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[sylvanaerie]

I don't know when its due for release or if it might be out already but here is the link for Cmessaz's Cullen mod on the projects board here.  There are pics on her gallery page of her elf and human testers.  It really adds a nice little kiss, a cutscene when you leave and restores some lost dialogue for him in the Tower later.  Plus you get a little gift from him (amulet) when you first see him in the tower and trigger the romance.

http://social.biowar...ect/3655/#files

[Annie_Dear]

Avilia wrote...

For a relatively minor character he gets an epilogue slide. That's a bit odd now I think of it.

He certainly smells of unfulfilled potential to me.

Indeed. I hope we run into him in the later games, aswell.

Exile Isan wrote...

He's mentioned in Witch Hunt you know.

I haven't played Witch Hunt. When and where is he mentioned?

[sylvanaerie]

Annie_Dear wrote...

Avilia wrote...

For a relatively minor character he gets an epilogue slide. That's a bit odd now I think of it.

He certainly smells of unfulfilled potential to me.

Indeed. I hope we run into him in the later games, aswell.

Exile Isan wrote...

He's mentioned in Witch Hunt you know.

I haven't played Witch Hunt. When and where is he mentioned?

I think its if you don't take the "free the mages boon" and DON'T annul the circle.  Then I think its overheard as an ambient comment (this from those who heard it, I personally don't have WH so this is unconfirmed)  Obviously you have to be a mage if the "free the mages boon" is not taken.

[Aeowyn]

He's mentioned if you take the free the circle boon. Not if you annul the Circle. At least he was when my mage did Witch Hunt.

I hope you meet him in later games. He's just a too interesting character to have such a small role.

Wrote a couple of one shots after getting inspiration from Cme's project and testing it. Will post them later.

[sylvanaerie]

Aeowyn wrote...

He's mentioned if you take the free the circle boon. Not if you annul the Circle. At least he was when my mage did Witch Hunt.
I hope you meet him in later games. He's just a too interesting character to have such a small role.
Wrote a couple of one shots after getting inspiration from Cme's project and testing it. Will post them later.

OH dear, I see what the templar's 'official' story is on it.  If you free the mages at the end, but don't annul the circle, Cullen goes off his trolley and slaughters several apprentices before being hauled off to Aeonar.  But they must have told the mages "he's in the countryside recouperating".  Dang I thought it was something better than that

[Aeowyn]

Well, I'm hoping this is before he goes nutters. I just don't want him to become a mad man (

[Sarah1281]

Wow, I just thought it meant that he was trying to recover and THEN snapped and went crazy. That's a much more disturbing idea, especially so soon after Origins ended.

[Aeowyn]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Wow, I just thought it meant that he was trying to recover and THEN snapped and went crazy. That's a much more disturbing idea, especially so soon after Origins ended.

That's what I thought as well!

But.. wouldn't those gossiping mages have mentioned something about his apprentice killing then?

Modifié par Aeowyn, 29 octobre 2010 - 05:34 .

[Sarah1281]

They 'failed their Harrowing'?

[Aeowyn]

Hm guess we'll never know, but I was under the impression that there would be witnessess.

[Shutterbones]

If I remember correctly doesn't Witch Hunt supposedly take place a few years after the end of Origins? So maybe if you got the slide where he killed the three mages (which is what happened to me) and then a few years later your female mage returns, and overhears gossip that he's staying somewhere to recuperate by Greagoir's orders and recollect himself, and then he can come back when he feels better? That's what I overheard, anyway haha.



And the only details I remember about the three apprentices was just that they were apprentices. I didn't know it was because of their Harrowing Cullen killed them. Could it have been? Maybe he was doing it to protect everyone, I don't know. That's unfair they left it so mysterious and open-ended. I'd like to know what in the heck happened that day. xD

[Miri1984]

I think DG thinks Cullen is destined to be creepy and insane, which is sad considering he's so lovely at the Tower when you flirt with him. I know it's meta-gaming but I never request the tower be freed as my boon, considering it's NOT freed according to Wynne no matter what you request.

[Sarah1281]

I don't think WH takes place THAT much after DA does although the timeline is really screwed up.

[Reaverwind]

Does anyone know if there's any dialogue about Cullen in WH if playing a female mage who did NOT ask for the Mage boon?

[Avilia]

Miri1984 wrote...

I think DG thinks Cullen is destined to be creepy and insane, which is sad considering he's so lovely at the Tower when you flirt with him. I know it's meta-gaming but I never request the tower be freed as my boon, considering it's NOT freed according to Wynne no matter what you request.

In one of the DA2 threads DG (I think it was DG) says that the Chantry refuses to allow it.  So even more reason not to bother imho.

I'll see if I can dig up the thread...

Found it!  I think I need to spend less time reading the forums and more time doing...something else.

Linky

Modifié par Avilia, 29 octobre 2010 - 08:57 .

