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[jbblue05]

For those who read Mass Effect Retribution

You find out Anderson is working with the Turians to take down Cerberus
The Turians severly cripple but don't eliminate Cerberus.

The turians arrest Alliance officals with ties to Cerberus, arrest Cerberus operatives. take over Cerberus stations recovering all their data, interrogate companies that are funding Cerberus whom are also funded by the Alliance or fund the Alliance.

Anybody else think Anderson might have inadvertently betrayed the Alliance?

The data the Turians get from Cerberus might be enough evidence to charge the Alliance with treason to the Council
I'm thinking the Alliance is going to be mad at Anderson for making them look weak and getting some of their top officials arrested and further connecting the Alliance with Cerberus

Thoughts?

[TemplarGG]

NOOOO!!!!!!!!! That's impossible, and he won't betray in ME3.

[jbblue05]

TemplarGG wrote...

NOOOO!!!!!!!!! That's impossible, and he won't betray in ME3.

Its not his true purpose to betray the Alliance but he might've put the Alliance in a tough perdicament

[AntiChri5]

It's called cleaning house.

It's a good thing.

[jojon2se]

*watches TemplarGG disappear down the BottomlessShaftTM*

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Ending curroption means that you have to get rid of everyone who is involved in it. If that means that high ranking officers of the Alliance get arrested for supporting Cerberus that so be it. He's doing what needs to be done if you're going to bring down a well funded terrorist orginization is to root it out.

[jbblue05]

AntiChri5 wrote...

It's called cleaning house.
It's a good thing.

No doubt that's Anderson's intention
But their are going to be consequences for his actions and not all positive

[Never]

I think he was aware of the consequences when he made the decision. He also had a damn good reason for not going through Alliance channels. I don't think the Alliance will be happy that they weren't involved, and Udina's head might explode (yay!), but I think they'll be okay with it.

[Schneidend]

The Alliance is just going to have to suck it up. Anderson is the Councilor in my game, so the Alliance can't really touch him, anyway. Moreover, my Shep will be grateful to Anderson for getting rid of the nastier elements of my new clandestine shadow organization.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

so, why isn't commander sheperd arrested for working cerberus entering alliance territory (the citadel), speaking with the alliance council, having them reinstate his spectre status, aswell as talk with anderson in the process?... in what ever sense this guy is trying to make out, sheperd's plothole is far worst than this anderson's plothole... i'm sure anderson is far from a betrayer.

[GodWood]

Schneidend wrote...
The Alliance is just going to have to suck it up. Anderson is the Councilor in my game, so the Alliance can't really touch him, anyway. Moreover, my Shep will be grateful to Anderson for getting rid of the nastier elements of my new clandestine shadow organization.

Anderson's no longer councilor

Modifié par GodWood, 28 septembre 2010 - 09:29 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

GodWood wrote...

Anderson's no longer councilor

 he's still councilor in my game... :)my sheperd still a spectre, even working in this plothole sense (being with cerberus instead of being alliance)

[jbblue05]

Anderson resigns as Councilor he doesn't have immunity from the Alliance anymore



Anderson crippled Cerberus but the Turians have intel linking Cerberus to the Alliance.

Which isn't going to sit well with the Alliance and is going to raise suspicions about the Alliance

[GodWood]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Anderson's no longer councilor

 he's still councilor in my game... 

No he's not, he quits his job in Retribution.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

jbblue05 wrote...

Anderson resigns as Councilor he doesn't have immunity from the Alliance anymore

Anderson crippled Cerberus but the Turians have intel linking Cerberus to the Alliance.
Which isn't going to sit well with the Alliance and is going to raise suspicions about the Alliance

okay, dude... CERBERUS was apart of the Alliance originally, the Alliance is what made Cerberus in the first place... so is that suddenly illegal now in mass effect (cerberus and the alliance being linked together)?... what you're saying is irrelevant to the entire context of the series.

it's not like in mass effect cerberus was independently founded by private investors, it was actually created by the alliance... if the alliance wanted to, they can re-establish their cerberus affiliation when ever... if cerberus was deemed xeno-friendly with diplomacy... 

so this really doesn't matter.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 28 septembre 2010 - 09:38 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

GodWood wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Anderson's no longer councilor

 he's still councilor in my game... 

No he's not, he quits his job in Retribution.

as councilor or as captain? maybe that means he's captain anderson again in mass effect 3, of a bigger and better star ship where as commander sheperd can still operate as commanding officer/spectre who can command pointed navigations (aswell as take command or orders from anderson for certain missions).

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Captain I think

[GodWood]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

GodWood wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Anderson's no longer councilor

 he's still councilor in my game... 

No he's not, he quits his job in Retribution.

as councilor or as captain? maybe that means he's captain anderson again in mass effect 3, of a bigger and better star ship where as commander sheperd can still operate as commanding officer/spectre who can command pointed navigations (aswell as take command or orders from anderson for certain missions).

