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[Merlin 47]

nikki191 wrote...

it will have default john shepard soldier, romancing liara, skip most of the plot and lore of the games and will be the wing commander movie for the mass effect series

I personally don't think Shepard should romance anyone.  There's already too much of a divide over this movie about how it's going to be a MaleShep as opposed to a FemShep.  Havaing Shepard have any romance is not a good idea in my opinion.


As for what I want, just do the best to stick to the main plot and I think it'll be all right.

Modifié par Merlin 47, 01 octobre 2010 - 07:40 .

[Saibh]

I'm not stupid enough to have any desires out of "Please be good, please, oh, please, be a good movie". I will be disappointed, otherwise.



Although, I might be disappointed regardless.

[cachx]

TheCrakFox wrote...
So if people don't already know the story before they see a film they won't go to watch it? Don't be ridiculous.
How much do you think the public knew about Avatar before they went and made it the most successful film ever?

Considering the massive marketing campaign that was shoving Avatar down everyone's throats for more than a year I would say they knew a lot.

To be honest, First Contact War sounds really boring. Unless they decide to turn Shanxi into The Space Alamo or something .

[Omega-202]

Merlin 47 wrote...

nikki191 wrote...

it will have default john shepard soldier, romancing liara, skip most of the plot and lore of the games and will be the wing commander movie for the mass effect series

I personally don't think Shepard should romance anyone.  There's already too much of a divide over this movie about how it's going to be a MaleShep as opposed to a FemShep.  Havaing Shepard have any romance is not a good idea in my opinion.


As for what I want, just do the best to stick to the main plot and I think it'll be all right.

There's too much of a divide amongst WHO?  The people who played the game?  HAHAHA. 

We're a drop in the bucket.  If they cared about what we thought when they made the movie, if they changed their direction because of us, they'd be idiots.  

They have to cater to the general audience.  They have to cater to the fact that few people know about Mass Effect and out of those who do, most of them know of ME as a Sci-Fi shooter starring "that dude from the cover".  He's who's been shown on all of the commercials.  He's the version that Fox News aired during their whole controversy.  

There is no divide.  Its only a handful of squabbling fans.

And to say there would be no "main character romance"?  Really?  Every successful action/adventure movie has one.  It was one of George Lucas's three rules on making the Star Wars series.  There has to be high adventure, there has to be a touch of comedy relief and there has to be a romance.  Oddly enough, it holds through to basically every successful movie in the genre.

[Omega-202]

TheCrakFox wrote...
So if people don't already know the story before they see a film they won't go to watch it? Don't be ridiculous.

How much do you think the public knew about Avatar before they went and made it the most successful film ever?

Who said anything about the audience knowing the story before they see the film?  MOST of the audience won't know the story, but they'll be aware of the games, they'll be aware of the basic gist from the commercials about the games.  They'll have a picture of Mark Vanderloo's head on a Space Marine's body shooting at robots with some alien sidekicks.  

If you give them something DIFFERENT than what they kinda know about the IP (Intellectual Property), they'll be confused.  


Let me ask you this:  What's the highest grossing film series to date?

Harry Potter

People know the entire story, and yet they go and see it in droves.  
What would have happened if the movies were ENTIRELY about a different group of people in the Harry Potter universe instead of translations of the books?  There's no way it would have made nearly as much money.  

And this is not even speaking of the alternative.  

Lets say its about Shanxi and its actually something that the fans seem to accept due to simply never hearing about the entire ME concept before.  

The story ends with a truce, a few hundred people dead and the leader of the ground forces, General Williams (someone who you couldn't portray as a coward without harming any future chance of properly portraying Ashley) in complete disgrace as the first human to surrender to an alien force.

Then the movie would end with the knowledge that EVERYTHING that just occurred in the movie was like a "schoolyard" tussle in the grand scheme of things.  Its revealed that humanity's "victory" was meaningless as the Turians could have wiped them out of existence if the Council hadn't stopped them from bringing in their fleet.  

