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[AtreiyaN7]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

I'm like laudanum.

Hmm, I may have to cram that one into my signature! Then again, maybe I'm partial to it because I had to take pain pills after an emergency room visit a while back. *snicker* Let me tell you, a surprise gallbladder attack is a very, very unpleasant thing! 

[WilliamShatner]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

The Lyons wrote...
Um, okay? So, what you are saying is that DA 2 isn't a hack and slash because you have to change armor and use abilities? Well, all my fears are assuaged, gentlemen. 

No disrespect meant, of course. But I don't think that word means what you think it means.

RPG is something of a continuum, isn't it? I mean, is DAO a hack and slash? Is Fable? Is Gothic? Is Oblivion? I dunno! Because I don't have a hard and fast definition.

To me, having inventory and abilities, rather than move chains is, in fact, what sets an RPG apart from a brawler. For you, it is clearly something different. Perhaps if you told me what that one thing that would set the two apart is, I could actually calm your unsteadied nerves.

I'm like laudanum.

The Dynasty Warriors series is hack n'slash.

They contain inventory, abilities and a leveling up system.

I have never heard anyone refer to them as RPGs.

Modifié par WilliamShatner, 29 septembre 2010 - 05:59 .

[Dave of Canada]

WilliamShatner wrote...

The Dynasty Warriors series is hack n'slash.

They contain inventory, abilities and a leveling up system.

I have never heard anyone refer to them as RPGs.

I typed in "Dynasty Warrior RPG" on my search bar and I've found a few threads.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Weirdly enough the part that struck me first was the look of the UI. It's like the awesome sharp geometric new look of the armor carried over into the display. Cool stuff 8D

[habitat 67]

I always thought of Dynasty Warriors as a RPG.

[WilliamShatner]

Dave of Canada wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

The Dynasty Warriors series is hack n'slash.

They contain inventory, abilities and a leveling up system.

I have never heard anyone refer to them as RPGs.

I typed in "Dynasty Warrior RPG" on my search bar and I've found a few threads.

Well you'll find anything on the Internet.

From what I could see after typing it into google were pages from people who wanted a DW RPG, not that they are calling the current games RPGs.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I remember back when Dynasty Warriors were suppose to be some twisted sort of Strategy game. The Empire games kind of are in a way actually. Like Total War except instead of a RTS component they have what basically is the Onslaught mode from UT2004 with the standard hack and slash combat

[Bryy_Miller]

Merkicus wrote...

 David,

I'm really let down.

Okay.
David Gaider is just the writer.

If you are so inclined to be placing blame on the "head guy", then you would blame Mike, as he is higher up on the food chain. I am not endorsing blaming any of the dev team at all. I'm just saying (for the billionth time) that David Gaider does not make the game single-handedly in his basement.

Merkicus wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Merkicus wrote...

I just hope it's EA pushing you to this - pushing for more console sales and dumbing down the game to be more palatable on consoles.

EA doesn't go into the Bioware offices and say "Alright, remove X feature and do X feature.".

Maybe not.

But I'd really like to *believe* that it isn't our Bioware guys responsible for ...this. 

I love how you come to the conclusion that the entire game is going to suck based off a few minutes of bootleg video. Will it most likely look and play as like we saw? Yes. But come on. Saying the entire game is going to suck?

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 29 septembre 2010 - 06:33 .

[ProfessionalPirate]

Well since I hear that the general tone for bioware's games is positive from a lot of people I really think that DA2 will be a great game cause bioware made it. As Flemeth said.
"only a fool ignores history" Keep it up bioware!!

please no derisive comments after this. it really kills the mood 

Modifié par ProfessionalPirate, 29 septembre 2010 - 06:56 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I've come to the conclusion that the following statement pretty much sums up the reaction some people have given to this leaked video footage.

"Change is coming to the world. Many people fear change and will fight it with every fibre of their being. But sometimes change is what they need most. Sometimes change sets them free."

Some people are seriously making a mountain out of a molehill, judging a game that isn't due out for at least 5 more months on 1 minute and 45 seconds of out of context, not fully optimised gameplay footage?

*goes and puts Bowie on*

Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-changes!

[nightcobra]

Dave of Canada wrote...

KhorinShizucor wrote...

 Someone who played the demo said that the warrior armor looks different after the exaggerated parts. Is this how it looks?

