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here is a video of the stream on pax.



move the video up to 5:05, that is the templar armor but male hawke warrior was using something pretty similar.





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nightcobra8928 wrote...

agreed, to top it off the sword in the DA2 video is sten's sword asala.

and then mike teased us that we will see that sword in the game (asala was specifically made for sten).


For the record, Asala uses the exact same model as the standard qunari greatsword. So no reason to go ZOMG SACRILEGE. Also, do we have confirmation that it is a qunari sword? Doesn't make a lot of sense for a Lothering villager to have a Qunari sword. Either way, it looks damn cool. Hawke shouldn't twirl it like a baton, but still.

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shepard_lives wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

agreed, to top it off the sword in the DA2 video is sten's sword asala.

and then mike teased us that we will see that sword in the game (asala was specifically made for sten).


For the record, Asala uses the exact same model as the standard qunari greatsword. So no reason to go ZOMG SACRILEGE. Also, do we have confirmation that it is a qunari sword? Doesn't make a lot of sense for a Lothering villager to have a Qunari sword. Either way, it looks damn cool. Hawke shouldn't twirl it like a baton, but still.


sorry didn't know they used the same model, by the time i had one it's stats were lower than what i had so i never used it. 

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Dear Herr Uhl, it seems a common habbit to try to balance someone off in a discussion by making comments about language use, grammar, spelling.... But you raised the bar to new hights by including... ellipses... Don't do it. You are smart and it doesn't suit you.


It isn't that, ellipsises are a pet peeve of mine. I've read a few of her/his posts and it was starting to annoy me.

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Forum: Show us footage!


Mike Laidlaw: We will, but we want to put something special together.


Forum: Just show us the demo footage


Mike Laidlaw: The demo footage is an exaggeration of gameplay and isn't completely optimized.


Forum: But you're showing it at the demos.


Mike Laidlaw: But the demos have someone there reminding people that it's not completely optimized and that it's from the exaggerated portion.

Forum: C'mon Mike we know that. We won't freak out we promise.



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Alodar wrote...



Forum: C'mon Mike we know that. We won't freak out we promise.



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Irony...Thy Name is Wonderful.

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Morroian wrote...

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Again, what else is there to go on? I'm going by what I'm seeing.


Well you could take into account that this is an isolated action scene from a purposefully exaggerrated part of the game on a console. If you think Bioware will skimp on the story then you obviously don't know Bioware.

Combat has been sped up but in DAO combat as a 2H warrior was pretty bad. I don't think I'll be missing dual wield on warriors.


My fear is that there will be a great story with great characters trapped within gameplay mechanics that I will ultimately not enjoy dealing with. In short that I will love the story elements but hate the actual game they exist within. I full well agree that DA:O wasn't optimal in all areas, but I liked the slower paced more tactical approach the game needed on the PC. And again, I'm well aware that console players missed out on that, which is a shame but it's a technical thing.

Let me put it as clear as I can: For me, DA2's value will come from finding out whether or not the PC version is the same kind of real-time hack n slash with powers combat that the console versions are getting. If the PC version is being gutted to accomodate that then yes, that is a deal breaker. As it is, I still don't know whether or not this is the case and I eagerly await some proper PC version footage.

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Jesus! What is it with the comments on GT? They are saying that the combat looks more dull than the first ones system? Seriously?



On another note, I really like the design of the weapons and clothes. Hoping that they release an official in-game trailer soon.

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Wow. Lady Hawke looked awesome in that video. I'm impressed. I might have to play a 2-Hander Lady Hawke on my second playthrough of the game ^,^



Also, I really like the 2-Hander's close range AOE slashes. I'm really looking forward to playing one but just like in Origins, the first run through is reserved for an Archer.

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Monica83 wrote...

Again with this call people doomsayers... its silly and its not funny grew up kidz


Now this is funny. 

So says the little child that speaks of "God Dragon Effect". It would be fun in another circumstance, but all in all is just a silly evidence of how little you know even about yourself.

Modifié par Amioran, 28 septembre 2010 - 03:55 .


