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[Zan Mura]

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

Bebbe777 wrote...

First Contact War.

How mankind unites under the Allianc banner, how we jump thru the first Mass Relay
Later how we encounter the Turian patrol, blow them out of the sky, siege of Shanxi and later the liberation of Shanxi. The movie will end with the Council intervention and how we realise how big the galactic community is. Perfect ending for a second movie about Anderson and Saren.

yeah that sound p good to me

I remain doubtful. "Humans go to space, meet aliens, fight, almost die, get saved by other aliens." I honestly can't tell about the intricacies of the contact war, I haven't read anything about it beyond some of the subtle hints and few texts in the games and on these boards. But the basic premiss is so been the done that. Maybe I'm just being narrowsighted or don't have all the info, but even knowing the risks involved in putting Sheps story to a movie, I would rather have that than what some might deem "yet another BSG / Stargate".

[Bebbe777]

Zan Mura wrote...

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

Bebbe777 wrote...

First Contact War.

How mankind unites under the Allianc banner, how we jump thru the first Mass Relay
Later how we encounter the Turian patrol, blow them out of the sky, siege of Shanxi and later the liberation of Shanxi. The movie will end with the Council intervention and how we realise how big the galactic community is. Perfect ending for a second movie about Anderson and Saren.

yeah that sound p good to me

I remain doubtful. "Humans go to space, meet aliens, fight, almost die, get saved by other aliens." I honestly can't tell about the intricacies of the contact war, I haven't read anything about it beyond some of the subtle hints and few texts in the games and on these boards. But the basic premiss is so been the done that. Maybe I'm just being narrowsighted or don't have all the info, but even knowing the risks involved in putting Sheps story to a movie, I would rather have that than what some might deem "yet another BSG / Stargate".

If you want to know more about the war you can read about here: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/First_Contact_War

Modifié par Bebbe777, 30 septembre 2010 - 09:27 .

[Zan Mura]

Bebbe777 wrote...

If you want to know more about the war you can read about here: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/First_Contact_War

Hey, thanks for that. Great read, and actually yeah haha. It didn't take any more than that to change my mind some. This story might not be half bad at all. :happy:

I still have this nagging desire of wanting to get the scale of the reaper threat to big screen though. But this could definitely work too.

[JohnnyBeGood2]

yeah, the eezo / mass effect feild / mars prothean relic discovery angle and the whole "whoa, we're small fry in a big fish bowl" angle together sounds good to me... the next movie would still be open in its choices carrying on from there.

Modifié par JohnnyBeGood2, 30 septembre 2010 - 11:08 .

[Omega-202]

Bebbe777 wrote...

First Contact War.

How mankind unites under the Allianc banner, how we jump thru the first Mass Relay
Later how we encounter the Turian patrol, blow them out of the sky, siege of Shanxi and later the liberation of Shanxi. The movie will end with the Council intervention and how we realise how big the galactic community is. Perfect ending for a second movie about Anderson and Saren.

And if that was the movie they wanted to make, why would they even need to have purchased the VERY expensive rights to the Mass Effect IP?

The movie you just described could very easily be made in any number of different fictional universes that exist or a new one made specifically for the movie.  There's nothing unique to that story that would necessitate the ME title.

Legendary spent the money to buy the ME rights.  They're not going to go ahead and waste those rights and make something that could just as easily have been made in the Star Trek, BattleStar, Serenity etc. IP or in a whole new IP all together.  

The ME movie will be about Shepard.  Don't delude yourself otherwise.  

[GodWood]

And it'll suck

[lastpatriot]

Bebbe777 wrote...


The ME movie will be about Shepard.  Don't delude yourself otherwise.  

...And Shepard will be female.

[nikki191]

it will have default john shepard soldier, romancing liara, skip most of the plot and lore of the games and will be the wing commander movie for the mass effect series

[lastpatriot]

nikki191 wrote...

it will have default john shepard soldier, romancing liara, skip most of the plot and lore of the games and will be the wing commander movie for the mass effect series

Wow... that's depressing!  I think I'm going to go give myself a paper-cut and pour some lemon juice on it so that I can feel better. 

