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[Shutterbones]

If only David Gaider could tell us the truth of Cullen's mysterious age haha. I could sleep easier at night, to be honest.

[Asepsis]

I don't know why I thought he was probably like 25-26, the way he talks makes him sound younger though. I just figured he was sheltered in the Circle of Magi so he is/was a bit naive which made him seem younger than he looks.

Modifié par Asepsis, 13 novembre 2010 - 05:43 .

[Shutterbones]

Asepsis wrote...

I don't know why I thought he was probably like 25-26, the way he talks makes him sound younger though. I just figured he was sheltered in the Circle of Magi so he is/was a bit naive which made him seem younger than he looks.

That's what I've always assumed. Most templars are sheltered as is, and by the way he acts I assumed he hadn't been at the tower very long, so thus his behaviour was different. Freshly out-of-the-oven recruits from the Chantry are, by assumption, probably going to be a lot more skittish in a more socially relaxed and interactive environment like the Circle, as opposed to the templar boys who have been there for a while and feel more comfortable around the mages or more imposed to throw their authority about without hesitation. Cullen just seems to be caught in that awkward phase of not knowing how to handle this newness of his environment and abrupt change from strict Chantry training.

At least that's what I like to assume.

[Asepsis]

tysandri wrote...

That's what I've always assumed. Most templars are sheltered as is, and by the way he acts I assumed he hadn't been at the tower very long, so thus his behaviour was different. Freshly out-of-the-oven recruits from the Chantry are, by assumption, probably going to be a lot more skittish in a more socially relaxed and interactive environment like the Circle, as opposed to the templar boys who have been there for a while and feel more comfortable around the mages or more imposed to throw their authority about without hesitation. Cullen just seems to be caught in that awkward phase of not knowing how to handle this newness of his environment and abrupt change from strict Chantry training.

At least that's what I like to assume.

I agree, it actually makes complete sense with his change in personality. Since he was kind of in that transition phase the whole events of the Broken Cirlce quest could easily of messed him up.  He probably wasn't there long enough to get to know the mages as well as Greagoir or the older Templars (Some of which were really nice.). I really feel like he could have been turned back though, if he had a friend there to talk some reason into him.

[Shutterbones]

Asepsis wrote...

tysandri wrote...

That's what I've always assumed. Most templars are sheltered as is, and by the way he acts I assumed he hadn't been at the tower very long, so thus his behaviour was different. Freshly out-of-the-oven recruits from the Chantry are, by assumption, probably going to be a lot more skittish in a more socially relaxed and interactive environment like the Circle, as opposed to the templar boys who have been there for a while and feel more comfortable around the mages or more imposed to throw their authority about without hesitation. Cullen just seems to be caught in that awkward phase of not knowing how to handle this newness of his environment and abrupt change from strict Chantry training.

At least that's what I like to assume.

I agree, it actually makes complete sense with his change in personality. Since he was kind of in that transition phase the whole events of the Broken Cirlce quest could easily of messed him up.  He probably wasn't there long enough to get to know the mages as well as Greagoir or the older Templars (Some of which were really nice.). I really feel like he could have been turned back though, if he had a friend there to talk some reason into him.

My thoughts exactly haha. See, if you compare his personality and how he acts in the beginning of the game versus the abrupt and radically different appearance he gives during the Broken Circle quest, there's a definite lack of childish naivety there.

It does make me so sad he had to face the horrors of Uldred and his dark minions alone. However, it also brings into speculation just how much power does Cullen hold if he was the only one left that Uldred could not get to? Kind of puts his "boyish, bashful" persona on standby when you think about just how strong of a templar he had to be in order to resist that kind of power from a very dark mage. That also leads me to believe Cullen has a lot of untapped potential and perhaps does or doesn't realize just how strong he is. That or he's just trained for a very, very long time and has a higher concentration of control over himself and his powers. I mean, he does sort of stand out against other templars, even in the beginning haha.

It does lead to a lot of questions though, I must say. That and if you get the crazy epilogue, it ensues he basically goes insane and kills three apprentices, was it? That screams "untapped hidden power" to me in more than one way, just in my opinion. Maybe he doesn't have as much control as he thinks?

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

The mage origin my favorite, my canon. Yet my mage did not free the circle for alot of reasons.



As far as Cullen goes, he would have made a cool romance option before he went mental, but a fun non-romance companion after he went mental. Especially with Morrigan in the party, lol.



***picturing cutscenes in camp with Cullen running around trying to holy smite Morrigan as she runs screaming and casting curse of mortality and misdirection on him****



I really wish we could have had more contact with him in the game, even if nothing else, as a mini boss later if he escapes from the tower.

[Asepsis]

tysandri wrote...

It does lead to a lot of questions though, I must say. That and if you get the crazy epilogue, it ensues he basically goes insane and kills three apprentices, was it? That screams "untapped hidden power" to me in more than one way, just in my opinion. Maybe he doesn't have as much control as he thinks?

