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Okay...... why I'll romance aliens?  It's already been said that it's the personalities that define the character.  That being said, allow me to go through each human character:

Ash - She's not bad; maybe third on the LI list for me, but you would need to get past her distrust of aliens.
Kaiden - Too boring and never survives Virmire.
Miranda - As said earlier, she's an ice queen.  But, I'm always shown more beyond that and it's nice to see that she's an actual person under that uniform.  Still, her superiority attitude is a turn off.
Jack - A bit bi-polar for me.  Again, it would be nice to have some friendship options with crew members that you don't wish to romance.  Jack would be one of these.
Jacob - As a maleshep player, he's actually tolerable.  He's a nice, regular guy to chat with.  As a femshep....it's just too creepy how a femshep flirts with him.  Out of the two human guys, Jacob in my opinion is the better of the two.


I only played femshep once, and wound up deleting the file (I love Jennifer Hale, but when I think of Commander Shepard, I think of Mark Meer).  Anyway, back on topic; so yes, the aliens do have better personalities that I find interesting.  Jacob is just a regular guy; apparently, they tried making Kaiden like that as well, but for me at least in Kaiden's case, it backfired.  I have yet to see a female Krogan, but I wouldn't be opposed (as some have already voiced and yes, I've seen it) if Wrex had been made a potential LI.  Krogan LI honestly, wouldn't be bad; a hannar I'm on the fence about and the volus, I'll pass.

On a side note, I think it would have been interesting if Zaeed and Kasumi were made options.  Although, Kasumi has a thing for Jacob....:mellow:


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I preffer human love to alien (child bearing and all that). lthough I romanced Liara in ME1, I ended up cheating on her with Miranda (she took it remarkably well). Miranda's "bossy" attitude? I never got that from her. She was a **** in the first hour of the game, but after that she really opened up and I ended up liking her character... a lot (dat ass).



As of the alien LIs... thay're all bad except for Garrus I guess, he seems OK for a romance). Tali was horrible, she isn't cut out to be a LI. If it wasn't for the mask nobody would have romanced her. After all, if BW would have shown her face at the end, nobody would keep liking her. It's her thing, the thing that keeps people going back to her.



Thane was just there to balance things with femshep so she'll have more alien romances. LAME.




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I personally know a few people who went for the alien LIs strictly because it was different. Why romance a human when you can make love to a space cricket? (sorry Garrus Image IPB)

As for me, the personality of the male aliens are far more interesting than the human men. Kaidan is a sweetheart, and if you ignore the creepy flirting and priiize lines, Jacob is a pretty cool guy. But then you have Garrus and Thane. Garrus has the advantage of being in both games, making you more attached to him. He's emotionally quite deep, and has that awkwardness about him that women find adorable. Thane's a mature romance that is both heartwrenching and heart-lifting, and his views are more 'alien' than we're used to, which is intriguing (to me, at least).

I can't really judge the women since I haven't finished my run-through with Sheploo yet. But seeing as I'm already going for Jack...guess the female aliens just don't hold as much appeal to me.

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My femShep romanced Kaidan. I don't care how many people think he's boring, I like him a lot. My first manShep romanced Liara because I don't much like Ashley. Liara's adorable and I was curious about the romance. She's basically a blue human without hair. So nothing weird about that. I romanced Ash on my third playthrough just because I wanted to have done it all. In ME2 I've only romanced one alien yet: Garrus. Why? Because it's *Garrus* How can you not like him? My second favorite male character after Kaidan. I was thrilled when I heard I'll get to romance him. Not because I'm particularly fond of creepy sex but simply because he's a nice guy. The sex part is something I don't want to think about too closely actually.

As in ME1 I will explore all romances. Would be a waste not to.

Thane's is basically a human with snake skin. Tali's body is very human, too. So the only kinky sex partner is Garrus IMO.

I chose my first LI in either game by personality. But if we're given a krogan for romancing in ME3 I'll flinch, no matter how nice a person he/she is. But I'd do it for the heck of it!

I'd trade either of the three romances in ME2 for Kaidan, the boring human *g*








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Mylene wrote...

 

Esbatty wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

This thread is goin' places. :police:

Maker's breath! I'm doin' my best to control my baser "lulz" commentary.

it is either you get me wrong or i misused the language since i m not native english speaker and my original meaning may be misinterpreted.
what i really mean is : you mentioned that quarian/asari/turian are "human-y",that is,their body shapes have some common features wirh human's,so the similarity between a human and a humanoid alien is the same as the similarity between cats and dogs on the body shape.
and the problem is,cats and dogs dont mate each other just because they have some similarities on their body shape.


I fail to see the comparison respectfully because dogs and cats are animals with natural instricts but lack that upper teir realm of mental behavior for humanoid beings with devopled brain mechanics no matter how much humanity people wish to imply to their beloved pets.