[nikki191]

lastpatriot wrote...

nikki191 wrote...

it will have default john shepard soldier, romancing liara, skip most of the plot and lore of the games and will be the wing commander movie for the mass effect series

Wow... that's depressing!  I think I'm going to go give myself a paper-cut and pour some lemon juice on it so that I can feel better. 

ahh but if its not that... if potentially even a decent movie.. then the joy

[SpiderFan1217]

nikki191 wrote...
skip most of the plot and lore of the games and will be the wing commander movie for the mass effect series

I was with you until right about here....

[GifMike]

kylecouch wrote...

The word is getting around now days that the movie is in the early stages. With that in mind what are you hopes for the movie that will innevitably come? What do you hope the movie is about? Who do you should be the cast?

In my opinion if it's not animated with the same voices it'll flop.

[regnier666]

wrex and jack

[Monochrome Wench]

I feel that it will have to be a condensed version of the game and need some reworking to work as a movie.

I think things will work like this.

• Eden Prime works mostly as happens in the game.
  
• When Shep get to the Citadel the mission to rescue Tali will involve a combination of all the subplots to rescue her. Shep will recruit both Garrus and Wrex to complete it.
  
• Once Shep has become a Spectre first mission is to get Liara which will work somewhat like the game. Shep will meld with her to find out half of the details of the beacons message. Shep finds out about the Reaper invasion and the existance of the Conduit.
  
• Then next its time to go to Noveria to chase Benezia and find out what she is doing and where Saren is (Virmie). Shepard finds out about the Mu Relays location, but its meaning at this stage is unclear.
  
• Now Shepard travels to Virmire to confont Saren and finds that is he growing a Krogen army. Shepard finds out that the Conduit is on Ilos and the Mu Relay is needed to get there. It is decided to blow the place up with the nuke. Ash chooses to sacrifice herself (while Kaiden arms the bomb) because she has is 'in love' with Shepard, but he's interested in Liara. Sarens hands forced, he decides to go for the Conduit and use it, accelerating his plans.
  
• Shepard travels to Ilos hot on the heels of Saren. 'Sleeps' with Liara on the way. On Ilos they 'just miss' Saren like the game. Shepard needs to fight to the the control room to open the door and chase Saren to the conduit. Unlike the game Shepard will not be stopped by Vigil but instead needs to race to the Conduit and follow Saren through the entire way.
  
• On the Citadel Shep convinces Saren to kill himself. Shep is unable to use the citadel controls to do much to stop Sovereign. Sarens corpse gets taken over by Sovereign like the game. There is an Epic battle between Shepard and squad and Sovereigns Avatar. Destruction of the Avatar causes Sovereign to drop shields and is destroyed by the Normandy as in the game.
  
• The Galaxy is saved!
  
• Conclusion is largely irrellevant.

Modifié par Monochrome Wench, 01 octobre 2010 - 12:30 .

[Kristofer1]

that would probably work, but it would need to be three hours. I say if they make each game into either a miniseries season, or they make each game three separate movies which would be irritating but then they could make the 40 hour game into a 9 hour movie. wouldnt that be just amazing...

i'd rather an hbo miniseries with lots of funding.

[Omega-202]

Monochrome Wench wrote...

I feel that it will have to be a condensed version of the game and need some reworking to work as a movie.

I think things will work like this.

I agree with that basic outline, with one major exception.

Ash won't sacrifice herself because she loves Shepard.  She'll do it because she and Kaiden would be in a relationship.  

If you made Ash a third wheel, it would seriously diminish her as the "strong willed" female. 

Everything else seems pretty spot on.  I'd probably add that they'd try and tie Cerberus into the main plot.  My idea for this is to make them in charge of the Peak 13 facility on Noveria to establish them as the "twisted scientific" black ops group.  Benezia would be there for the Rachni Queen that Cerberus is holding on to.  It ties them in without needing the side missions.  

[NaclynE]

Hard to say considering that the leads not Shepard.



I would be greatful that I would be able to see each of the noteable races (Turian, Krogan, Asari) would be in it. Also it sounds like it won't be based of the games either, just the universe of.

[Rockworm503]

Mesina2 wrote...

Two things.
That doesn't suck and that is entertaining.

Its a movie based on a video game.
Everyone who sees this and doesn't hate it will not have seen it.
Even if its a good movie those of us who play the game religiously will say "WHY DIDN'T THEY USE MY SHEPARD?!?!?!?!

seriously though only thing I want from this movie is for it not to happen.

