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joriandrake wrote...

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Hmmm.....oh my...


Yes, exactly this

Do you not see his later comment? That is not a good, happy sort of "Hmmm.....oh my..."

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Herr Uhl wrote...

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Found this video, don't know if it's been posted yet, so sorry if I'm tardy to the party.

Looks like that's not the exaggerated portion. Still, I'm content with the combat.


Odd that he changes armor when they pan to the other game.


It's a starting armor and I think that's 'normal'.


I meant that it went that fast. They pan at 18 and come back at 26, with him wearing another armor. And using a different sword.


AHHHHHH.... I hadn't noticed they changed the armor IN THAT PLAY.

Well... in that case... they just... changed the armor...

Like you would regularly.

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SirShreK wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

The Director wrote...

For some reason I thought simply "Dynasty Warriors meets Dragon Age" and I smiled....


Yes, some think that is bad, majority thinks that is great. :D


:P You are a smart guy Joriandrake.


arigato


I like that actual cmbat is faster paced, and not boring to look at, at the same time I hope pausing and camera use will be the same as in DA1, I hate combat the most in RPG-s and always try to rush through it the fastest possible way, what I like in an RPG is the possibilities to costumize your own character and influence the world around you, and the intrigues, oh yes, most of the greatest pnp campaigns I had were those which had near zero battles and intricate webs of story and alligances

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joriandrake wrote...

Kajros wrote...

Everyone has to realize they are playing it on an XBOX 360 so gameplay versus the PC version will be considerably different. T

a dev said this is untrue somewhere in this thread


Yeah I think Laidlaw elluded to it. Probably the only difference will be the UI and controls of course, I would'nt expect much diversion as far as game mechanics go.

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Kerilus wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Hmmm.....oh my...


Yes, exactly this

Do you not see his later comment? That is not a good, happy sort of "Hmmm.....oh my..."

I decided to ignore that second comment, feels better that way =]

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joriandrake wrote...

Kerilus wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Hmmm.....oh my...


Yes, exactly this

Do you not see his later comment? That is not a good, happy sort of "Hmmm.....oh my..."

I decided to ignore that second comment, feels better that way =]

Then I suggest you remove his quote in your post. That is a bit disrespectful to his opinion. Don't you think so?

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so we have...

Paraphrase system ala mass effect with tones

Anime style Animations..

Static classes only to keep them distinct...



*epic facepalm*

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filaminstrel wrote...

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I think this greatsword is a tad bigger than your typical greatsword... /understatement

Its a damn telephone pole.


Well, I did a size comparison earlier-- wasn't very good, so I tried again-- still isn't very good, but here it is anyway:

Image IPB

It doesn't actually seem that much bigger.


people just like to complain even about good things, it was already pointed out that the size of the sword is not unrealistic at all, still it stayed the the main issue to complain about for many, while others want even bigger and cooler swords

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Odd that he changes armor when they pan to the other game.

I think the player just switched to one of the companion characters, actually. :)

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Amioran wrote...

Her: I think Swinburne destroyed the point of view of christianity in "Paradise Lost"
Me: It is not Swinburne that wrote PL, it was Milton
Her: Swinburne really didn't understood the point of view of God.
Me: Actually Milton was a fervent catholic and tried to let others understand the pow of God, however Lucifer seems more human, just for this.
Her: Simply Swinburne takes the pow of Satan, he was obviously anti catholic
Me: PL always take the pow of God, Milton was utterly favorable to God. The more "human" aspect of Lucifer is inherent in the parable of the fallen god.
Her: Swinburne has exagerated the aspect, he didn't wrote things correctly, he was a satanist.
Me: No, MILTON was not a satanist, and anyway you don't get absolutely nothing of all the story behind PL. It is a replication of the bible, romanced, do you call the bible stanist? You don't really understand nothing do you?
Her: Stop bothering me. If you insist insulting I will report you.
Me: You have insulted me (and others) from the beginning. You never listened anything, you just said what you wanted without either caring. I would suggest you to make a video disabling comments if you just wanted to spread idiocies without others making you notice them.