It would be natural to be attracted at the very least to an alien that represents a human form or close to one because of the ways human beings operate in terms of sexual/emotional attraction.  The more something would looke like a  woman or a man, the possibility has a better chance of an alien coupling. I for one, growing up watching Star Trek: The Next Generation and epecially  Star Trek: Deep Space 9 --- have already seen the possibilites of human and alien relationships ( not to mention the idea of Twi-lek dancers in Star Wars or Captain whats his face and the Minbari ( Did I get that right?)  in Babylon 5...so it wasn't a big taboo for me.

In my case, Shepard is supposed to be the bridge to the other races in Mass Effect, and as it is a Sci Fi story,  I would rather be immersed in the Science Fiction by having the character be  " in love"  with an Alien speices.  In this case, the Assari my view would most likely be the closest thing, and unlike the Quarian, more accessbile and they kind of look like blue size zero models walking up and down Imperial Beach.  Tali would be the 2nd except for her little problem with the enviormental suit ( and we still don't know what they look like underneath it dispite the Tali Scene ( Damn you Bio Ware!) but the female Quarian are also shaped like very atheletic women in tight suits.  I notice one thing --- the females regarldess in ME have pretty much won the war on  Obesity and just about everyone looks like they could go through a Triatholon or two without too much huffing and puffing.   ( I find that unrealistic if not telegraphing more Size Zero propoganda).

I don't see an issue, if the like minded body make-ups transition well between human physology...and the said person has an attaction... gooooo for it.

Now saying someone " falls in love"  with any of these fictional characters is going too far in my book, after all --- its only a game but there are plausible relationships that you could, as the player, see your self getting into the various choices in the game with the fandom that comes with it. 

A relationship with Miranda wouldn't last too long in my view, nor would one with Jack go on for too long as their both attached to other problems and issues that would take presidence over Shepard at some point.

Ashley Williams to me, was too much of a Zealot for the Alliance and her behavior at Horizon burned any bridge of my Shepard to hint at it, after all, she thought my Shepard was a terrorist and outright called him a traitor to his face.

I won't go through the rest --- as it has been beaten to death but out of all them, it seems that  Liara was the one who went through hell and damn nation for Shepard, took lumps, dealed with the Shadow Broker's B.S --- risked life and limb --- AND greeted you with kindness without going on and on and on about Cerberus's terrorism or being a traitor.

So you know, loyalty goes a long way in my book. She diserves Shepard's all.

Tali comes in second because it seems she's a nice person without special interests looming in the closet --- and she also treats Shepard very well when they meet again ---  without the whole Cerebus complaint.  She's a little older, more wiser, and she's also willing to fight along side Shepard despite the situation.  Her loyalty mission --- like Liara's mission were well written and had a lot more drama involved, giving you a closer inspection at their lives and who they are.

Modifié par MrnDvlDg161, 28 septembre 2010 - 07:13 .


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It all comes down to looks and that might corelate to how human they appear as well. The Asari are pretty human looking in their body type, face and height. The fact that they've got no hair and blue skin makes them "exotic" and not disgusting.

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MrnDvlDg161 wrote...
Ashley Williams to me, was too much of a Zealot for the Alliance and her behavior at Horizon burned any bridge of my Shepard to hint at it, after all, she thought my Shepard was a terrorist and outright called him a traitor to his face.

I won't go through the rest --- as it has been beaten to death but out of all them, it seems that  Liara was the one who went through hell and damn nation for Shepard, took lumps, dealed with the Shadow Broker's B.S --- risked life and limb --- AND greeted you with kindness without going on and on and on about Cerberus's terrorism or being a traitor.

So you know, loyalty goes a long way in my book. She diserves Shepard's all.


So Ashley (and Kaidan) sucks because she critizes Shepard and has morals she stays faithful to? How dare she! Am I the only person in this forum who likes the Vermire survivors even MORE for being the only people who mind that Shepard's now working for this abominable organization called Cerberus?! If I were them I'd be pissed, too. Sure, they could have listened to what Sehp has to say. maybe should have had a little more faith in his/her reasons for working with Cerberus. But they didn't turn their backs completely. They said they want to get in touch again once Shepard has returned from his mission. Sounds fair to me.

Liara went through a lot for Shepard, that's true. But it irritated the hell out of me that she welcomed him/her with open arms like that. Never questioned Shep for a minute. Doesn't even mind if you've been sleeping around! Good faithful Liara is so in love with you that she's willing to put up with anything. That's quite a commitment for a short romance in ME1...

So women who don't look up to Shepard like he's an infallible god are bad?
I think I'll have brain surgery and become lesbian. If something goes wrong with the operation I'll probably end up as uncriticizing as Liara. So it's a win-win!

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Kappa Neko wrote...