[Rockworm503]

Omega-202 wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

Getorex wrote...



The only people that would get into a pre-ME1 type movie are people right here and that means flop money-wise.

Unlikely .
They could create a pre-ME1 movie that involve the first contact war and the discoveries of prothean artifact  and the use of biotic .You know stuff like that . Shepard ain't the only hero .. hell we could see a Younger Anderson.

And the only people who would have ANY clue what was going on would be people who REALLY delved deeply into the games.

I have plenty of friends who have played both games and if you asked them "in Mass Effect lore, what was Shanxi?" they'd give you the weirdest looks.

There aren't enough people who care about those stories.  Not even ME fans care enough about those stories.  

If you took that movie that you're proposing and made a trailer for it and showed it to a general audience, you'd get responses like
-"Where's that white dude with short cropped hair?"
-"Who's this black guy as a main character?"
-"Why aren't they fighting robots or bug aliens instead of these dino-birds?"
-"Where's the human/blue alien sex?"

Few people know about ME.  Fewer people know its backstory.  Even fewer know enough of its backstory to care about fringe characters.  Its best to appeal to what the most people know about.  The game commercials and promotionals have made A LOT of people aware of Vanderloo-Shep.  That's what they'd go with.  


EDIT:
BTW, do you guys know one of the most talked about alternative plots that was thrown around for the Halo movie?  Rumor was that originally, some of the writers wanted to start the movie series with The Fall of Reach (following a lose outline from the Halo novel which became a backdrop for the recent game), aka a prequel movie.  

Do you know what the supposed response was from the producers and focus groups who were brought in for idea spitballing?  They asked why there were no aliens for a big chunk of the movie and nothing about the Halo ring worlds.  

The public has a vague idea of what the games are about.  When you don't include that little bit into the movie, people aren't going to be interested.

Yup you're right on the money here.
This isn't a cool little backstory movie to cater to the fans...
This is a cash cow that will alienate the fans... So I for one will have no part in it.
I have no faith in hollywood as it is I don't need another excuse to turn my back on them.

[Rockworm503]

Getorex wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Also there shouldn't be FemShep because Hollywood has issues to make Female main Protagonist a character, not sex appeal.
Only James Cameron done that( as far as I know) and I don't want him to direct Mass Effect( Avatar).

What is it with this?!  Salt, all the Resident Evil movies, the Underworld movies, Tomb Raider, Alien movies, Terminator series, etc...all female protagonists or strong female leads.  I do not want another one of these to be the ME movie to make it fit with some trendy chick-hero theme schtick.  Hell, there are LOTS of strong female parts in the ME series - they're all over the place - so there's no need to stick it right there in main protagonist spot too.  All that estrogen needs to have a testosterone counterbalance or it will become a chick flick.

What is it with this?!  Blade,  Matrix,  Die Hard, Mission Impossible,  The Expendables, Spiderman, Crank ect.... all male protagonists or strong male leads.  I do not want another one of these to be the ME movie to make it fit with the some trendy uber man theme shtick.  Hell there are LOTS of strong male parts in the ME series - They're all over the place - there's no need to stick it right there in main protagonist spot too.  All that Testostorone needs to have a estrogen counterbalance or it will be cliched....

Sounds stupid when someone else writes it doesn't it?

[Rockworm503]

Edit: This was a stupid post and I decided to get rid of it.

Modifié par Rockworm503, 01 octobre 2010 - 10:33 .

[Monochrome Wench]

Omega-202 wrote...

I agree with that basic outline, with one major exception.

Ash won't sacrifice herself because she loves Shepard.  She'll do it because she and Kaiden would be in a relationship.  

If you made Ash a third wheel, it would seriously diminish her as the "strong willed" female. 

Everything else seems pretty spot on.  I'd probably add that they'd try and tie Cerberus into the main plot.  My idea for this is to make them in charge of the Peak 13 facility on Noveria to establish them as the "twisted scientific" black ops group.  Benezia would be there for the Rachni Queen that Cerberus is holding on to.  It ties them in without needing the side missions.  

That would be much better, even though it changes things more... but its not going to be particularly close to the game anyway.

[CaptainZaysh]

cachx wrote...

I feel for whoever is the one that has to write the screenplay. Think about it for a second, I you were tasked to condense ME1 in a 2-3 hour movie, how would you do it? What would you cut? what would you change?