Councilor. And if the Alliance interprets his actions as betrayal I doubt they'll let him be Captain.

[wizardryforever]

Well I for one found it interesting to note that Anderson meets with a Cerberus representative in the Lair of the Shadow Broker videos.  Maybe there's more to him than meets the eye.

[jbblue05]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Anderson resigns as Councilor he doesn't have immunity from the Alliance anymore

Anderson crippled Cerberus but the Turians have intel linking Cerberus to the Alliance.
Which isn't going to sit well with the Alliance and is going to raise suspicions about the Alliance

okay, dude... CERBERUS was apart of the Alliance originally, the Alliance is what made Cerberus in the first place... so is that suddenly illegal now in mass effect (cerberus and the alliance being linked together)?... what you're saying is irrelevant to the entire context of the series.

it's not like in mass effect cerberus was independently founded by private investors, it was actually created by the alliance... if the alliance wanted to, they can re-establish their cerberus affiliation when ever... if cerberus was deemed xeno-friendly with diplomacy... 

so this really doesn't matter.

How is it irrelevant it deals with Cerberus the Alliance and the Council
It does really matter it isn't s small side story and has a big impact on the Mass Effect series

[Icinix]

wizardryforever wrote...

Well I for one found it interesting to note that Anderson meets with a Cerberus representative in the Lair of the Shadow Broker videos.  Maybe there's more to him than meets the eye.

What I want to know is how a person was able to walk around the Citadel with Cerberus logo's so easily AND to a high ranking official like Anderson.

I think that Anderson has just put his own mole into Cerberus.  Also not so much betraying the Alliance as he is removing the corrupt elements that are still affiliated with Cerberus.

[Nibroc17]

AntiChri5 wrote...
No doubt that's Anderson's intention.
But their are going to be consequences for his actions and not all positive

NO DUH!!! of course there are going to be consequences, good and bad. It go's with the territory. If u were the president and u had traitor's in your midst would u ignore them or sweep it under the rug because u were afraid of the consequences? no u wouldn't cause they would be worse if u didn't clean house. You obviously didn't think this through clearly...

Modifié par Nibroc17, 28 septembre 2010 - 09:59 .

[jbblue05]

Nibroc17 wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...
No doubt that's Anderson's intention.
But their are going to be consequences for his actions and not all positive

NO DUH!!! of course there are going to be consequences, good and bad. It go's with the territory. If u were the president and u had traitor's in your midst would u ignore them or sweep it under the rug because u were afraid of the consequences? no u wouldn't cause they would be worse if u didn't clean house. You obviously didn't think this through clearly...

You obviously didn't think through your post clearly.
The Alliance rather solve this problem on their own not have Turians solve their problems for them and make the Alliance look weak.

If the "traitors" in the Alliance held high positions within the Alliance you think they want everyone to find out.
You think Alliance Command is going to be O.K. with Anderson's actions
Anderson linked Cerberus to the Alliance that's going to cast a dark shadow over Alliance

[Nibroc17]

AntiChri5 wrote...
You obviously didn't think through your post clearly.
The Alliance rather solve this problem on their own not have Turians solve their problems for them and make the Alliance look weak.

If the "traitors" in the Alliance held high positions within the Alliance you think they want everyone to find out.
You think Alliance Command is going to be O.K. with Anderson's actions
Anderson linked Cerberus to the Alliance that's going to cast a dark shadow over Alliance

Well obviously there not going to go to Earth and arrest humans. But they will be allowed to arrest humans else where like the citadel for example with out talking to the Alliance as long as they have sufficient evidence, but Anderson is still with the Alliance and is high ranking so they already did they just kept it in a small circle. So there should be no problem with the Alliance looking weak since they were involved through Anderson. Me 1, You 0. lol 

Oh forgot about how they will spin it in the new's, about how the Alliance and the Turian Hierarchy worked together to take out Cerberus agent's around citadel space. think about that.

Modifié par Nibroc17, 28 septembre 2010 - 10:43 .

[jbblue05]

Nibroc17 wrote...


Well obviously there not going to go to Earth and arrest humans. But they will be allowed to arrest humans else where like the citadel for example with out talking to the Alliance as long as they have sufficient evidence, but Anderson is still with the Alliance and is high ranking so they already did they just kept it in a small circle. So there should be no problem with the Alliance looking weak since they were involved through Anderson. Me 1, You 0. lol 

Why would they go to Earth
Don't you think if Alliance officials, Alliance corporations are interrogated the Alliance is going to start asking questions.
In Retribution the Turian Ambassador Orinia is trying to avoid a political controversey with the Alliance stalling them so the Turians can finish their investigation.  Which means the Alliance is pissed off and wants answers.
Anderson is not as high ranking as you want to believe he's just a rear admiral.  I wouldn't say his in the "inner circel" 
If he's a councilor he's doing a poor job representing Humanity

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