So Ashley (and Kaidan) sucks because she critizes Shepard and has morals she stays faithful to? How dare she! Am I the only person in this forum who likes the Vermire survivors even MORE for being the only people who mind that Shepard's now working for this abominable organization called Cerberus?! If I were them I'd be pissed, too. Sure, they could have listened to what Sehp has to say. maybe should have had a little more faith in his/her reasons for working with Cerberus. But they didn't turn their backs completely. They said they want to get in touch again once Shepard has returned from his mission. Sounds fair to me.


You're not the only person who thinks this way. 

Whether Ash/Kaidan make a rational point on Horizon is not even an issue in my mind. Ash/Kaidan have not seen Shepard for two years. They thought Shep was dead, and then out of the blue, Shep shows up - and working for Cerberus to boot. Is it not understandable that they'd react emotionally to this situation? People sometimes react with anger to cover up more vunerable emotions.

Besides, all couples say nasty things to each other at times, and usually it's  over trivial matters. Shep's resurrection and alliance with Cerberus are far from trivial. I think Ash/Kaidan can be forgiven for their words  given the extremity of the situation. I'd be more worried if they just brushed it off and accepted it without a second thought.

As far as I'm concerned, Ash/Kaidan's reaction to Shepard's return was simply human. They felt like real characters, because as you pointed out, they don't worship the ground Shep walks on.

Modifié par Lord_Caledore, 28 septembre 2010 - 08:37 .


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[Edit 28 Sept 2010: Removed antagonistic comment. If you can't say something in a respectful manner, don't say it. -- Pacifien]

Modifié par Pacifien, 29 septembre 2010 - 12:02 .


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[Edit 28 Sept 2010: Removed quote of antagonistic comment. -- Pacifien]

Modifié par Pacifien, 29 septembre 2010 - 12:04 .


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Kappa Neko wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...
Ashley Williams to me, was too much of a Zealot for the Alliance and her behavior at Horizon burned any bridge of my Shepard to hint at it, after all, she thought my Shepard was a terrorist and outright called him a traitor to his face.

I won't go through the rest --- as it has been beaten to death but out of all them, it seems that  Liara was the one who went through hell and damn nation for Shepard, took lumps, dealed with the Shadow Broker's B.S --- risked life and limb --- AND greeted you with kindness without going on and on and on about Cerberus's terrorism or being a traitor.

So you know, loyalty goes a long way in my book. She diserves Shepard's all.


So Ashley (and Kaidan) sucks because she critizes Shepard and has morals she stays faithful to? How dare she! Am I the only person in this forum who likes the Vermire survivors even MORE for being the only people who mind that Shepard's now working for this abominable organization called Cerberus?! If I were them I'd be pissed, too. Sure, they could have listened to what Sehp has to say. maybe should have had a little more faith in his/her reasons for working with Cerberus. But they didn't turn their backs completely. They said they want to get in touch again once Shepard has returned from his mission. Sounds fair to me.

Liara went through a lot for Shepard, that's true. But it irritated the hell out of me that she welcomed him/her with open arms like that. Never questioned Shep for a minute. Doesn't even mind if you've been sleeping around! Good faithful Liara is so in love with you that she's willing to put up with anything. That's quite a commitment for a short romance in ME1...

So women who don't look up to Shepard like he's an infallible god are bad?
I think I'll have brain surgery and become lesbian. If something goes wrong with the operation I'll probably end up as uncriticizing as Liara. So it's a win-win!


Hey just my view  on it, if you dig them --- then dig them. I do not. I respect your cup of tea --- everyone's got who they like and dislike and your welcome to completely disagree with me.

HOWEVER ... I do hope they do something with that terribly written cliff hanger between them as they did justice with the Liara story bridge. I may be direct, but I am also fair! 

Modifié par MrnDvlDg161, 28 septembre 2010 - 11:46 .


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Liara is beautiful and she looks a lot like my girlfriend xD

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Uhh....not to be a downer and derail a interesting debate, but guys, we're going off topic here....

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First, Ashley is a zealot but she evolves if you take her down the paragon path. That makes for an interesting character instead of little miss perfect who will lie down at your feat. Liara only became interesting with ME2 and LotSB.



But basically, Asari are simply blue humans. And while Tali does have some odd physiology, I'll bet you a dollar that she has ordinary skin under that suit, which means she is basically a nymph.



Now the female LI are more interesting. I know that women say they value character over looks (I don't entirely believe that) but being attracted to a guy with scales and gills? Or a creature with a hard exoskeleton and mandibles? Maybe women are telling the truth about the whole perrsonality thing. Although, I bet if this were real life, the first time they pressed up against scales would probably freak a lot of them out.

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

First, Ashley is a zealot but she evolves if you take her down the paragon path. That makes for an interesting character instead of little miss perfect who will lie down at your feat. Liara only became interesting with ME2 and LotSB.


