not fix it. One of the options (from the top of my head) allowed you to go back to near the start of the quest, or near-start of it and begin from there. I used the option and went "back" to the point where you go into the Vale and save the Arl by killing the demon controlling Conner, or something, once I do this it goes back to the beginning, it only seems to take me to that point rather than bringing the quest back to it, so the quest is in the same place but I'm in the vale in which I can't find Conner to progress through it anyway.



I hope I explained it well enough, hopefully I can get some more assistance.

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Little bump.

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You don't kill Connor in the fade, you kill the demon posessing him. He should be still alive in the real world. however, his mother is saying you killed him? That's seriously wierd.

Do you have any saves, like during the sacred urn quest, that you can go back to and replay? Maybe that will get you past this loop. Just abandon this save altogether.

EDIT: or rather, go back to before you reached Connor.

Modifié par Shinian2, 11 octobre 2010 - 05:24 .