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[Shutterbones]

Maybe I'm just incredibly new to the bioware forums, but either the elusive Cullen appreciation threads are hiding somewhere secret or no one has made one yet, which is blasphemy!

Cullen is my favorite DA:O character and if this second decree is true, then I make a new decree we establish a healthy fanbase like he deserves and show that darling templar some well-deserved love, discussion, fanwork, and attention!

Who's with me?

In retrospect, it'd be awesome if we could perhaps get a weekly prompt going for him. Fanworks always generate more fans, as I say!

[Zjarcal]

There actually are a few Cullen fans here. I've even see a few sigs for him.



I'm not sure how will an appreciation thread fare though...

[Shutterbones]

I'm certainly going to do my best to try and congregate them all in one place for some Cullen partying then haha.



We are few but devoted, I'd like to believe.

[Persephone]

All I can say is that encountering him with my female mage in the Broken Circle quest is....harrowing.

[KnightofPhoenix]

...Culllen is your favorite character? Wow I know he has fans, but not this devoted.

[Shutterbones]

I simply liked his possibilities better than other characters. After a playthrough as a mage, and spending some time reading up on his profile and some other things, I found him to be a very dynamic character. Simple as that.



I know quite a few other people who agree as well.

[KnightofPhoenix]

tysandri wrote...

I simply liked his possibilities better than other characters. After a playthrough as a mage, and spending some time reading up on his profile and some other things, I found him to be a very dynamic character. Simple as that.

Well yea, in the sense he can end up being either a tyrant or a madman.
Was there a 3rd, less sad, ending? Too bad if there isn't.

For me, Cullen in many ways represents the tragedy of the Templars.
So in that sense, he is a good character.

[Shutterbones]

I think I really liked the potential of him, and the possibilities that Bioware left so open and unattended. I do wish he'd gotten more of a limelight. I really strike an interest in conflicted characters, and that's why I liked him actually. The dynamic of being a templar really struck an interest in me. They didn't really put a lot of emphasis on the hardship and struggle that templars face. I tend to go for very odd options in interest, but with Cullen I became quickly attached by the possibilities for what could be with a character like him. :]



So yeah, I did mean it that way.

[Zjarcal]

I also agree he's a good character, a tragic one. It was really disturbing however hearing him speak when you returned to the tower as a female mage.



I don't think there's a third ending, the wiki only displays one for siding with the Templars and one for siding with the Mages.



It was amusing getting a reference to his obsession with the PC in Witch Hunt. I actually wanted to fireball the two mages that were doing the gossiping.



"That's none of your business!"

[KnightofPhoenix]

At the risk of...well putting my life in danger, I'll say that Cullens could have been a more interesting companion than Alistair.

Now where's my evac?

[Shutterbones]

Hahaha I liked Alistair my first playthrough then....sort of didn't care much at all for him once I played my elf mage and met Cullen.



Far more interesting templar. And tragic is the perfect word to describe him. He may be a basket case, but I find that more appealing than the shiny puppydog we know as Alistair.



I wouldn't worry about putting your life in danger. No need here haha.

[Merilsell]

Oh cool, I guess there would have been a way for Loghain to survive after all, if that had been the case. I just doubt that Cullen would have made it so far, being so stable and all.

Well to each their own, I suppose but I never got the Cullen hype. When I hear this name I always have to think of a) Twilight and This lulzy fanfiction. Not the best requirements to be taken as a serious character by me in the first place.

Modifié par Merilsell, 30 septembre 2010 - 04:40 .

[Zjarcal]

Hmm, Cullen replacing Alistair as a companion? There's an interesting thought.

And don't worry KoP. As long as you don't actually post that idea in the Alistair thread, you're safe.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 30 septembre 2010 - 04:38 .

[Raiil]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

tysandri wrote...

I simply liked his possibilities better than other characters. After a playthrough as a mage, and spending some time reading up on his profile and some other things, I found him to be a very dynamic character. Simple as that.

Well yea, in the sense he can end up being either a tyrant or a madman.
Was there a 3rd, less sad, ending? Too bad if there isn't.

For me, Cullen in many ways represents the tragedy of the Templars.
So in that sense, he is a good character.

I agree on the tragedy bit. Alistair and, if you so choose, the mage Warden, are free. Cullen, who seems nice enough and may have not had a choice about becoming a Templar (he's pious, but not exceptionally so in the beginning) is everything that could have happened.


I've come across a lot of comments (in various places) where Templars are generally characterised as cruel, vicious men but to be honest, I can really see a lot of them empathising with one another potentially. Bran (the templar you can chat with at the tower's entrance) is pretty nice as well; mean templars seem to be the exception. I think Gaider stated that templars can technically marry if they wish, but let's be honest- the ones in the tower seem to be as trapped as the mages. :/


ETA: There is a third option. Playing through Witchhunt as a fem Amell, it's mentioned that Cullen is sent away by Greagoir to recuperate, and some of the mages think he may still hold a torch for the female Amell. So if the freeing mages option isn't taken, and the templars aren't sided with, there might still be the possibility of a decent, if not happy, ending for Cullen.

Modifié par Valentia X, 30 septembre 2010 - 04:41 .

[Shutterbones]

A sad but unfortunate same-name comparison that often is the first reaction people have. There is some pretty decent Cullen stuff out there, just hard to find. And I guess it really depends on what interests you.