Taken from Merriam Webster followed by other sources for the definition of zealot:

Definition of ZEALOT[/i]1capitalized : a member of a fanatical sect arising in Judea during the first century a.d.[/i] and militantly opposing the Roman domination of Palestine2: a zealous person; especially : a fanatical partisan <a religious zealot>

http://dictionary.babylon.com/zealot/
http://www.google.co...BA&ved=0CBIQkAE

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Yeah, I know zealot was the wrong word, I was just responding to an earlier post but didn't quote it. I think we all understand Ashley's character in ME1.

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I don't like the human LI's. Simple as that.

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They're exotic and the characters have attractive personalities to boot.

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Quarians and Asari look pretty much 99% human so they certainly create sexual interest in human beings. Drell look mostly human but their eyes are a bit too much "in your face" with them being large, black and frog like and every cutscene involving Thane ensures that you get a real close look at them.....which I can easily see as being a major put-off for a lot of women. As for garrus....he's too non-human but his cool personality can be attractive to women.....until they find out that as far as romances go he's just a duchebag....probably the worst executed romance.



So in this area the women got screwed big time.....it's either big, ugly eyes, an ugly reptile with a not-so cool romance attitude or a human with less personality than a lump of plastic.



But for the guys.....Tali looks amazing despites the inability to see her face but still we know from ascension that quarians have mouths and noses and so on so she's definitely human enough to even expect human-like reproductive systems although actual conception may not be possible. And the Asari don't even need any explanation......everything about them besides the head tentacles and skin color look 100% human so expecting humans not to be attracted to them is beyond unreasonable. So there's a lot more going on than just personality although personality also plays an important role.

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Ashley said that I was a walking god...

No other LI has said that and since I'm Shepard I must approve of her divine worship in me. Thus Ashley all the way!

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The only interesting human love interest to me is Ashley Williams.



Jack can be alright at times but she's crazy; how do you think this relationship will end? Miranda's boring. Jacob's better as a friend. Kaidan's boring.



Tali's cute and smart and enjoyable. Garrus is awesome. Thane is bad ass but sensitive. Liara's a bit boring and then later distant though.



Has nothing to do with finding the aliens sexier. If it was mere physical appearance then Miranda and Jacob would be everyone's favorites. ....actually I think Jack has a better body than Miranda.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Ashley said that I was a walking god...

No other LI has said that and since I'm Shepard I must approve of her divine worship in me. Thus Ashley all the way!


You mean apart from calling you a traitor and the rest of the subsequent complete trasing she hands you?

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Ashley said that I was a walking god...

No other LI has said that and since I'm Shepard I must approve of her divine worship in me. Thus Ashley all the way!


You mean apart from calling you a traitor and the rest of the subsequent complete trasing she hands you?


Hey, Kaidan says the exact same thing with minor cosmetic changes!

In ME2 vanilla all the previous LIs were turned into unlikable whiners or evil for no reason.

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If Wrex were an LI I'd totally hit that, because he is my favorite personality of all the characters you encounter, even more so than Garrus, who is still my favorite character over all, but I've got a thing for turians.

As for why I'd pick an alien LI over a human, personality to the side, I think my signature says enough. Why would I romance a digital human character when I'm surrounded by real humans every day and I can romance a hypothetical alien character that doesn't exist in reality? It's different, yes, but that's not the whole reason. In the end it really just comes down to a combination of personality and physical appeal, and I for one find turians very attractive, so the fact that I also greatly enjoy Garrus' personality seals the deal.

Also, I like neither Kaidan or Ashley. In my opinion they're the least interesting and most irritating of all the characters in both ME and ME2, in part because I feel like they're being thrown at me as the canon romantic leads, regardless of who I might choose over them. I like Jacob a lot, though I find his potential friendship arc more meaningful and satisfying than the romantic one (from what I've gleaned anyway - I haven't actually done his romance so I could be wrong, but the friendship aspect earns him major kudos).

In my experience I've also found that getting to know someone can drastically alter your perception of them. Personality plays an enormous part in how you perceive a person, whether they are human or alien. Most people want to find love and happiness. We all have varying ideals for that significant other, but the bottom line to me is, in this Universe aliens have all the potential for honor, goodness, and emotional attachments that humans do, therefore I don't really care what they look like or how many hoops you have to go through for intimacy - an alien can treat me with as much respect and care as a human.

After all, you don't love a body, you love a person.

EDIT: Typos...

Modifié par Faerlyte, 29 septembre 2010 - 04:47 .


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Why do I romance Garrus almost every game I play? Because Garrus meshes well with my Shepard, Sara (Colonist/Ruthless/Adept, but Paragade). He's one my favorite characters and he has always been there for her. But to be honest I don't find Turian's to be very sexy just Garrus and I know that's because of his personality. (Although, I do think Turians are beautiful, but that more the artistic side of me talking.)