Its a very bleak ending that makes it seem like the grand "war" you just watched was nothing but a border skirmish and that Humans are incredibly naive.  That's not a message you want to convey in a blockbuster movie.

[Spornicus]

I want it to not be directed by Uwe Boll.

[HazelrahFiver]

Omega-202 wrote...
Who said anything about the audience knowing the story before they see the film?  MOST of the audience won't know the story, but they'll be aware of the games, they'll be aware of the basic gist from the commercials about the games.  They'll have a picture of Mark Vanderloo's head on a Space Marine's body shooting at robots with some alien sidekicks.

Sorry, but I have to disagree here.  I have hardcore gaming friends, people who play games more than I do, that have no clue about Mass Effect.  It'd be pure luck if they even recognized the preset male Shepard from the cover.  I have mentioned Mass Effect to various people in the past, especially when explaining what certain shirts or a hoodie relates to, and they have no idea.  They've never heard of the games, at all.  Mass Effect is not nearly as popular as forums and websites make it seem.  It's known amongst some of the gaming community, and all of the professional gaming sites, but its reach is no further.  Halo, Gears, GTA, Resident Evil and CoD are all examples of games that are FAR better known.  You were right when you said we, the Mass Effect game audience, are a drop in the bucket.  Those who know the story are probably 5% of who would see the film, or consider seeing it, and another 5% would be made up of people who remember the Fox News story... and that's it, if even that.

Omega-202 wrote...
Let me ask you this:  What's the highest grossing film series to date?

Harry Potter

People know the entire story, and yet they go and see it in droves.  
What would have happened if the movies were ENTIRELY about a different group of people in the Harry Potter universe instead of translations of the books?  There's no way it would have made nearly as much money.

I know what you are saying here, but the audience that has seen the movies and not read the books has got to be larger than those who have experienced both.  Perhaps I am completely wrong, but I barely know any adults that have read the books, and yet have seen most of the films.  It's exactly the same as what I said for the ME movie.  The audience that read the Harry Potter books is a mere fraction of who saw the films.

[HazelrahFiver]

Spornicus wrote...

I want it to not be directed by Uwe Boll.

Run yourself into a sarcastic sword!......although, Postal can be pretty darn hilarious despite that it is unrelated to the game (I say game because the second was such an unplayable disaster.)

[Rockworm503]

TheCrakFox wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

Getorex wrote...



The only people that would get into a pre-ME1 type movie are people right here and that means flop money-wise.

Unlikely .
They could create a pre-ME1 movie that involve the first contact war and the discoveries of prothean artifact  and the use of biotic .You know stuff like that . Shepard ain't the only hero .. hell we could see a Younger Anderson.

And the only people who would have ANY clue what was going on would be people who REALLY delved deeply into the games.

I have plenty of friends who have played both games and if you asked them "in Mass Effect lore, what was Shanxi?" they'd give you the weirdest looks.

There aren't enough people who care about those stories.  Not even ME fans care enough about those stories.  

If you took that movie that you're proposing and made a trailer for it and showed it to a general audience, you'd get responses like
-"Where's that white dude with short cropped hair?"
-"Who's this black guy as a main character?"
-"Why aren't they fighting robots or bug aliens instead of these dino-birds?"
-"Where's the human/blue alien sex?"

Few people know about ME.  Fewer people know its backstory.  Even fewer know enough of its backstory to care about fringe characters.  Its best to appeal to what the most people know about.  The game commercials and promotionals have made A LOT of people aware of Vanderloo-Shep.  That's what they'd go with.  


EDIT:
BTW, do you guys know one of the most talked about alternative plots that was thrown around for the Halo movie?  Rumor was that originally, some of the writers wanted to start the movie series with The Fall of Reach (following a lose outline from the Halo novel which became a backdrop for the recent game), aka a prequel movie.  

