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[ScotGaymer]

Okay so I am wondering. Its played on my mind for a while now actually.

Why did Awakening not have the Dog? It doesnt make sense that the Warden Commander, Hero of Ferelden, would go somewhere without his faithful Mabari.

Okay it would have required a bit of extra writing for the Orlesian Warden but really would it have been so difficult to include him?

Anyone know the answer? Was It an oversight? Or did Bioware just not bother?

[ladydesire]

If you play the Witch Hunt DLC, Dog's absence is explained.

[TJPags]

Well, you get an explanation in WH, but you wouldn't have needed that if they'd just written Dog in. Would it have been so hard?

[ladydesire]

If they had wanted Dog in Awakening, they would have put him in; they chose not to.

[TJPags]

Well, of course.



And they should have.

[Gulaman]

TJPags wrote...

Well, you get an explanation in WH, but you wouldn't have needed that if they'd just written Dog in. Would it have been so hard?

I must have missed that explanation in WH. What was it?

[caradoc2000]

Gulaman wrote...

I must have missed that explanation in WH. What was it?

He was out making little mabari...

[ScotGaymer]

How stupid.

He couldnt have babies in Awakening at Virgils Keep where it would be semi safe for his pups? And considering the Mabari are supposedly bred wardogs it doesnt make sense for him to be in the wilds to breed.
It would be part of a breeding program that his master would put him into.

And extremely thin on the ground justification.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 28 septembre 2010 - 10:36 .

[Esbatty]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Gulaman wrote...

I must have missed that explanation in WH. What was it?

He was out making little mabari...

Makin' Old God Puppies it seems.

[Lord of Fangs]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

How stupid.

He couldnt have babies in Awakening at Virgils Keep where it would be semi safe for his pups? And considering the Mabari are supposedly bred wardogs it doesnt make sense for him to be in the wilds to breed.
It would be part of a breeding program that his master would put him into.

And extremely thin on the ground justification.

He isn't in the wilds. As was already said, if you play the Witch Hunt DLC, Dog's absence is explained.

[Sabariel]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

How stupid.

He couldnt have babies in Awakening at Virgils Keep where it would be semi safe for his pups? And considering the Mabari are supposedly bred wardogs it doesnt make sense for him to be in the wilds to breed.
It would be part of a breeding program that his master would put him into.

And extremely thin on the ground justification.

Dog spent the duration of Awakening in the Denerim Kennels making puppies. He wasn't anywhere near the wilds.

[ScotGaymer]

Still seems stupid to me. And tacked on.

[Sabariel]

How is that? There were very few Mabari left after the Blight. Dog is "a promising member of the breed". What is stupid about the Warden allowing Dog to have some "superhappyfuntime" and making some new Mabari pups along the way?

[gnomon7]

I think there's some sort of contest to label everything in Witch Hunt as lazy and wrong. Even the parts that make perfect sense must make sense for the Wrong Reasons.



Puppyproduction is serious business. My warden would have preferred to have been left out to stud too, but someone probably insisted he make himself useful.

[ScotGaymer]

Well it seems tacked on because why couldnt the mabari have been in the kennels in Vigils keep? I mean surely a castle like that has some. Okay so it explains why he wasnt "out with the Warden" but he IS the Wardens best friend; I really really dont see them parting like that.

It would make more sense for the commander of the grey to begin a breeding program of mabari for the Grey Wardens rather than allowing his faithful friend to be put out to stud for the Ferelden Army. That way we have The Mabari NPC at the keep.

I havent played Witch Hunt so I cant really comment on it it being a sucky DLC; but I dont particularily want to buy it or the Leliana DLC either. Neither really appeal to me (nor did Darkspawn chronicles).

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 28 septembre 2010 - 01:26 .

[Zy-El]

In Awakening, we got Oghren as a previous companion - or did you conveniently forget that. It sounds to me like bitter grapes that Dog got some "action" and your Warden didn't. Chill out!

Maybe you haven't been caught up on recent events. At the time of Awakening, there was only one active Grey Warden in all of Ferelden. Why risk the last Warden and the most "promising member of the breed" Mabari at a Keep which was recently overrun with Darkspawn? Denerim is far more secure and they have kennel masters who'd know how to breed Mabari. Vigil's Keep barely has enough to feed its own soldiers, much less equip them after getting recently stomped on.

So quit whining "I want my dog!" 

Modifié par Zy-El, 28 septembre 2010 - 04:22 .

[ScotGaymer]

Eh no mate it isnt sour grapes dont be disgusting.