You know that never crossed my mind but now that you've mentioned it's really true. It could also have been that he wasn't as jaded as the rest of the Templars you know, he was still "pure" kind of in his thinking. He didn't have enough time to become bitter, or resentful. I'm thinking Uldred was able to take advantage of the other templars and mages through appealing to their selfishness/bitterness at being stuck at the Tower. Yet, Cullen probably does have a lot of potential, no doubt of that. He does end up as Commander of the Tower if you side with the Templars right?

@Skadi: I would have loved that! Lol! AU fan art popping into my head, wish I could draw! Lol! I'm still hoping we might bump into him in DA2, depanding on what we did in DA:O. Perhaps we find him hunting apostates in the woods or something.

I could totally see him as a romance option in DA2 for fem Hawke.

[Sarah1281]

He does end up as Commander of the Tower if you side with the Templars right?

Yes, but I don't think that's a good thing because he's even more strict and oppressive than Greagoir which seems actually counterintuitive if you want to prevent another rebellion which I assume is his goal.

[Asepsis]

Sarah1281 wrote...

He does end up as Commander of the Tower if you side with the Templars right?

Yes, but I don't think that's a good thing because he's even more strict and oppressive than Greagoir which seems actually counterintuitive if you want to prevent another rebellion which I assume is his goal.

I don't either, I was just saying the fact he ends up Commander suggest he's really talented at being a Templar, like tysandri was saying.

[Shutterbones]

Asepsis wrote...

tysandri wrote...

It does lead to a lot of questions though, I must say. That and if you get the crazy epilogue, it ensues he basically goes insane and kills three apprentices, was it? That screams "untapped hidden power" to me in more than one way, just in my opinion. Maybe he doesn't have as much control as he thinks?

You know that never crossed my mind but now that you've mentioned it's really true. It could also have been that he wasn't as jaded as the rest of the Templars you know, he was still "pure" kind of in his thinking. He didn't have enough time to become bitter, or resentful. I'm thinking Uldred was able to take advantage of the other templars and mages through appealing to their selfishness/bitterness at being stuck at the Tower. Yet, Cullen probably does have a lot of potential, no doubt of that. He does end up as Commander of the Tower if you side with the Templars right?

@Skadi: I would have loved that! Lol! AU fan art popping into my head, wish I could draw! Lol! I'm still hoping we might bump into him in DA2, depanding on what we did in DA:O. Perhaps we find him hunting apostates in the woods or something.

I could totally see him as a romance option in DA2 for fem Hawke.

Also @Skadi: I just cracked up imagining that. I might just need to draw that now.

And yeah I agree with that. He seems to be the ideal templar mentality from the chantry point of view. He has a lot of discipline, I can say at the least. That and LOL I just imagined in DA2 seeing him pop out from behind some bushes and try and tackle Bethany xDD What an awful cameo that would be for him (though sadly accurate/hilarious..)

x] His insanity is endearing.

[Asepsis]

@tysandri: Except for the murderous rampage at the end, the crazy scene with him was endearing, my mage felt bad for him.

OMG it would be so win if you're apostate Hawke was just chilling out, walking through the woods with her buddies and WHAM! Cullen in nothing but his small clothes jumps out from behind a large tree and attacks you! Wait, he needs the Thane helmet on to make it even better, and perhaps a greatsword.

Short scene even shorter, you recruit him Zevran style and over time change his insane mage hating ways.

I wish wish wish we'd bump into him again!!! Especially if we imported a mage Warden storyline into DA2.

Modifié par Asepsis, 16 novembre 2010 - 12:41 .

[Shutterbones]

Asepsis wrote...

@tysandri: Except for the murderous rampage at the end, the crazy scene with him was endearing, my mage felt bad for him.

OMG it would be so win if you're apostate Hawke was just chilling out, walking through the woods with her buddies and WHAM! Cullen in nothing but his small clothes jumps out from behind a large tree and attacks you! Wait, he needs the Thane helmet on to make it even better, and perhaps a greatsword.

Short scene even shorter, you recruit him Zevran style and over time change his insane mage hating ways.

I wish wish wish we'd bump into him again!!! Especially if we imported a mage Warden storyline into DA2.

HAHA oh my god  that idea CRACKS me up so bad! xD Okay we need to tell the writers this immediately. I refuse to let DA2 go without this amazing idea lol. I mean we'll need a new templar to fill Alistair's shoes in DA2 anyway, right? Cullen can do the job. Ten fold.

[Asepsis]

Yes! I think a raging, insane Templar will be a lot of fun!

[duckley]

Hopefuly I havent missed this question.... if so apologies in advance for duplication...
Do we know what Cullen's full name is?

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

duckley wrote...

Hopefuly I havent missed this question.... if so apologies in advance for duplication...
Do we know what Cullen's full name is?