I like to artistically interpret things, being an artist and a writer, so I really get attached to the possibility and open-ended story left with him. :]

[CalJones]

Oh dear god there's chapters of it!

[Zjarcal]

By the way, not sure if you're aware or not, but there's a mod that adds Cullen as a companion.

[Shutterbones]

Valentia X wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

tysandri wrote...

I simply liked his possibilities better than other characters. After a playthrough as a mage, and spending some time reading up on his profile and some other things, I found him to be a very dynamic character. Simple as that.

Well yea, in the sense he can end up being either a tyrant or a madman.
Was there a 3rd, less sad, ending? Too bad if there isn't.

For me, Cullen in many ways represents the tragedy of the Templars.
So in that sense, he is a good character.

I agree on the tragedy bit. Alistair and, if you so choose, the mage Warden, are free. Cullen, who seems nice enough and may have not had a choice about becoming a Templar (he's pious, but not exceptionally so in the beginning) is everything that could have happened.


I've come across a lot of comments (in various places) where Templars are generally characterised as cruel, vicious men but to be honest, I can really see a lot of them empathising with one another potentially. Bran (the templar you can chat with at the tower's entrance) is pretty nice as well; mean templars seem to be the exception. I think Gaider stated that templars can technically marry if they wish, but let's be honest- the ones in the tower seem to be as trapped as the mages. :/

I mean maybe I'm a bit overboard with my affections for the mage origin, but after my first time playing through a female mage origin, I went back and just spent hours running about the tower and talking to absolutely everyone there to get a fully 3-dimensional feel for what this life in the tower was like for mages. It's just..a completely different animal than other origins. There's so much POTENTIAL with the entire storyline and I felt it wasn't more than briefly touched upon (life in the tower).

Being that mages were supposedly the start of darkspawn, I was a bit saddened they didn't give this subject more time and limelight, but I suppose that would be playing favorites, which is fair and fine enough. But anyway with templars... I just ahh I love the dynamics of them. There's a lot of story with each and every templar in the tower that makes them unique and it's just such an experience, one I never wanted to end. Cullen, by far though, just really caught my attention the most because of his very uncharacteristic templar-ness that makes him so intriguing.

[KnightofPhoenix]

tysandri wrote...
I like to artistically interpret things, being an artist and a writer, so I really get attached to the possibility and open-ended story left with him. :]

So, imagine if a female mage, hwom he has a crush on, decides to side with the Templars. Eventually Cullen becomes Knight Commander and reigns with an iron fist. Do you think that this female mage can moderate him? Can get close to him by that point?

It would be an ironic shift. You had Cullen before trying to be close to the female mage and she didn't notice him. And then you have the femal mage trying to get closer to Cullen and he ignores her.

[Shutterbones]

Zjarcal wrote...

By the way, not sure if you're aware or not, but there's a mod that adds Cullen as a companion.

You must be jesting me. I've been trying to find out if there's a mod for Cullen as a companion for MONTHS. Where is this? D:

[Zjarcal]

Here it is:

http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1617

[Raiil]

Wasn't Cullen originally supposed to be recruitable or something? He had additional voice files in the toolkit; I have them downloaded somewhere on my computer...

[Zjarcal]

Valentia X wrote...

Wasn't Cullen originally supposed to be recruitable or something? He had additional voice files in the toolkit; I have them downloaded somewhere on my computer...

I know Jowan was originally supposed to be recruitable. I don't think Cullen was.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Zjarcal wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

Wasn't Cullen originally supposed to be recruitable or something? He had additional voice files in the toolkit; I have them downloaded somewhere on my computer...

I know Jowan was originally supposed to be recruitable. I don't think Cullen was.

Oh thank God, the last thing we need is someone whos sounds more annoying than dog and schmooples. Combined.

jk jk

[Shutterbones]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

tysandri wrote...
I like to artistically interpret things, being an artist and a writer, so I really get attached to the possibility and open-ended story left with him. :]

So, imagine if a female mage, hwom he has a crush on, decides to side with the Templars. Eventually Cullen becomes Knight Commander and reigns with an iron fist. Do you think that this female mage can moderate him? Can get close to him by that point?

It would be an ironic shift. You had Cullen before trying to be close to the female mage and she didn't notice him. And then you have the femal mage trying to get closer to Cullen and he ignores her.

The romanticized description of the female mage origin is seen as a sort of tragic romeo-and-juliet sort of ordeal. Both from "Families" that "hate" each other. By stereotype, mages are supposed to be dangerous and evil and hate templars because they are basically created to opress them and kill them if necessary should they step out of line. And by stereotype, templars are supposed to be detached and relentless in their duty to subdue and keep mages on their proper leashes, regardless of how serious and terrifying the consequences, so generally they are seen as rather cold, impending figures of discipline rather than human beings.

With me, the story was a crazy snowball idea of "what ifs?" that turned into something ridiciculous and a possibility I didn't think could happen--what if, by some insane, crazy chance, there was the story of how Cullen fell in love with a mage? How would that story go? How would it end? For me, it doesn't end with [SPOILER] Cullen going crazy in the end and killing three mages. That feels like a beginning to me. The story could continue on in my mind. Maybe my mage goes back to the tower? Maybe she recruits him? Maybe he goes on some bloodhunt to find her after killing the mages and blames her for the tower coming under attack?

There's so, so many possibilities with him. And I did in fact get the crazy ending with him haha. My mage may have been a really huge ****, but when it came to the other mages in the tower, she refused to let them just left to their fate of death or worse.