Do you know what the supposed response was from the producers and focus groups who were brought in for idea spitballing?  They asked why there were no aliens for a big chunk of the movie and nothing about the Halo ring worlds.  

The public has a vague idea of what the games are about.  When you don't include that little bit into the movie, people aren't going to be interested.

Yup you're right on the money here.
This isn't a cool little backstory movie to cater to the fans...
This is a cash cow that will alienate the fans... So I for one will have no part in it.
I have no faith in hollywood as it is I don't need another excuse to turn my back on them.

So if people don't already know the story before they see a film they won't go to watch it? Don't be ridiculous.

How much do you think the public knew about Avatar before they went and made it the most successful film ever?

not my point.
It will probably be a fun little adventure but it will be a disgrace to the Mass Effect name.
sure Avatar was successful but it sucks it was successful because it was pretty.  I talked to one guy who loved it and its all about the special effects.

[Rockworm503]

Omega-202 wrote...

Merlin 47 wrote...

nikki191 wrote...

it will have default john shepard soldier, romancing liara, skip most of the plot and lore of the games and will be the wing commander movie for the mass effect series

I personally don't think Shepard should romance anyone.  There's already too much of a divide over this movie about how it's going to be a MaleShep as opposed to a FemShep.  Havaing Shepard have any romance is not a good idea in my opinion.


As for what I want, just do the best to stick to the main plot and I think it'll be all right.

There's too much of a divide amongst WHO?  The people who played the game?  HAHAHA. 

We're a drop in the bucket.  If they cared about what we thought when they made the movie, if they changed their direction because of us, they'd be idiots.  

They have to cater to the general audience.  They have to cater to the fact that few people know about Mass Effect and out of those who do, most of them know of ME as a Sci-Fi shooter starring "that dude from the cover".  He's who's been shown on all of the commercials.  He's the version that Fox News aired during their whole controversy.  

There is no divide.  Its only a handful of squabbling fans.

And to say there would be no "main character romance"?  Really?  Every successful action/adventure movie has one.  It was one of George Lucas's three rules on making the Star Wars series.  There has to be high adventure, there has to be a touch of comedy relief and there has to be a romance.  Oddly enough, it holds through to basically every successful movie in the genre.

yes I agree with you but why do you constantly have to say it?
LOL don't bring george lucas into this he hates the franchise he started and is trying his damndest to destroy it.

[Zan Mura]

Merlin 47 wrote...

I personally don't think Shepard should romance anyone.  There's already too much of a divide over this movie about how it's going to be a MaleShep as opposed to a FemShep.  Havaing Shepard have any romance is not a good idea in my opinion.

As for what I want, just do the best to stick to the main plot and I think it'll be all right.

But when's the last time you saw a blockbuster / mass-oriented movie (pun intended) with no romance? There's always a romance.

[Paladin Latham]

Mass Effect in less than 2 hours. Its gonna suck, all video game movies suck. Directors treat them like the joke they are and they all suck. The special effects will be awesome, they'll throw in a lot of stupid humor, the main character will be a jerk, and hopefully everyone will forget about it. Not unlike Bloodrayne, Doom, Street Fighter, Mortal Combat, Silent Hill, Prince of Persia and so many others.

Does anyone really expect this to be okay? The best movies I can remember are Final Fantasy Advent Children, Resident Evil (the first one), and Tomb Raider. Even those were pretty meh though.

Modifié par Paladin Latham, 04 octobre 2010 - 07:35 .

[frozngecko]

Mesina2 wrote...

Two things.
That doesn't suck and that is entertaining.

pretty much what this person said.

[Razorsedge820]

I want it to have its own story. In my honest opinion a remake of Mass Effect 1 or 2 into a movie wont work because there are just to many variables in both stories.

I know a movie based on the first contact war has already been discussed, that would be a good idea. Perhaps the movie can take place a couple of years before the attack on Eden Prime showing humanity's struggle trying to integrate itself into the galactic community.

