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Maverick827 wrote...
Choices would be fine if they did not intrude in my gameplay. The nature of these types of games is that there are a few armor models that everyone uses. If these were to be included, then I would eventually have to put up with them on Random Guard #37 and it would entirely break immersion.
Jynthor wrote...
So we can't be adults by dressing like we want?
Sago_mulch wrote...
srsly, you guys should be more concerned about the man thongs...is hawke going to be wearing a man thong...? i mean, having a man thong ride up ur arse is srsly incovienient in rl life, how the hell would you fight whilst wearing a man thong when t keeps riding up your arse. easier to clean, i guess.
You can dress as you want. Just don't expect to get armor for wearing basically nothing.
-hawke strips down his man thong, on a windy day-
Rogue Unit wrote...
Saibh wrote...
Rogue Unit wrote...
Not to mention mabari and mages wearing robes that get stabbed all the time. I think wearing skimpy armor would be more effective and life saving than robes, even if just by an inch.
One defeats the purpose of the other. You wear robes for magical enhancement. You wear armor to protect yourself, which is why wearing teeny not-there armor doesn't make a lot of sense from most perspectives.
As to why women might choose to wear more modest robes over revealing ones? Common decency, modesty, warmth, practicality?
In the scenario presented in OP, there are logical reasons for characters to dress sparingly. For characters like Morrigan and Miranda, it makes sense. But I don't see why there should be armor on men that fully covers them while armor on females bares a good portion of their chest and midriff, like Dalish armor.
When done gratuitously and only for fanservice, I don't want to see it. Women play this game too. You can have your fanservice in the form of Morrigans and Mirandas. I don't think armor should be skimpy just because guys get greedy with their fanservice. You want fanservice? Go play DOA.
Why does everything have to turn into "Women vs Men" or "Men just want the game to appeal to them" with you?
I never said anything about women wearing skimpy armor, I didn't even use the word "women." I never said anything about women wearing revealing robes or anything.
All I said was that if someone stabbed you randomly with a sword 9/10 the "skimpy armor" is better to have than mage robes. That's it.
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CrookedAsylum wrote...
dislye wrote...
You know, I ACTUALLY like this idea. If a person is going to wear little armor then have a good reason for them not to. Although if a player wanted their character to be someone who thought armor was for wimps that would also be reason enough. I don't to much care for the scantily-clad armors (male or female) but I don't think it's bad to have in the game. It's no reason for anyone to get upset really; if you do not like that armor don't wear it. Some people like skimpy armor, why should they not have some things in the game for them? Anyway, this is a neat idea and should be implemented into future titles, whether some people agree with it or not.
The good folk at Bioware generally disagree. I forget who said it, but one of the devs didn't much like the idea of the bikini plate mail armor.
My OP was never about plate bikinis, but about giving warriors an extra option based with a bit of justification for it. Like I said earlier, the picts and celts beleived that their woad warpaint gave them magical protection, and this is already in the game in the form of Kaddis for the Mubaris. I've also thrown the beserker thing in there for extra variety.
Ok, it might result in a bit of flesh, but what's the big deal? Warrior/heroic epics have always had a good measure of rippling abs and slab-like pecs in them. Do we have some sort of double standard where we can't see a female warrior physique without wanting to throw a blanket over it? Seems a bit chauvenistic, if you ask me.
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Dave of Canada wrote...
And then complain about skimpy armor...wow seriously.
I'll complain about it because people are being immature and want eye candy for the sake of eye candy. I want to be treated as an adult, not some hormone controlled teenager.
Already unacceptable.
Modifié par NKKKK, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:35 .
NKKKK wrote...
When done gratuitously and only for fanservice, I don't want to see it. Women play this game too. You can have your fanservice in the form of Morrigans and Mirandas. I don't think armor should be skimpy just because guys get greedy with their fanservice. You want fanservice? Go play DOA.
Um, no. You selfish person. Look at your tone. It's basically saying "**** you". Common decency and modesty? Who gives a **** about that? Especially in video games. I play these things because the stupid **** that we see in real life aren't there.
Choices. Let the player have a choice of letting their femhawks and companions have loin clothes and fur bras. Just like girls have the right to play a man hawke with no top and washboard abs.
These are both at the Dev's discretion however.
Modifié par Saibh, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:35 .
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Saibh wrote...
I do recall you being the person who made, like, four posts about how "OMG HERE COME THE RAGING FANGIRLS US MEN WHO ARE SANE DUCK AND COVER!". You were trying to pick a fight from the get-go.
I do think, for the sake of argument, that if they were to have
chainmail bikinis, then they could have equivalent shirtless Conan the
Barbarian-esque "armors" for males. So I dunno about it being a gender
issue.
Modifié par NKKKK, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:41 .
filaminstrel wrote...
As has been said, you have mabaris wearing no armor, mages wearing robes, and dragons who should rightfully be able to obliterate you in one blow, so why is it okay to accept these unrealisms for the sake of gameplay, but not a person in a chainmail bikini surviving a sword swing?.
I object to the bikini having an armor rating like it's an actual suit of armor. If it doesn't, that's fine. I support the right of players to gimp their characters any way they want to.
NKKKK wrote...
But at least we got bigger boobs in the game. Whether every female has them, or just some that is yet to be seen.
AlanC9 wrote...
filaminstrel wrote...
As has been said, you have mabaris wearing no armor, mages wearing robes, and dragons who should rightfully be able to obliterate you in one blow, so why is it okay to accept these unrealisms for the sake of gameplay, but not a person in a chainmail bikini surviving a sword swing?.
I object to the bikini having an armor rating like it's an actual suit of armor. If it doesn't, that's fine. I support the right of players to gimp their characters any way they want to.
ooh, can i join in?CrookedAsylum wrote...
How very lovely. This well-composed argument, both tactful and respectful, urges me to listen to NKKKK's ideas with an open mind, and not treat him like a young child. Later, I shall offer him tea and biscuits.
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AlanC9 wrote...
filaminstrel wrote...
As has been said, you have mabaris wearing no armor, mages wearing robes, and dragons who should rightfully be able to obliterate you in one blow, so why is it okay to accept these unrealisms for the sake of gameplay, but not a person in a chainmail bikini surviving a sword swing?.
I object to the bikini having an armor rating like it's an actual suit of armor. If it doesn't, that's fine. I support the right of players to gimp their characters any way they want to.
Modifié par filaminstrel, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:47 .
I don't think the two are very equivalent. I don't follow the Conan universe, but I'd assume that his people did not have advanced metal working capabilities? Someone mentioned earlier that such loose garb would be logically acceptable on a Chasind, both male as well as female, so the "Conan" equivalent would be underclothed Chasind.filaminstrel wrote...
I do think, for the sake of argument, that if they were to have chainmail bikinis, then they could have equivalent shirtless Conan the Barbarian-esque "armors" for males. So I dunno about it being a gender issue.
Sure, why not. Personally, I just dislike it when something skimpy has the best ratings in the game forcing me to wear it. Fanservice should not come at the expense of gameplay. I remember KotOR2 had the dancer's outfit that would give a charisma bonus (possibly just to men, IIRC). If you know what I mean. I was okay with that. Of course it was for fanservice, but I didn't need to wear it, and if guys wanted to use it to ogle at the women, fine, whatever. It wasn't interfering with my enjoyment of the game.
Modifié par MerrickShep, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:51 .
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