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[CroGamer002]

Henry Cavill for Commander Shepard in Mass Effect movie!

Modifié par Mesina2, 27 septembre 2010 - 12:13 .

[CroGamer002]

MajFauxPas wrote...

3. Surprise: Paragon Shepard does something a Paragon would never do, and it drastically changes the plot.

The more he/she is perceived as ruthless/paragon, the more of a surprise it will be when he/she switches it up again... and the more humorous the pithy quips will be.

Like killing the Council?

Modifié par Mesina2, 27 septembre 2010 - 12:27 .

[CroGamer002]

Also there shouldn't be FemShep because Hollywood has issues to make Female main Protagonist a character, not sex appeal.

Only James Cameron done that( as far as I know) and I don't want him to direct Mass Effect( Avatar).

[Getorex]

Mesina2 wrote...

Also there shouldn't be FemShep because Hollywood has issues to make Female main Protagonist a character, not sex appeal.
Only James Cameron done that( as far as I know) and I don't want him to direct Mass Effect( Avatar).

What is it with this?!  Salt, all the Resident Evil movies, the Underworld movies, Tomb Raider, Alien movies, Terminator series, etc...all female protagonists or strong female leads.  I do not want another one of these to be the ME movie to make it fit with some trendy chick-hero theme schtick.  Hell, there are LOTS of strong female parts in the ME series - they're all over the place - so there's no need to stick it right there in main protagonist spot too.  All that estrogen needs to have a testosterone counterbalance or it will become a chick flick.

[Getorex]

Mesina2 wrote...

Henry Cavill for Commander Shepard in Mass Effect movie!

Had to look him up.  Not bad but he looks too young.

Let me splain:  COMMANDER Shepard.  Commander = LtCol in the Army, Air Force, Marines.  There is no such thing as a LtCol (and thus Commander) who is younger than mid-to-late 30s (mid 30s is pushing it).  Many are in their early 40s.  Shepard MUST be in his late 30s/early 40s to make him believable or you have to crank him down in rank to LtCmdr (equivalent to a Major) to put him in the lower 30-to-mid-30s.

No pretty boys.  Not over-muscled guys either.  Someone who would be a typical, tough equivalent to an Army LtC or Marine LtC would be good (not Air Force!  Air Force types are largely, though not universally, geeky/spindly in physical form). 

Jason Stathem has some of the look, toughness, and age right and I would be down with him as Shep except his movies have tended to action cheesiness.  Not sure he could pull this one off with the right flair. 

Matthew Fox has the overall look and age right but may not quite be physically imposing enough (get him a trainer to buff him up just a bit more).

[Tazzmission]

Getorex wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Also there shouldn't be FemShep because Hollywood has issues to make Female main Protagonist a character, not sex appeal.
Only James Cameron done that( as far as I know) and I don't want him to direct Mass Effect( Avatar).

What is it with this?!  Salt, all the Resident Evil movies, the Underworld movies, Tomb Raider, Alien movies, Terminator series, etc...all female protagonists or strong female leads.  I do not want another one of these to be the ME movie to make it fit with some trendy chick-hero theme schtick.  Hell, there are LOTS of strong female parts in the ME series - they're all over the place - so there's no need to stick it right there in main protagonist spot too.  All that estrogen needs to have a testosterone counterbalance or it will become a chick flick.

resident evil franchise blows! im all for a femshep but who can fit the role? its not like sigourney weaver is in her prime like she was in the 4 alien films. the only woman i can only see come close to a femshep is christina loken who played the female terminator from terminator 3

[Tazzmission]

brian j smith from stargate universe looks alot like shep but needs the goatee

[Getorex]

Tazzmission wrote...

brian j smith from stargate universe looks alot like shep but needs the goatee

Too young and skinny.  Again, a Commander (aka Commander Shepard)  cannot be younger than around the late 30s.

[Getorex]

Tazzmission wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Also there shouldn't be FemShep because Hollywood has issues to make Female main Protagonist a character, not sex appeal.
Only James Cameron done that( as far as I know) and I don't want him to direct Mass Effect( Avatar).