Well I think this guy has just won his argument.


And that's all there is to it? Winning? You guys are disgusting.


I am? I'm just a guy who makes random comments on other people's Internet arguments. I find that entertaining. I simply liked the fact that he resorted to such an elaborate example to explain his point, and wanted to congratulate myself with him for that.
Now, I could start a discussion with you about what is the point of an argument (is it winning? is it sharing opinions? or something else?), and about which side is right in this case, and about why caring about winning this argument (and I don't care 'bout that at all!) would make me "disgusting"... but I don't feel like doing that. You misunderstood my post, I think. I don't give a good god damn about arguing over the Internet, I never have. But I think it's amusing to watch other people argue and comment on their efforts.
Good day to you!

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Amioran wrote...
Her: I think Swinburne destroyed the point of view of christianity in "Paradise Lost"
Me: It is not Swinburne that wrote PL, it was Milton
Her: Swinburne really didn't understood the point of view of God.
Me: Actually Milton was a fervent catholic and tried to let others understand the pow of God, however Lucifer seems more human, just for this.
Her: Simply Swinburne takes the pow of Satan, he was obviously anti catholic
Me: PL always take the pow of God, Milton was utterly favorable to God. The more "human" aspect of Lucifer is inherent in the parable of the fallen god.
Her: Swinburne has exagerated the aspect, he didn't wrote things correctly, he was a satanist.
Me: No, MILTON was not a satanist, and anyway you don't get absolutely nothing of all the story behind PL. It is a replication of the bible, romanced, do you call the bible stanist? You don't really understand nothing do you?


The funny thing about this is that while "Her" actual posts are nonsense, there is a real issue there. Satan does come off a heck of a lot better to a lot of folks than God did. Wasn't it Blake who said that Milton was on the Devil's side without knowing it?

So this dialogue above is obscuring the actual substance. That's on "Me" as well as "Her," since he doesn't try to find the sense amid the nonsense.

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Kerilus wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Kerilus wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Hmmm.....oh my...


Yes, exactly this

Do you not see his later comment? That is not a good, happy sort of "Hmmm.....oh my..."

I decided to ignore that second comment, feels better that way =]

Then I suggest you remove his quote in your post. That is a bit disrespectful to his opinion. Don't you think so?


those were two seperate comments and I only noticed the second one after I posted my own, so no, its his own fault that he didn't make a single post of his opinion, and was vague

Modifié par joriandrake, 28 septembre 2010 - 06:59 .


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JoePinasi1989 wrote...

It doesn't matter if it is the same size as Origins'. The point is it should be SMALLER. They've redone the anims, now it looks faster, plays faster, the sword 'feels' lighter, but it doesn't look as such.

Regardless of the animations, the justification for the weapons being so big in the first game was that they needed to be identifiable from the high tactical camera angle.

If the camera no longer zooms out as far (and by all accounts, it doesn't), then the need for the oversized weapons is now gone.

Even if DA2 played exactly like DAO, they should still have made the weapons smaller because the reason for their large size has gone away.

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Monica83 wrote...

so we have...
Paraphrase system ala mass effect with tones
Anime style Animations..
Static classes only to keep them distinct...

*epic facepalm*


Do you need to post that on every single page? I think your stance is abundantly clear.

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It is the contrast between Hawke's skinny body and the size of the sword. Also the speed and the size.

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Yes. She does need to post that on every page.

Modifié par AlanC9, 28 septembre 2010 - 07:01 .


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Monica83 wrote...

so we have...
Paraphrase system ala mass effect with tones
Anime style Animations..
Static classes only to keep them distinct...

*epic facepalm*

Some people might like what you describe there you know. Baldur's Gate was a long time ago, tastes have changed. Anime styles animations might have been their goal to start with. It's their desicion, you can like it or not but you should respect that other people might find the new combat and animations infinitely more cool and snappy than the older ones.

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JoePinasi1989 wrote...

sadLOL


That was unwarranted.