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I believe that the new graphic looks awsome.....so much better then DA:O....

The only thing that I find annoying is, that in this video it seems hard to keep track on what your companion are doing (ever harder when there are 3 companions) but I guess that It will be easier when the tactial camera is finished

Modifié par Rm80, 28 septembre 2010 - 03:54 .


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Monica83 wrote...

I seen also some the witcher 2 gameplay video... And i appreciate much more the style and animations of the witcher 2 than the ones of dragon age 2.. So yes.. Geralt moves looks way better than the dragon age two moves..


So you find The Wither 2 fine while you don't DA2. And you speak about old rpgs as if you really have a point. Really, child, you have some mixed up ideas on your mind. For me you don't either understand what you are complaining about. If there is an "hack n slash" style in rpgs is just The Witcher. It is the most near gameplay to the combos one.

You truly have no idea of what you are babbling about.

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Monica83 wrote...

Marshall you have to undearsteand this.. For some people roleplay games are not only videogames but are a passion like painting or read..


And these people usually know of what they are talking about. They don't cry "idiocy" at the first thing that changes what they think is "correct" without understanding the meanings behind the changes.

Usually people having passions know a lot about them. They don't just judge thing by emotional sprouts witthout motivation, nor they assume wrong things just because it is more easy to do that. They can have preferences, but those that have real passions are also open to changes and to things that are different from their personal tastes.

What you call "passion" is different than what you think you have.

Modifié par Amioran, 28 septembre 2010 - 03:57 .


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Amioran if you dont stop to quote me i WILL report you im tired im ignoring you stop to QUOTE me ok?

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

oho, i have set my hands on a real claymore on my stay in italy and i quite like swordcraft. but for a fantasy game i like to see swords and weapons that would not necessarily be realistic and see the artist's creativity in their designs. 


For a game like DA2, I prefer my fantasy grounded in reality.

over-sized swrods belong in JRPG's and other non-serous games.


Japan made games aren't serious?

This is news to me.

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All I can say is I hope that was really, really, really, really over the top. If it plays anything near that at the end game with mindless hacking and slashing I'll be sorely disappointed.

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Monica83 wrote...

Amioran if you dont stop to quote me i WILL report you im tired im ignoring you stop to QUOTE me ok?


Then talk correctly and don't say idiocies. You just continue telling stupidities, everywhere. And what's worse is that you don't call that opinions but facts. At last bring some evidence of what you are talking about, as others do.

Report me if you like. I don't care. But before all else know that when you talk about arguments as facts you should have some background of what you are speaking about. Try to go in a literature forum saying for example that Bret Aston Ellis is crap, see how they will react. Still Aston Ellis is completely different from literature of the past, yet nobody talks of him as the worst thing ever happened, because that's not true.

There are many doomsayers here, some intelligent and some not. If you don't want to be pestered by me then starting saying something intelligent and try to have an intelligent argument instead of continuing posting things that have no bearing on reality. Having and opinion is not enough. After a while you bother with all your continue insults at everything, without either trying to understand what you are complaing about. For a while it works, after some more it becomes tedious.

But don't worry, in a while I will just bother of you since there's nothing to talk about. You try to act as an adult, yet behave as a teenager. Make up your mind.

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dheer wrote...

All I can say is I hope that was really, really, really, really over the top. If it plays anything near that at the end game with mindless hacking and slashing I'll be sorely disappointed.


that would be the equivalent of taking on the archdemon using nothing but auto attack. you can try but you'll die....a lot.

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Not that anyone cares in this sea of opinions but here are my thoughts...

Criticisms:

- LadyHawke swinging a greatsword in that way with one-hand is beyond believability. She should have buried it into her own very thin waist.

- The click and attack gameplay makes me worry about how tactical Dragon Age 2 combat will be in practice. Instant attacks make action ques bothersome.

Compliments:

- The graphics are coming along nicely. The game already looks more vibrant than Origins did. Hopefully we will not see a return of ugly random low resolution textures too.