What is it with this?!  Salt, all the Resident Evil movies, the Underworld movies, Tomb Raider, Alien movies, Terminator series, etc...all female protagonists or strong female leads.  I do not want another one of these to be the ME movie to make it fit with some trendy chick-hero theme schtick.  Hell, there are LOTS of strong female parts in the ME series - they're all over the place - so there's no need to stick it right there in main protagonist spot too.  All that estrogen needs to have a testosterone counterbalance or it will become a chick flick.

resident evil franchise blows! im all for a femshep but who can fit the role? its not like sigourney weaver is in her prime like she was in the 4 alien films. the only woman i can only see come close to a femshep is christina loken who played the female terminator from terminator 3

Blows or not blows is irrelevant.  What IS relevant is that there is no shortage of movies made with female protagonists.  This one (ME) doesn't need to be yet another stylish bow to a trend.  And sorry, but a femshep is simply unbelievable in a live action punching out people, throwing people around role.  It was way beyond believable and reasonable in LotSB (loved it but...) for MALE Shep to try and punch out the ShadowBroker (he looked to mass about the same as a frickin' rhino or hippo!).  A MALE Shep trying to punch out a rhino/hippo is just going to be dead shortly afterwards, having merely inflicted minor pain on the poor creature.  A FEM Shep is not even going to dent the skin and would be dead a fraction of a second faster. 

Tossing guys who weigh in at 180 - 200+ lbs is impossible for a chick (130 lbs at best...unless she's fat)  but easily possible for a guy (even considering judo).  Physical intimidation doesn't really work from a chick (unless she's holding a firearm on you...firearms are equalizers) but does from a guy, training or not.  Female protagonists in this sort of action lead are more believable when they don't act like a guy all the way.  I'm opposed to a Fem Shep in the movie because there are strong woman characters up and down, side to side BESIDES the Shep character.  Estrogen is all over the place already.  I'm opposed because the role would require the Fem Shep to basically act like a guy in all physical ways and that detracts from believability.  I'm all in for suspending disbelief but my ability to suspend is not limitless.  When I see an impossible or absurd action it yanks my disbelief right out front and center and all I can do is feel disappointed and think, "Ah, c'mon!".  I prefer Shep to be more or less believable rather than a superhero.  A chick that tosses guys around like they're dolls, drops guys who mass greater than 40% to 100% on them like they're ragdolls, punches out rhinos, physically intimidates, etc, is too much. (I know women body builders...even they are incapable of being physically intimidating to a reasonably buffed guy and the Fem Shep isn't even a bodybuilder.  For me, reality and believability are always close by affecting my ability to fully embrace a movie and suspend disbelief). 

[Tazzmission]

Getorex wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

brian j smith from stargate universe looks alot like shep but needs the goatee

Too young and skinny.  Again, a Commander (aka Commander Shepard)  cannot be younger than around the late 30s.

he can bulk up for the role. i know chris evans really put on muscle to play in captain america. also the guy who played him in the game was younger than brian j

Modifié par Tazzmission, 27 septembre 2010 - 02:17 .

[Getorex]

I'm somewhat hoping for a new unknown face rather than them picking a pretty boy known star. If they choose a star, I'd prefer he not be a full-on pretty boy. I think Matt Fox, while a star, is not a HUGE star and is not what I would generally call a "pretty boy" (when he was younger, perhaps, but now he has grown past being a pretty boy).

[Tazzmission]

Getorex wrote...

I'm somewhat hoping for a new unknown face rather than them picking a pretty boy known star. If they choose a star, I'd prefer he not be a full-on pretty boy. I think Matt Fox, while a star, is not a HUGE star and is not what I would generally call a "pretty boy" (when he was younger, perhaps, but now he has grown past being a pretty boy).

mathew fox id like as shep also. id recomend chris pine but i have to see him with a shaved head and gotee

[CaptainZaysh]

Hey Getorex, Shep is a Lt Commander.

I agree with you about the game being an oestrogen-fest when you add Femshep to the mix, but regarding her strength: fit her armour with a combat exoskeletion mod and you will enjoy the cutscenes a lot more.

