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Naltair wrote...

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so your not really a fan of Tali?

Is that sarcasm?



I asked a question.....would you mind answering it? lol

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FemSheps just a fling, man...she's moving on to Feron :P

Wouldn't be surprised. Feron is a man.

That was pretty funny

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Shavon wrote...

Yeah, my Shep that does not romance her . . . I diod not get the impression at all that Liara was interested in Feron.

Of course, maybe with a non-romanced MShep, that is the case . . . Lizardviking, do you play a MShep?


I played LOTSB with 4 sheps.

2 maleshep where one of them romanced Liara and the other didn't. And 2 femshep where one of them also romanced her and the other didn't (and no, I didn't notice any diffrence in the scenes until I read this topic).

While I didn't ask about her relationship with Feron on the femshep that didn't romance her, I did do it however with the maleshep who didn't have Liara as a LI and she does show an interest towards Feron.

I guess the same applies to Femshep who didn't romance her.

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

I asked a question.....would you mind answering it? lol

I like her character I am not a fan that posts in her monster thread nor do I get overly involved with the nuances of her romance scene.  I think her story is well done and the same can be said for Jacob, Grunt, Samara, etc... I just don't choose to romance them.

If she gets annihilated in the first 3 seconds of Mass Effect 3 I would be sad but i would finish the game because I am playing for the overall story.

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

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Okay, anyone who thinks this thread is ridiculous, you don't need to tell us you think it's ridiculous. There are plenty of other threads out there that probably meet your discussion needs. And if you're offended by those who think this thread is ridiculous, no need to respond to them either. It's really not going to add to the discussion. Keep to the topic. Keep cool.

I think that could be taken a little harshly I try not to just say they are silly but I think the emotional "drama" in some posts needs to be tempered by more cooler heads who realize this isn't an attack on female Shepard, Liara, or their preferred play style.

If you want people to support you and more importantly for BioWare to listen, then I think a more logical and less emotionally laced approach would get the best results if any.


maybe some poeple are tired of having cool heads....conclusion fits evidence right-O?


So does the possibility that they simply had two different editors who put together each scene and there was some minor deviation. Remember that everyone loved the femshep ending just a few hours ago. Does a second of less sobbing invalidate that? Do people honestly think Bioware did it because they hate you?


it might lol.......conclusion fits evidence right-OoO meh friend?

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Point of this thread - perhaps receive insight as to why the two scenes differ. Lets just try and see that through.



So two different teams worked on it? Its certainly is a shame you guys got the lesser quality of the two, would love bioware to comment..

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I do find it very odd that Liara doesn't smile when she says "I'm open to suggestions", or she doesn't weep after the SB battle, and frankly I would love an explanation from the devs.



What I think is "ridiculous" is when people start saying "I'm just gonna have to but LotSB down" because of these little issues. The developers worked too hard on this thing and released such an exceptional piece of DLC for people to disregard everything for slight differences. I think it's a shame that a few small issues like these can ruin the entire experience.



I prefer femshep because of superior voice acting, and I think the relationship reconnect with both genders is powerful enough that these issues should not take away anything.

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Naltair wrote...

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I asked a question.....would you mind answering it? lol

I like her character I am not a fan that posts in her monster thread nor do I get overly involved with the nuances of her romance scene.  I think her story is well done and the same can be said for Jacob, Grunt, Samara, etc... I just don't choose to romance them.

If she gets annihilated in the first 3 seconds of Mass Effect 3 I would be sad but i would finish the game because I am playing for the overall story.


true.....I might have came in here a little...........harsh lol but it's just a game............a very awesome and indepth game

hmm I think I will change my avi to something more.......better lol than a liara one

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It bugs me less about the crying and more that Liara doesn't smile at femShep. I'd rather she be happy than sad. It's the overall emotional content, though. Sad or happy, Liara is currently more expressive around maleShep. No reason for that. Disappointing for people who don't play maleShep.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 29 septembre 2010 - 07:44 .


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Naltair and Gamer, if you'd like to have a personal discussion between the two of you, take it to PM. It's perfectly acceptable to have contrary opinions on this matter, but keep your feelings of the people behind such opinions out of it. This goes to everyone, not just one side versus the other.

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NamiraWilhelm wrote...
So two different teams worked on it? Its certainly is a shame you guys got the lesser quality of the two, would love bioware to comment..

I don't know if someone brought up the same idea, but when I mentioned it, I was speculating. The same person could have done both versions, but then the difference between the two would just boggle my mind. Forever.

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Midnight_Thirty wrote...

What I think is "ridiculous" is when people start saying "I'm just gonna have to but LotSB down" because of these little issues. The developers worked too hard on this thing and released such an exceptional piece of DLC for people to disregard everything for slight differences. I think it's a shame that a few small issues like these can ruin the entire experience.