- The combat, while seemingly poorly suited to tactical gameplay did look nice to me. If Dragon Age 2 turns out to be more of an action RPG I will be disappointed, but I can accept it. More so if said action actually looks exciting. After seeing the slooow greatsword in the first game it was a joy to see swift swings, and yes, even the anime inspired dashing swipes.

There is nothing else to write about the video; brief as it was. The exploding darkspawn were definitely silly but that is clearly not the norm. On the whole this made me slightly more excited about Dragon Age 2. The changes do appear to veer away from traditional RPG combat, but that is not a deal-breaker for me.

Modifié par Seagloom, 28 septembre 2010 - 04:08 .


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Amioran wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

I seen also some the witcher 2 gameplay video... And i appreciate much more the style and animations of the witcher 2 than the ones of dragon age 2.. So yes.. Geralt moves looks way better than the dragon age two moves..


So you find The Wither 2 fine while you don't DA2. And you speak about old rpgs as if you really have a point. Really, child, you have some mixed up ideas on your mind. For me you don't either understand what you are complaining about. If there is an "hack n slash" style in rpgs is just The Witcher. It is the most near gameplay to the combos one.

You truly have no idea of what you are babbling about.


Depends on your definition of h&s. To me Witcher combat was halfway to Gothic, and it wasn´t a combat fest like let´s say Sacred or Divine Divinity (to give an example of a game with actual plot). TW2 looks a lot like Gothic combat system.

Back to DA, it is feared it will feel too different even without the exaggerating thing. Is a console player who enjoyed Origins combat stucked now with button mashing in any fight? We are having this threads every other week, whenever we see some little bit of new footage there´s somehing a lot of us don´t like. Here I am concerned about how  2H swords are used. At least I hope someone in the dev team has read Berserk to see how you exaggerate  without (most of the time) throwing verisimilitude out.

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Haven't read the whole thread, so I don't know if it's been mentioned, but I liked the look of the mini-map without the huge border and black background.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Amioran wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

I seen also some the witcher 2 gameplay video... And i appreciate much more the style and animations of the witcher 2 than the ones of dragon age 2.. So yes.. Geralt moves looks way better than the dragon age two moves..


So you find The Wither 2 fine while you don't DA2. And you speak about old rpgs as if you really have a point. Really, child, you have some mixed up ideas on your mind. For me you don't either understand what you are complaining about. If there is an "hack n slash" style in rpgs is just The Witcher. It is the most near gameplay to the combos one.

You truly have no idea of what you are babbling about.


Depends on your definition of h&s. To me Witcher combat was halfway to Gothic, and it wasn´t a combat fest like let´s say Sacred or Divine Divinity (to give an example of a game with actual plot). TW2 looks a lot like Gothic combat system.

Back to DA, it is feared it will feel too different even without the exaggerating thing. Is a console player who enjoyed Origins combat stucked now with button mashing in any fight? We are having this threads every other week, whenever we see some little bit of new footage there´s somehing a lot of us don´t like. Here I am concerned about how  2H swords are used. At least I hope someone in the dev team has read Berserk to see how you exaggerate  without (most of the time) throwing verisimilitude out.


off the record, i was really pleased when i first saw lady hawke. to me she looks like a light skinned blue eyed caska:whistle: or a possible daughter of gutts and caska as it were.

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I am very curious wether the PC-version will look like this. If it does, my worst fears have been surpassed. THAT looked like any given console-combat game, and no way I'm going to waste time or money on that.



I hope, I cross my fingers, I really, really wish that is not how actual combat will look on PC.

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TMZuk wrote...

I am very curious wether the PC-version will look like this. If it does, my worst fears have been surpassed. THAT looked like any given console-combat game, and no way I'm going to waste time or money on that. 


I might still get it. I'm more interested in the story, anyway. Although finding a new series to follow wouldn;t be such a bad thing.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...


off the record, i was really pleased when i first saw lady hawke. to me she looks like a light skinned blue eyed caska:whistle: or a possible daughter of gutts and caska as it were.


Just change skin and eyes, and we´ve got Caska (that´s the English spelling? It´s a bit different in Spanish to avoid a double entendre). Happy coincidence.