Modifié par CaptainZaysh, 27 septembre 2010 - 03:22 .

[Getorex]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Hey Getorex, Shep is a Lt Commander.

I agree with you about the game being an oestrogen-fest when you add Femshep to the mix, but regarding her strength: fit her armour with a combat exoskeletion mod and you will enjoy the cutscenes a lot more.

Ah...stand corrected(?).  I would swear he's a Cdr (all I hear right now in my mind's eye - err, ear - is Legion's "Shepard,Commander").  If he's a LtCdr then he's equivalent to a Major and that makes him mid-30s material at youngest. 

I've never seen the armor suits as exoskeletons (powered joints as well as armor protection).  So long as a FemShep wears a powered suit, then physical capabilities lacking in a female could be made up for artifically with the suit (ala the nanosuit of Crysis).  Body armor (PInnacle Armor Dragon Skin, for instance) can be lightweight but that is a relative term.  Lightweight to a guy is not lightweight to a female. That stuff only (normally) covers your torso, not your shins, calves, knees, thighs, hamstrings, butt, crotch, shoulders, upper and lower arms, hands).   Lightweight can quickly becomes distressingly heavy even for a guy.  Throw in a 9lb rifle (fully fitted out), helmet, OTHER weapons of equal weight or more...sure it's scifi but there are physical requirement even to future weapons that operate by throwing mass (balls of plasma, shards or metal, bullets, whatever) at a target.   

WIthout a powered exoskeleton suit a femShep is a mere waif.

Modifié par Getorex, 27 septembre 2010 - 03:48 .

[TheRevanchist]

Getorex wrote...

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Hey Getorex, Shep is a Lt Commander.

I agree with you about the game being an oestrogen-fest when you add Femshep to the mix, but regarding her strength: fit her armour with a combat exoskeletion mod and you will enjoy the cutscenes a lot more.

Ah...stand corrected(?).  I would swear he's a Cdr (all I hear right now in my mind's eye - err, ear - is Legion's "Shepard,Commander").  If he's a LtCdr then he's equivalent to a Major and that makes him mid-30s material at youngest. 

I've never seen the armor suits as exoskeletons (powered joints as well as armor protection).  So long as a FemShep wears a powered suit, then physical capabilities lacking in a female could be made up for artifically with the suit (ala the nanosuit of Crysis).  Body armor (PInnacle Armor Dragon Skin, for instance) can be lightweight but that is a relative term.  Lightweight to a guy is not lightweight to a female. That stuff only (normally) covers your torso, not your shins, calves, knees, thighs, hamstrings, butt, crotch, shoulders, upper and lower arms, hands).   Lightweight can quickly becomes distressingly heavy even for a guy.  Throw in a 9lb rifle (fully fitted out), helmet, OTHER weapons of equal weight or more...sure it's scifi but there are physical requirement even to future weapons that operate by throwing mass (balls of plasma, shards or metal, bullets, whatever) at a target.   

WIthout a powered exoskeleton suit a femShep is a mere waif.

Shepard is age 30 during ME2...28 in ME1 and yes he is a Lt Commander...just lettin you know lol.

[TheRevanchist]

Luc0s wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Shepard is age 30 during ME2...28 in ME1 and yes he is a Lt Commander...just lettin you know lol.

Correction, Shepard is 29 years old in ME1 and therefor 31 years old in ME2 (but physicially and mentally he's actually still 29 or 30 years old because he obviously didn't grow those 2 years he was being rebuild).

Ah yes...I was one year off, my mistake. Realisticly though he didn't aged at all.

[CroGamer002]

Getorex wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Also there shouldn't be FemShep because Hollywood has issues to make Female main Protagonist a character, not sex appeal.
Only James Cameron done that( as far as I know) and I don't want him to direct Mass Effect( Avatar).

What is it with this?!  Salt, all the Resident Evil movies, the Underworld movies, Tomb Raider, Alien movies, Terminator series, etc...all female protagonists or strong female leads.  I do not want another one of these to be the ME movie to make it fit with some trendy chick-hero theme schtick.  Hell, there are LOTS of strong female parts in the ME series - they're all over the place - so there's no need to stick it right there in main protagonist spot too.  All that estrogen needs to have a testosterone counterbalance or it will become a chick flick.

