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Why do you say the Reaper threat is absolute? Is it because they’ve been successful in the past? It certainly means they’re serious about their threat but I don’t see exactly how that translates into them being able to carry it out.
As I mentioned before, both the Citadel and Alliance fleets were completely ineffective against just a single reaper. You seem to be implying that at this point, we have anything capable of stopping them. Pure military power isn't going to do it, especially not with our level of technology.
To the best of our knowledge the Reapers are in rather uncharted waters themselves and, despite all their advantages, they’ve failed so far due as much to their own blundering (processing Saren being the prime exhibit) as Shepards heroics.
The reapers might be in unfamiliar territory but it still doesn't mean our weapons will be any more effective against them.
I’m also not sure the Battle of the Citadel would be indicative of how future battles against the Reapers would progress. Sovereign had multiple geth ships acting in support roles and completely blindsided the Citadel Fleet. 5th Fleet had limited intel and (of course) zero experience against Reapers, all the while fighting in the midst of a friendly metropolis and thus only with conventional weapons.
That is a very good point that I hadn't considered before. Did anyone have any non-conventional weapons that couldn't have been used around the Citadel? But then again, dreadnoughts are how the various races measure their military power apparently. Sovereign's shields are strong enough to withstand fire from any dreadnought in any fleet. Assuming you could penetrate the shields if you combined the fire from multiple dreadnoughts, you still wouldn't have enough dreadnoughts in the galaxy to counter the number of reapers there are.
What made you come to the opposite conclusion? I can certainly understand how the relative “body counts” would be intimidating. That makes it all the more important to ask why Sovereign so successful against galactic forces at the Citadel? I say it was due to his physical advantages, advantages that are far from insurmountable even without the CB, especially a Cerberus controlled CB.
If it weren't for those obvious physical advantages I’d be downright dismissive of the Reapers as a threat at all. So I guess the question is: how big an advantage do you think they really have (in terms of technology, numbers, etc.)?
Now you're evaluating the risks of each course of action. Destroying the base and trying to do without it, or saving it and allowing Cerberus to tr y to get something out of it. The reapers are obviously a much greater threat than Cerberus, what makes you think you can afford to take the chance?
I believe there are certainly several times more reapers than we have dreadnoughts. Each reaper is more powerful than anything we have.
But anyways, elaborate on these physical advantages. Also consider that the weapon that was necessary to one-shot the derelict reaper carved a massive rift into the planet behind it.
I won’t disagree with you about the dangers indoctrination represents. Do you feel the CB will be necessary to at least give our counter-intel people at least the ability to identify sleeper agents? I don’t, counter-intel people tend to be a suspicious lot but far from unintelligent (a certain Alliance 5th Fleet NAVINT major notwithstanding) or incapable. The experience of the STG combined with a judicious application of natural abilities might be an effective screen for indoctrinated sleeper agents by themselves.
That is a baseless assumption. We have not experienced attacks by indoctrinated sleeper agents we have no idea how effective it will be or if the action is subconscious, etc.
Again, you're risking just about everything by assuming you'll be able to handle indoctrinated agents through normal methods, the reaper's methods are anything but normal.
Considering the ending of season 1 of Battlestar Galactica.
I love your idea about using the CB as a manufacturing centre! I’ve not see that before but it makes perfect sense, especially if it’s intact to begin with. A nano-machine weapon is speculative, but not unrealistic and, quite possibly, conceptually brilliant.
On a purely storytelling level, I do hope the Reapers don’t have a “death star exhaust pipe.” It just seems a cheap way disposing of them, little better than finding a prothean super-gun.
That is true. But I wasn't referring to a strictly physical weakness, but more like one that is the result of how they're made or how their mind works. I don't know. =P
Also, I've read one fanfic where a duplicate Citadel relay was used to lure the reapers into a supernova, specifically one resulting from the destruction of Dholen, the star that Haestrom orbits.
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