I would do:
Eden Prime - Citadel - Virmire -Ilos. Wich will need to rellocate Liara and Benezia, and cut the Thorian and the Rachni from the story.
Also, depending on how much detail you give to the Citadel part, minor parts like Tali,Garrus and Wrex will be very short or could even be written out.

The movie will follow a 3 act structure which means it will be split into three parts.

ACT 1 - SETUP
30 minutes long.  Halfway through there will be an "inciting incident" which sets the story in motion.  The end of Act 1 is called "Plot point 1" and it is the point at which the hero takes on the problem.

ACT 2 - CONFRONTATION
60 minutes long.  Halfway through will be the "first culmination" where the hero seems about to solve the problem.  He will be thwarted and will reach his lowest point (the "midpoint").  The end of Act 2 is called "plot point 2" and is when the story is thrust in a new direction.

ACT 3 - RESOLUTION
30 minutes long.  The big ending.

Given that framework, here's my guess as to the outline:
0 minutes: movie begins
15 minutes (inciting incident): shep encounters the beacon
30 minutes (plot point 1): shep becomes a Spectre
55 minutes (first culmination): the fleet is going to Ilos!
60 minutes (midpoint): Normandy is grounded
90 minutes (plot point 2): on Ilos, Shep learns the Citadel is a relay
115 minutes: Sovereign is destroyed

Here's a way I might try and write it:
Battle of Eden Prime - 15 minutes
Citadel 1 (Shepard becomes a Spectre) - 15 minutes
Mission 1 (set on "Caleston" and is a combination of Therum & Virmire) - 45 minutes
Citadel 2 (Shepard is grounded and steals the Normandy) - 15 minutes
Ilos - 15 minutes
Battle of the Citadel and denouement - 30 minutes

How would you write it, if you were limited to using the 3 act structure?

Modifié par CaptainZaysh, 01 octobre 2010 - 01:44 .

[TheCrakFox]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

Getorex wrote...



The only people that would get into a pre-ME1 type movie are people right here and that means flop money-wise.

Unlikely .
They could create a pre-ME1 movie that involve the first contact war and the discoveries of prothean artifact  and the use of biotic .You know stuff like that . Shepard ain't the only hero .. hell we could see a Younger Anderson.

And the only people who would have ANY clue what was going on would be people who REALLY delved deeply into the games.

I have plenty of friends who have played both games and if you asked them "in Mass Effect lore, what was Shanxi?" they'd give you the weirdest looks.

There aren't enough people who care about those stories.  Not even ME fans care enough about those stories.  

If you took that movie that you're proposing and made a trailer for it and showed it to a general audience, you'd get responses like
-"Where's that white dude with short cropped hair?"
-"Who's this black guy as a main character?"
-"Why aren't they fighting robots or bug aliens instead of these dino-birds?"
-"Where's the human/blue alien sex?"

Few people know about ME.  Fewer people know its backstory.  Even fewer know enough of its backstory to care about fringe characters.  Its best to appeal to what the most people know about.  The game commercials and promotionals have made A LOT of people aware of Vanderloo-Shep.  That's what they'd go with.  


EDIT:
BTW, do you guys know one of the most talked about alternative plots that was thrown around for the Halo movie?  Rumor was that originally, some of the writers wanted to start the movie series with The Fall of Reach (following a lose outline from the Halo novel which became a backdrop for the recent game), aka a prequel movie.  

Do you know what the supposed response was from the producers and focus groups who were brought in for idea spitballing?  They asked why there were no aliens for a big chunk of the movie and nothing about the Halo ring worlds.  

The public has a vague idea of what the games are about.  When you don't include that little bit into the movie, people aren't going to be interested.

Yup you're right on the money here.
This isn't a cool little backstory movie to cater to the fans...
This is a cash cow that will alienate the fans... So I for one will have no part in it.
I have no faith in hollywood as it is I don't need another excuse to turn my back on them.

So if people don't already know the story before they see a film they won't go to watch it? Don't be ridiculous.

How much do you think the public knew about Avatar before they went and made it the most successful film ever?

[Mr. Man]

There is NO way a movie could do justice to the games. Maybe an excellently written miniseries on Starz or HBO. But not one movie, no way that could work unless they get Peter Jackson