My mother always said if you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all. And accordin to what the others said the reasoning for the Dog not being there is a rather flimsy one IMO.



Im allowed an opinion. And im allowed to ask questions.



If you cant handle that, if you cant respond civilly then I suggest in future you refrain from posting otherwise you may find yourself getting reported.

[Zy-El]

The smiley was meant to be a "tongue in cheek" - no offense intended.  ???  What's so disgusting about "sour grapes"??  It's a colloquial (sp?) term for bitterness.

I think I gave reasonable explanation as to why the Warden left Dog in Denerim. The Warden was probably approached by the kennel masters in Denerim and asked if they could borrow your mabari for stud. Why would you refuse?

Shortly afterwards, the King/Queen asks you to go to Vigil's Keep to take charge. Now, would you pull your Dog out of stud duties for a minor trip to the countryside? Is your Warden so insecure that he needs a dog to protect him or keep him warm (like a comfort blanket)?

Modifié par Zy-El, 28 septembre 2010 - 08:12 .

[Sabariel]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Well it seems tacked on because why couldnt the mabari have been in the kennels in Vigils keep? I mean surely a castle like that has some. Okay so it explains why he wasnt "out with the Warden" but he IS the Wardens best friend; I really really dont see them parting like that.

It would make more sense for the commander of the grey to begin a breeding program of mabari for the Grey Wardens rather than allowing his faithful friend to be put out to stud for the Ferelden Army. That way we have The Mabari NPC at the keep.

I havent played Witch Hunt so I cant really comment on it it being a sucky DLC; but I dont particularily want to buy it or the Leliana DLC either. Neither really appeal to me (nor did Darkspawn chronicles).

You mean the Keep that is either attacked or attacked and destroyed by the darkspawn? Not a good place for defensless puppies. And what qualifies the Warden to breed dogs anyway? Doesn't s/he have enough to deal with as well?

It makes perfect sense for the Warden to send his or her furry friend on a nice little vacation filled with wild kennel romps instead of more fighting and death.

[TJPags]

Well, you don't know that Vigil's Keep is going to be attacked until you get there, and it's being . . well, attacked.  Plus, it IS a wardog, you know.
Besides, aren't they supposed to bond to their master?  I'd think they'd WANT to travel with you.
Besides - dogs can have sex anywhere. 

[ladydesire]

That may be, but I don't recall seeing any Mabari anywhere in Amaranthine or the surrounding area.

[Crippledcarny]

Dog wasn't in Awakening because Awakening wasn't allowed to have nice things.

[Sabariel]

TJPags wrote...

Well, you don't know that Vigil's Keep is going to be attacked until you get there, and it's being . . well, attacked.  Plus, it IS a wardog, you know.
Besides, aren't they supposed to bond to their master?  I'd think they'd WANT to travel with you.
Besides - dogs can have sex anywhere. 

It is essentially a military fortress. Someone is going to attack it eventually

Like I said before, what qualifies the Warden to breed dogs anyway? And why would they want to add dog breeding onto the long list they already have to deal with: "Sorry Varel. I can't be in court today. I have to help my dog's harem give birth to a few litters of puppies."

As for wanting to travel with 'you' or days and days of kennel romps... I'd say Dog would be pretty happy with not seeing the Warden for a while XD

Modifié par Sabariel, 29 septembre 2010 - 01:33 .

[TJPags]

ladydesire wrote...

That may be, but I don't recall seeing any Mabari anywhere in Amaranthine or the surrounding area.

Damn Howe!!!!  Just another reason to not like him - no Mabari's in his Arling!!!

Sabariel wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Well, you don't know that Vigil's Keep is going to be attacked until you get there, and it's being . . well, attacked.  Plus, it IS a wardog, you know.
Besides, aren't they supposed to bond to their master?  I'd think they'd WANT to travel with you.
Besides - dogs can have sex anywhere. 

It is essentially a military fortress. Someone is going to attack it eventually

Like I said before, what qualifies the Warden to breed dogs anyway? And why would they want to add dog breeding onto the long list they already have to deal with: "Sorry Varel. I can't be in court today. I have to help my dog's harem give birth to a few litters of puppies."

As for wanting to travel with 'you' or days and days of kennel romps... I'd say Dog would be pretty happy with not seeing the Warden for a while XD

Nah, I'm sure someone else could have dealt with the birth.  You know, maybe that chick the wardens sent to handle the money?  She seems the motherly sort . . . . .

[mosdefinition]

people actually used the dog i never would have guessed i figured the dog was pointless like the golem