Those are the King Cailan Pyjamas so...  yes that's the non-exaggerated armor.

they've been updated dave:whistle: they showed the new armor on pax live stream. no more pajamas:D

[MerinTB]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I've come to the conclusion that the following statement pretty much sums up the reaction some people have given to this leaked video footage.
"Change is coming to the world. Many people fear change and will fight it with every fibre of their being. But sometimes change is what they need most. Sometimes change sets them free."
Some people are seriously making a mountain out of a molehill, judging a game that isn't due out for at least 5 more months on 1 minute and 45 seconds of out of context, not fully optimised gameplay footage?

I think a better summary is that a good majority of the posts could be summed up in, roughly, two camps -

Camp One - people who see Dragon Age 2 tidbits being revealed and fear it'll be a game they won't enjoy
Camp Two - people who see Dragon Age 2 tidbits being revealed and think they will love the game

You can find indifferent and undecided people who don't fit in either camp, and all ranges of people inside each camp...

but dismissively saying "they don't like it - they fear change, and they need the change regardless" is not only inaccurate, unfair, and somewhat insulting...

it flies in the face of many facts:

1 - many of the people who don't like the footage, the dialog wheel, whatever, have mentioned and would freely mention more things they didn't like about DA:O that they would love to see (*gasp, no, it'll destroy the meme being presented!*) changed.
2 - some people who don't like what they are seeing also didn't like DA:O.
3 - the changes are not "new" - many are just being cannabilized from previous BioWare games, and others game mechanics are being added that have been around for quite some time (relative to how long video games have been around, at least) making them not improvements based on progress but design decisions based on tried and true systems or currently popular game elements - meaning they could look further back or be innovative, but (long story short) people cannot be afraid of changes if they are really just switched to very established and existing things (no surprises, no unknowns, no mysteries, to fear.)


I could list things I'd love to see changed from DA:O that I didn't like (limited to 4 party members at a time, mages having far too many options as compared to the other two classes, the limited economy)...
... things that have been told to us are being changed that I am glad are being changed (the inventory system, the party camp dynamic, travel time)...
... as well as things that are definitely or potentially being changed that I do not want to see changed (voiced PC and dialog wheel, console focus on build (even the "joint focus / set to be released all at the same time" they tell us is what they are doing), faster-paced (I read as "hectic" and "more intense than I wish" - yes, I'd love true turn-based to return and THAT'd be a change for BioWare), only one origin, "hot-rodded" art, more limited (possibly scrapped if they can't get it working by release time) tactical camera)

So stop generalizing, marginalizing and dismissing people who just have different tastes and views than you.

Modifié par MerinTB, 29 septembre 2010 - 07:16 .

[Suicider_11]

Thanks for the clarification Mike. Aside from the Exaggerated mode which i enjoyed watching, I'm really curious about the difficulty levels of the non-exaggerated mode you discussed where we will encounter better enemy AI in DA2. Anyway, will friendly fire be on Nightmare only?



Keep it up guys

[Heavenblade]

I love Dynasty Warriors. I've always wandered what a more RPG-like Dynasty Warriors would be like.



I don't mind fast gameplay at all. DAO was painfully slow and unresponsive.

[WilliamShatner]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I've come to the conclusion that the following statement pretty much sums up the reaction some people have given to this leaked video footage.
"Change is coming to the world. Many people fear change and will fight it with every fibre of their being. But sometimes change is what they need most. Sometimes change sets them free."
Some people are seriously making a mountain out of a molehill, judging a game that isn't due out for at least 5 more months on 1 minute and 45 seconds of out of context, not fully optimised gameplay footage?
*goes and puts Bowie on*
Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-changes!

*Puts Cyndi Lauper on*

Money changes everything

Money, money changes everything

We think we know what we're doin'

That don't mean a thing

It's all in the past now

Money changes everything

[Monica83]

Bha... im still watching those videos and i hate those nosense manga like animations

[Shappy1010]

That gameplay trailer was an absolute disgrace to Bioware's reputation given their history.

Change or no change, I'm not gonna buy bloody God of War, so Bioware won't see a penny of me. Given the backlash on this forum and the negative rating on gametrailers whilst the movie was up, I sincerely don't see this selling a great deal, if that is indeed the goal.

[Anarya]

Shappy1010 wrote...

That gameplay trailer was an absolute disgrace to Bioware's reputation given their history.
Change or no change, I'm not gonna buy bloody God of War, so Bioware won't see a penny of me. Given the backlash on this forum and the negative rating on gametrailers whilst the movie was up, I sincerely don't see this selling a great deal, if that is indeed the goal.

Well it's a good thing Bioware isn't making God of War then, isn't it?