No. Nor do we know if Cullen is his given or surname, at least not for certain. Some people in the game go by first names, some by family names.

As far as Cullen's age goes, I;'d guess about mid 20's, 25-26 range. He could have been doing other things before becoming a templar, or could have been stationed elsehwere on non-mage related duty or assignment, and just relatively recently been assigned to the circle.

[duckley]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

duckley wrote...

Hopefuly I havent missed this question.... if so apologies in advance for duplication...
Do we know what Cullen's full name is?

No. Nor do we know if Cullen is his given or surname, at least not for certain. Some people in the game go by first names, some by family names.

As far as Cullen's age goes, I;'d guess about mid 20's, 25-26 range. He could have been doing other things before becoming a templar, or could have been stationed elsehwere on non-mage related duty or assignment, and just relatively recently been assigned to the circle.

Thanks - I do find him an intriguing charactor.

[Marduksdragon]

I too would have rather had Cullen in the party rather than Alistair. One thing he actually understands what the tower was like-- like Jowan does-- just from the other side. Another thing is that I'd like to have dealt canonly with someone actually addicted to lyrium. When it was mentioned in game I was like "oh, awesome, depth for Al at last" just like I felt when I thought he was under a vow of chastity and not just insanely nervous--- but no... cop out. Cullen's somewhat creepy fascination with F!Amell and F!Surana could be chalked up to things other than just desire (which I think it couldn't be totally or the demon would have had him)--- like kindness and commiseration. Mages HATE Templars for the most part-- except for this one girl who smiles at Cullen and talks sweetly to him-- easing those long hours of nervous watching and dark glances from the others. Depending on what kind of vibes you're getting off the pair of them, it may all come down to two miserable prisoners sharing their loneliness. That would certainly make her more beautiful to him than anyone else-- and make him want to keep that connection open without risking either of their lives (ie: why he ran off beyond just being flustered-- Aeonar is not a nice place). Also to "protect" and "keep all to himself" like Gaider suggested. That's a reflex move for characters who have nothing else to lose but the object of their obsession. That emptiness, the addiction, the vows, the monstorous "will" that lurks inside him to resist powerful demons and starvation and lyrium withdrawal, may not make for a good LI necessarily (without some kind of heavy catharsis and 'therapy') but it does make for an interesting character. Especially with some aspects of the fanon added-- like the idea of Greagoir being his father. I love that (partially because I think Greagoir is completely badass).

Far as minor things-- The stutter is adorable because it's an unusual flaw-- most people go for scars, missing eyes, etc. The fact that it disappears when he's angry or serious is rather disturbing in a good way--- that monster will shining through. I would have enjoyed Zevran teasing him about that stutter-- possibly stuttering out responses to Cullen until he became furious and told him to be silent.

I kind of had the feeling that the Tower wasn't some kind of honorable duty for a Templar-- but an unspoken prison for Templars who are too powerful or unstable or whatever to be anywhere else. It would make sense given their code of conduct seems markedly different than, say, the Templars in Lothering. Just a thought.

Also, the first married Templar I think is Ser Henric, the dead guy you find on the road outside Lothering. Doesn't the knight you give his personal effects to mention his family?

Modifié par Marduksdragon, 19 février 2011 - 09:22 .

[Selenora]

I adore Cullen. Have read all his fanfic...played Karma mod twice and planning on third....Just letting you know that there are other Culen fans here..only too lazy to post lol

[lost lupus]

he's a loon that said i hope he becomes inutter who hunts down mages for no reason at all
"ie" you hear it as a rumor

also you have to take the boon if your a mage to hear the cullen convo in WH
it also allows you to see that for all wynnes chantry worship shes really just a coward
to afraid to stand against the chantry (awakening)

[Selenora]

Asepsis wrote...


I wish wish wish we'd bump into him again!!! Especially if we imported a mage Warden storyline into DA2.

Carefull of what you wish )

[gethspy]

Why?
he wasn't exactly a major character

[Shutterbones]

So this thread fell apart after I abandoned it for a while.

I intend to rectify it now that DA2 has been out for some time and we now know Cullen is in DA2!! I personally haven't finished playing the game yet (though I think I'm close!)

Cullen has changed a bit in DA2. He seemed like he "grew up" in a sense, and his stutter lessened. XD I thought that was just adorable.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I thought he was a complete idiot in DA2. Far from being the only one (understatement of the decade), but there you go.

[Sir Edric]

There's just something very interesting with Cullen, IMO. I dunno why, maybe it's because he is a templar. He was kinda stupid in DA2, though. But still, he should have a bigger role in DA3 (though not a squad member).

Anyway, this mod made me a fan of Cullen.

Modifié par Vrex_12, 15 juillet 2011 - 08:59 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Sorry, I've got no love for Cullen, after reading the epilogue and what he does to my fellow mages...