Resident Evil and Underworlds movies are from Hollywood?
Forget about Tomb Raider but like I said Terminator and Aliens is from James Cameron.

[Aedan_Cousland]

Getorex wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Henry Cavill for Commander Shepard in Mass Effect movie!

Had to look him up.  Not bad but he looks too young.

Let me splain:  COMMANDER Shepard.  Commander = LtCol in the Army, Air Force, Marines.  There is no such thing as a LtCol (and thus Commander) who is younger than mid-to-late 30s (mid 30s is pushing it).  Many are in their early 40s.  Shepard MUST be in his late 30s/early 40s to make him believable or you have to crank him down in rank to LtCmdr (equivalent to a Major) to put him in the lower 30-to-mid-30s.

I'm a veteran actually, and served in the Marine Corps. (US)

I agree that the equivalent of a Lt Col should probably be in his late 30s, but according to the ME timeline Shepard is about 28 or 29 IIRC at the start of ME1.  So Shepard is a little younger than a real world O-5. If given the War Hero background I think his rapid rise through the ranks makes a little more sense. Maybe he got a lot of field promotions.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 27 septembre 2010 - 09:05 .

[Omega-202]

Luc0s wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Shepard is age 30 during ME2...28 in ME1 and yes he is a Lt Commander...just lettin you know lol.

Correction, Shepard is 29 years old in ME1 and therefor 31 years old in ME2 (but physicially and mentally he's actually still 29 or 30 years old because he obviously didn't grow those 2 years he was being rebuild).

Actually not completely true.  

Shepard was born on April 11, 2154.  The beginning of ME 1 taking place early in the year 2183 with there still being plenty of time later in that year for the conclusion of that story, the events of ME: Incursion, the months long clean up war with the Geth, the opening of ME 2 (Shepard's "death"), the entirety of the events of ME: Redemption (Liara's story), the entirety of the ME: Ascension novel and all of the ME: Galaxy game.  

To make all of that jive together, I think that it was declared that the events of ME1 started in first couple of months of 2183 making Shepard only 28 at the start of the game with his birthday likely falling sometime before his "death".  Shepard was probably lucky enough to spend his birthday hunting Geth remnants.  

2183 was a VERY busy year.  

Modifié par Omega-202, 27 septembre 2010 - 10:33 .

[PWENER]

Jack Black: Shepard



Eddie Murphie: Jacob



Vin Diesel: TIM



Yoshi: Garrus



Ducks: Wrex & Grunt



NAZY: Ashley



Some random gay guy in the closet: Kaidan



Angelina Jolie ............... Legion?................... there was a hole.................

[JnEricsonx]

Yeah, basically Shepard got the promotion ala Kirk getting the Enterprise, i.e, through some incredible act of service(war hero/sole survivor/ruthless) So, at 28-30, he's just proven himself a incredible soldier, the late 22nd centuries Sgt. York, or Audie Murphy.

[TheCrakFox]

It should be based on humanitys first steps onto the galactic stage, with Grissom as the protagonist.



A film starting with the discovery of prothean ruins on mars (showing the religious, political, and public reaction to the discovery) and culminating in the first contact war would be the perfect way to introduce newcomers to the franchise IMO.



The way I see it, a film like this could take Mass Effect as a franchise to the next level. Wheras a quick cash in based on the story of the games would quickly be forgotten.

[PWENER]

TheCrakFox wrote...

It should be based on humanitys first steps onto the galactic stage, with Grissom as the protagonist.

A film starting with the discovery of prothean ruins on mars (showing the religious, political, and public reaction to the discovery) and culminating in the first contact war would be the perfect way to introduce newcomers to the franchise IMO.

The way I see it, a film like this could take Mass Effect as a franchise to the next level. Wheras a quick cash in based on the story of the games would quickly be forgotten.

This is exactly what it should be of. Not about some canon Shepard and Saren 'n' stuff. It would totally kill the mood, story and fan love.

BW should know better.