[Avilia]

Reaverwind wrote...

Does anyone know if there's any dialogue about Cullen in WH if playing a female mage who did NOT ask for the Mage boon?

I ran WH on a dead mage who'd US'd.  The crown granted the boon during the funeral.  I am not sure if that sets the flag or not.

I did not get the Cullen dialogue from the mages in the library.  Just the other chatter.

If someone has run it with a live mage who didn't asked for the boon, I'm happy to be contradicted

[Reaverwind]

Avilia wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Does anyone know if there's any dialogue about Cullen in WH if playing a female mage who did NOT ask for the Mage boon?

I ran WH on a dead mage who'd US'd.  The crown granted the boon during the funeral.  I am not sure if that sets the flag or not.

I did not get the Cullen dialogue from the mages in the library.  Just the other chatter.

If someone has run it with a live mage who didn't asked for the boon, I'm happy to be contradicted

I imagine the flag probably does not get set, considering how Bioware handles US Wardens in Awakening.

[Sarah1281]

There is no save after you choose to do the US so I doubt it would flag.

[Ryzaki]

Reaverwind wrote...



I imagine the flag probably does not get set, considering how Bioware handles US Wardens in Awakening.

Just thinking about that upsets me because my first warden (my first canon good guy warden). Committed the US. Gah.

[Shutterbones]

Reaverwind wrote...

Avilia wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Does anyone know if there's any dialogue about Cullen in WH if playing a female mage who did NOT ask for the Mage boon?

I ran WH on a dead mage who'd US'd.  The crown granted the boon during the funeral.  I am not sure if that sets the flag or not.

I did not get the Cullen dialogue from the mages in the library.  Just the other chatter.

If someone has run it with a live mage who didn't asked for the boon, I'm happy to be contradicted

I imagine the flag probably does not get set, considering how Bioware handles US Wardens in Awakening.

I may have had it without the boon and a live mage in Awakening, though it's been so long I'd need to recheck and look at my logs from Origins. I'll have to get back to you on that one.

[Shutterbones]

Also I just stumbled across this mod while browsing Dragon Age Nexus forums:

http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=990

In the description I was startled to see the mod creator says that in Cullen's chr file, he's labeled as age 24. That literally shocked me out of my mind, because I had assumed from the moment I saw him that he was at least in his 30s, if not 40s. What do you guys say about this? I can't actually look at the chr file, assuming you open it in the Toolset, since I'm currently having issues getting the Toolset running, but if Cullen is truly 24, then why do you suppose he looks so much older?

Also, to start up some more topic, what is your theory or fantasized idea about what happened to Cullen prior to joining the Circle order of templars? I have my own ideas that mold into my PC mage's story which I can share, but I'd like to hear other's ideas about what his past and future in Dragon Age was like.

EDIT: Haha nevermind about the age thing, found  a topic regarding the CHR listed age things explained by David Gaider, quoted here by another user-->

pc6311 wrote...

Luchaire wrote...

I'll save you the guesswork. Here's their ages as listed in the toolset:

Alistair = 32
Morrigan = 30
Sten = 30
Shale = 500
Leliana = 26
Dog = 3
Oghren = 35
Zevran = 24
Wynne = 55
Loghain = 50

This is what David Gaider had to say about this in Spoilers forum.

Ahhhh... that's info for the VO people. It's an apparent age and gives a range for the actor, not his actual age.

Don't say Alistair is 32...apparently it scares David....

Good, because it would scare me were Cullen really 24. That seems an impossiblity to me, just out of personal effect and experience. xD

Modifié par tysandri, 13 novembre 2010 - 04:20 .

[sylvanaerie]

I placed Cullen at about the same age as Alistair (Early 20s). It's more than his appearance, he just seems very young and naive. My morph reflects this age and its the one I go by in my fics.

Accurate or not...I just like it better that way.

[Sarah1281]

Yeah, I find it much less creepy for a man in his early twenties to be (mildly?) obsessed with a mage in her late teens/early twenties than a man in his thirties/forties.

[Shutterbones]

Maybe I'm just part of a strange corner that thinks oppositely, I dunno haha. I've always just had this assumption that perhaps for a larger portion of his life has been spent in the Chantry around mostly men and the Revered Mother, so it wouldn't matter what his age was. I just assumed he acted so shy and sheepish around the female mage because he was simply not adjusted to being around women in general, so conversation would be awkward for him, no? That's just my opinion.



That and he obviously looks a lot older than mid-20s, so that just added more to my affirmation I believed he had to be at least in his 30s if not early 40s, which doesn't deter me in the least. I kind of like the idea of an older, weathered templar with a bit of a shy displacement around females. It's what sets him so much apart from Alistair in my mind, who is an example of an untrained templar who is just awkward because he's young and inexperienced.

[Asepsis]

I loved Cullen, so sad he turned out the way he did though. My mage was depressed.