[ProfessionalPirate]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I've come to the conclusion that the following statement pretty much sums up the reaction some people have given to this leaked video footage.
"Change is coming to the world. Many people fear change and will fight it with every fibre of their being. But sometimes change is what they need most. Sometimes change sets them free."
Some people are seriously making a mountain out of a molehill, judging a game that isn't due out for at least 5 more months on 1 minute and 45 seconds of out of context, not fully optimised gameplay footage?
*goes and puts Bowie on*
Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-changes!

*Puts Cyndi Lauper on*

Money changes everything

Money, money changes everything

We think we know what we're doin'

That don't mean a thing

It's all in the past now

Money changes everything

lol  
here have your very own tiger
*gives rock*

uhhh... thats a rock not a tiger

*hands over $ 1,000,000*

gee whizz i sure hope it doesn't maul me

ahh well maby i am too tired and should retire for the night.... errr early morning
btw chuck norris handed the rock and money to some random stranger

[Dave of Canada]

Shappy1010 wrote...

That gameplay trailer was an absolute disgrace to Bioware's reputation given their history.
Change or no change, I'm not gonna buy bloody God of War, so Bioware won't see a penny of me. Given the backlash on this forum and the negative rating on gametrailers whilst the movie was up, I sincerely don't see this selling a great deal, if that is indeed the goal.

Remember to apologize when you come back through the door you just slammed.

[Monica83]

When i eared they improve animation i hoped they maded nice looking and more realistic ones... But with those anims i don't see anything improved..Those moves have no sense.. And are horrid and demential.. Like a c series japanase game or moo i seen similiar anims on many game.. Most of them in game like devil may cry or also in aion or lineage 2... I played also dinasty warriors and the animation are really similiar to dragon age 2 ones..



Improved? yes improved do be horrible...

[Anarya]

If I were less lazy I'd count the number of times "Devil May Cry" and "God of War" have been namedropped in this thread and I bet the total would be pretty funny.

Modifié par Anarya, 29 septembre 2010 - 08:00 .

[Morroian]

Monica83 wrote...

When i eared they improve animation i hoped they maded nice looking and more realistic ones... But with those anims i don't see anything improved..Those moves have no sense.. And are horrid and demential.. Like a c series japanase game or moo i seen similiar anims on many game.. Most of them in game like devil may cry or also in aion or lineage 2... I played also dinasty warriors and the animation are really similiar to dragon age 2 ones..

Improved? yes improved do be horrible...

OK now try to say something you haven't said dozens of times before.

[Monica83]

maybe because anims are too much similiar to those games?

For:morroian: Blah blah blah wathever

Modifié par Monica83, 29 septembre 2010 - 08:07 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Merin, considering your current signature, I find your 2nd 'fact' to be a bit silly.

How many more times do you need Mike Laidlaw to tell you that the GUI and controls for the PC are different from the Console? How many more times does he need to re-affirm that they are working on both the PC and console versions equally?

I've played both the PC and PS3 versions of DAO and know there is enough difference between the two to state that they didn't focus on one and then port it to the other. Do I have a favourite out of the 2? Probably the PC version, although there were some things about the PS3 version I liked better.

Also with regards the 'change' quote. I am fully aware that some people don't like the idea of the dialog wheel or the voiced main, were they in the demo? No... the change comment was purely aimed at the people jumping up and down about the gameplay footage. The shuffle that was in DAO seriously needed fixing, they've already stated that they are still working on the new changes they've made to eliminate that and will no doubt take into account what has been said on this topic, but as they've also pointed out, that gameplay footage isn't the finished article.

As for your 'camps' am in neither as am not going to pass my judgement on the game until much closer to the release date when we've got far more facts than just a few 'tidbits'. Don't get me wrong I do understand why people end up in those camps, although I really do have to wonder why anyone who totally and utterly hated DAO is going to think of giving DA2 a look in, or more to the point stick around once they see that whatever made them not like DAO at all is still going to be most likely there in DA2. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but it speaks volumes about them if they are going to remain in the discussion groups for a game they don't like. Certainly isn't the sort of life I would want to leave, I'd rather concentrate on things I DO like.

But as you said, everyone is entitled to their views.

Edit: @Anarya It's a meme thing am guessing, people jumping onto the band wagon after someone first mentions it.
@Morroian do you really expect her to 'change' her tune? She definitly falls into that 'change' comment I mentioned earlier. A lost cause that isn't worth trying to argue with.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 29 septembre 2010 - 08:09 .