Yeah, I'm probably being ridiculous, but that's how I feel. 

I've played the dlc 6 times and I do still think it's well done.  I've just lost all desire to play it now.

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I'd love it if the devs wouldn't have to read through pages of people going on and on about what is ridiculous or isn't. I want them to see what the issues are clearly.

-Liara has a more emotional crying scene with a MaleShep regardless of romance.
-Liara doesn't with a FemShep who romanced her.
-Liara also smiles more in the cabin with a MaleShep who romanced her.
-Plus the clipping is slightly immersion breaking but it could be forgiven if not for the missing emotional pieces.

Modifié par rynluna, 29 septembre 2010 - 07:47 .


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Naltair and Gamer, if you'd like to have a personal discussion between the two of you, take it to PM. It's perfectly acceptable to have contrary opinions on this matter, but keep your feelings of the people behind such opinions out of it. This goes to everyone, not just one side versus the other.


damn I thought I was just having a civil conversation.... I wasn't trying to ****** anyone off lol


Naltair was I pissing you off? lol I didn't think I was

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rynluna wrote...

I'd love it if the devs wouldn't have to read through pages of people going on and on about what is ridiculous or isn't. I want them to see what the issues are clearly.

-Liara has a more emotional crying scene with a MaleShep regardless of romance.
-Liara doesn't with a FemShep who romanced her.
-Plus the clipping is slightly immersion breaking but it could be forgiven if not for the missing emotional piece.


Ugh, the clipping.  The clipping throughout the entire game is pretty immersion-breaking.  Wrex shoving his entire arm inside his neck always gets me.  As much as I wish otherwise, I don't think those will be fixed any time soon.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 29 septembre 2010 - 07:50 .


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rynluna wrote...

-Liara has a more emotional crying scene with a MaleShep regardless of romance.
-Liara doesn't with a FemShep who romanced her.
-Liara also smiles more in the cabin with a MaleShep who romanced her.
-Plus the clipping is slightly immersion breaking but it could be forgiven if not for the missing emotional pieces.

I would focus on the technical issues, because it is not universal that her not crying is seen as less emotional just to you and others who feel the same way.  Others have voiced that they feel the not crying is more powerful.

Now as to fixing the clipping and the lip sync issues that should be the focus.  That and the sobbing sound or no sobbing sound it should be the same for both.

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rynluna wrote...

I'd love it if the devs wouldn't have to read through pages of people going on and on about what is ridiculous or isn't. I want them to see what the issues are clearly.


I agree, what I was trying to say was that this thread was getting away from that, whatever somebody's argument was.

I honestly can't think of a logical alternative other than the "developers just missed something", except on the non-smile by Liara. That one is a little more curious.

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it's just a bug.....in the game



every game has bugs lol annoying little damn things



so how long do you all think it will take BW to fix something this humongous little bug?

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

it's just a bug.....in the game

every game has bugs lol annoying little damn things

so how long do you all think it will take BW to fix something this humongous little bug?


It's not a bug, the scene has 2 eniterly different animations written for it and different sound.

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My guess based on the track record of other bugs/gaffes/graphical glitches is never.



But hopefully it can be avoided in future DLC and the sequel.

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

it's just a bug.....in the game

every game has bugs lol annoying little damn things

so how long do you all think it will take BW to fix something this humongous little bug?


Considering the Conrad Verner bug still excist....

FOREVER!!:devil:

HAHA! ENJOY YOUR CLEARLY BROKEN AND FAR LESS ENJOYABLE LOTSB EXPERIENCE AS A FEMSHEP!

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Count Viceroy wrote...

GamerFSS86 wrote...

it's just a bug.....in the game

every game has bugs lol annoying little damn things

so how long do you all think it will take BW to fix something this humongous little bug?


It's not a bug, the scene has 2 eniterly different animations written for it and different sound.


oops my bad......it's not a bug......but it could be

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Yeah, the bug theory has been crushed (pun intended).



It was intentional...

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Lizardviking wrote...

GamerFSS86 wrote...

it's just a bug.....in the game

every game has bugs lol annoying little damn things

so how long do you all think it will take BW to fix something this humongous little bug?


Considering the Conrad Verner bug still excist....

FOREVER!!:devil:

HAHA! ENJOY YOUR CLEARLY BROKEN AND FAR LESS ENJOYABLE LOTSB EXPERIENCE AS A FEMSHEP!


LMFAO

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

GamerFSS86 wrote...

it's just a bug.....in the game

every game has bugs lol annoying little damn things

so how long do you all think it will take BW to fix something this humongous little bug?


Considering the Conrad Verner bug still excist....

FOREVER!!:devil:

HAHA! ENJOY YOUR CLEARLY BROKEN AND FAR LESS ENJOYABLE LOTSB EXPERIENCE AS A FEMSHEP!


LMFAO


I don't find that funny.