It doesn't matter if it is the same size as Origins'. The point is it should be SMALLER. They've redone the anims, now it looks faster, plays faster, the sword 'feels' lighter, but it doesn't look as such.


Fair enough. That seems unlikely though. Them making the sword smaller.

It is true that one could argue the Origins weapons were already overly large, but I think it's useful, at least, to keep things in perspective and note that it was a telephone pole in both games.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

It doesn't matter if it is the same size as Origins'. The point is it should be SMALLER. They've redone the anims, now it looks faster, plays faster, the sword 'feels' lighter, but it doesn't look as such.

Regardless of the animations, the justification for the weapons being so big in the first game was that they needed to be identifiable from the high tactical camera angle.

If the camera no longer zooms out as far (and by all accounts, it doesn't), then the need for the oversized weapons is now gone.

Even if DA2 played exactly like DAO, they should still have made the weapons smaller because the reason for their large size has gone away.


Well... I completely agree.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

so we have...
Paraphrase system ala mass effect with tones
Anime style Animations..
Static classes only to keep them distinct...

*epic facepalm*


Do you need to post that on every single page? I think your stance is abundantly clear.


Exactly, most of the people who like the changes don't say the same thing about liking the direction of getting closer to eastern RPG and anime neither

AlanC9 wrote...

Yes. She does need to post that on every page.

that is called "spam"




Anyway, any clue how Wesley being tainted will affect the story? I know it is not directly related to the topic but anyhow, my guess is he will kill his own wife later on as the taint spreads.

Modifié par joriandrake, 28 septembre 2010 - 07:03 .


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AlanC9 wrote...
So this dialogue above is obscuring the actual substance. That's on "Me" as well as "Her," since he doesn't try to find the sense amid the nonsense.


Done purposedly. Isn't she doing this all the time? Actually it was the reason of the sketch. And the "me" part is anticipating the nonsense, it is only that the "her" part don't get it because she doesn't listen (again, it happens all the time).

And yes, it was Blake that said that of Milton. But Milton really wanted to make a book where God was seen as the good guy, however just because he tried making him so perfect, the result obtained was the contrary, and the result seemed more a book from the pow of Satan. Sometimes these thing happens, either unwillingly or unconsciously.

As for Swinburne it was a joke, since he was (contrarily to Milton) anti catholic. A little pun ;-)

Modifié par Amioran, 28 septembre 2010 - 07:05 .


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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

It doesn't matter if it is the same size as Origins'. The point is it should be SMALLER. They've redone the anims, now it looks faster, plays faster, the sword 'feels' lighter, but it doesn't look as such.

Regardless of the animations, the justification for the weapons being so big in the first game was that they needed to be identifiable from the high tactical camera angle.

If the camera no longer zooms out as far (and by all accounts, it doesn't), then the need for the oversized weapons is now gone.

Even if DA2 played exactly like DAO, they should still have made the weapons smaller because the reason for their large size has gone away.


Unless they liked them like that? This is their game, they shouldn't have to do a damn thing they dont want to.

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sadLOL


That was unwarranted.


I feel kinda stupid commenting on this but that was just my expressing a reaction. Nothing more, nothing less.

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joriandrake wrote...

Anyway, and clue how Wesley being tainted will affect the story? I know it is not directly related to the topic but anyhow, my guess is he will kill his own wife later on as the taint spreads.


I believe that Wesley will die no matter what. Either You or Aveline WILL kill him. Romance with Aveline will requie one of the choices as a must.

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joriandrake wrote...

Kerilus wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Kerilus wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Hmmm.....oh my...


Yes, exactly this

Do you not see his later comment? That is not a good, happy sort of "Hmmm.....oh my..."

I decided to ignore that second comment, feels better that way =]

Then I suggest you remove his quote in your post. That is a bit disrespectful to his opinion. Don't you think so?


those were two seperate comments and I only noticed the second one after I posted my own, so no, its his own fault that he didn't make a single post of his opinion, and was vague

So even after you realized his true opinion, you still persist with intentionally misinterpreting his view? Just for the sake that it "was" vague? My, are you a nice person.