Honestly as much as I love the Mass Effect franchise I am not a big fan of the upcoming movie and really cannot see it doing well but I hope I am proven wrong.

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 04 octobre 2010 - 02:45 .

[CaptainZaysh]

If you were going to invest $100m of your own money in making a movie, would you want it to be about the first contact war or one man stopping a cycle of galactic extinctions?

[Anglerfish]

I would like a cancelled film and subsequent re-allocation of resources to a fourth Mass Effect game set during the rachni wars/krogan rebellions, playing as a salarian STG captain.

Modifié par Anglerfish, 07 octobre 2010 - 11:08 .

[JohnnyBeGood2]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

If you were going to invest $100m of your own money in making a movie, would you want it to be about the first contact war or one man stopping a cycle of galactic extinctions?

I'd want it to be about the one that people watch so I get my money back plus profit.

[Predi1988]

I think if they want to make it a good movie, or to take it farher a good franchise movie, they have to start at the beginning. And that would be the First Contact War. Starting the story from the discovery of the prothean ruins on Mars, than the Kharon Relay, than the turians, than the whole council and humanity acceptance to the Council Space. Than it can be continued with any other kinds of stories. BUT not the game. Maybe the game should be mentioned or advertised with the film, but its too diverse, too much chuices in it to narrow it down to a film, and make it convincable. The general crowd would be pleased (not at much like at Avatar I think) but the gaming community (that's a few million people, guys) would not at all. And anyone who would purchase the game after the film would be like "Hey this didn't happen (like this) in the movie. It's a piece of sh*t!" . So I think it would be better if the movie is unrelated to the movie. Maybe some sidenotes, that only the gamers would understand, but wouldn't stand out to the genereal populace (wich I missed from the Prince of Persia movie) and that's all. IMO the First Contact War would bring enough action, discovery, drama, and freedom in characters to make high emotional and romance scenes to make it a Great movie. With a chance to continuation. Because there is still like 20 years 'til Shepard's adventure. That could be used. Maybe a 2nd movie about Anderson's mission with Saren.......

[RiouHotaru]

If Brandon Keener doesn't voice Garrus then PEOPLE YOU CARE ABOUT WILL START TO DIE

[jamesraylor]

I say film the Mass effect books and call it a day. Also Get Meer to play Shep cause well he is shep, but get him a personal trainer, he needs to buff some.

[MrFob]

RiouHotaru wrote...

If Brandon Keener doesn't voice Garrus then PEOPLE YOU CARE ABOUT WILL START TO DIE

Hahaha, I just played that Alpha Protocol scene yesterday. Very nice.

Anyway, I don't really care about, if they make the movie about the game(s), the books or something else. I'd rather, they wouldn't use the games themselves (I'd love a revelation movie) but if they think that's the best way to pull it off, then so be it (and it would be nice to see the Normandy in action on the big screen).
More important is that they get the style right. In the first instance visually. When you watch that movie you should instantly feel that you are in the ME universe and that means the lighting of the scenes has to be right (as e.g. in the blur cinematic trailer or the great distress call TV spot for ME1, just search youtube to find it). That we need the characteristic lens flare effect is obvious and need not be mentioned.
Now, I am confident they can do this right so that means we need a good plot. If they use the games or the novels, that shouldn't be too much of a problem but if they come up with their own story, I hope we get a plot with many layers. Next to the obvious threat we need some political intrigue and show the tensions between different races within the galactic community. We need ambiguous characters with hidden agendas like Udina or TIM.
Speaking of TIM, while I hope we get ambiguous characters like him I do hope the movie doesn't concentrate on cerberus again. IMO we've seen more than enough of that organization already and since it is said that cerberus actually is a minor player in the grand scheme of things I'd rather hope the ME franchise comes back to treating them like one.

That's it, I hope they make a good movie for the fans. And if it is good, I hope it wont be the last one. They finally (and AFAIK for the first time) make a movie out of a video game that has enough substance to go on the big screen and I hope they don't screw it up.