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[Stronghold II]

 No: This is NOT a MMO, there are no "overpowered" classes. Get over it.

 No: This is not Halo, there is no mindless "pwnage" you must think and use proper tactics. Get over it.

 No: You cannot respec your character. Think about the choices you make. There is no "perfect" build in a single player RPG. Get over it.

 Yes: Bioware will fix the bugs. Bioware actually cares.

 Yes: Dragon Age's main focus is on story. There are lots of cutscenes and lots of dialog. Kinda something Bioware is known for........

 No: Demon's Souls is not a real RPG and is nothing more than a mindless hack -n- slash game that shoud not be compared to anything Bioware has ever done, much less this game.

 Yes: I'd go gay for Alistair right now.........on my desk......right now.

 No: I'm not really gay.

 No: There is no "perfect" group. Use who you like the best. Every possible party make up combination will be able to complete this game.

 Yes: I am well aware that my toon looks like Santa, and the red and white Blood Dragon Armor does not help the situation one bit.

 Continue......

Modifié par Stronghold II, 14 novembre 2009 - 01:41 .

[BluesMan1956]

Excellent post. How about:

No: It's not too hard on Easy/Casual

No: It's not too easy on Nightmare

No: The developers are not interested in every single change in design you insist would make it "better"

Yes: There are problems with the BETA Social site and...

Yes: these problems are being worked on as resources permit, and...

No: You still don't understand what BETA means, do you?

[dragero]

*Gasp* Alistair is on Santa's naughty list.

[allothernamesweretaken]

" No: Demon's Souls is not a real RPG and is nothing more than a mindless hack -n- slash game "



Listen, if you think Demons Souls is mindless, you obviously never played it, or you're an absolutely godlike gamer, that we should all bow down to.



Other than that, YES ****ING THANK YOU

[Taleroth]

Stronghold II wrote...

 Yes: Dragon Age's main focus is on story. There are lots of cutscenes and lots of dialog. Kinda something Bioware is known for........

Contrary to popular belief: Dialogue and cutscenes are not the only way to present a story.  They can be used as a  tool to that end, but do not confuse one for the other.

[Stronghold II]

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

" No: Demon's Souls is not a real RPG and is nothing more than a mindless hack -n- slash game "

Listen, if you think Demons Souls is mindless, you obviously never played it, or you're an absolutely godlike gamer, that we should all bow down to.

Other than that, YES ****ING THANK YOU

 I actually have played Demon's Souls and I am a bit confused by what people have to say about the game. First off the game has no depth or purpose. You grind souls till you level up.......that's about it.....the same mobs.......over and over.........

 Then look at how terrible the enemy AI is. People say it is hard? No. The enemies are constanty attacking walls and running themselves off of ledges and cliffs. They also do pretty much the exact same thing no matter what tactics you use. It's stupid, lazy, and predictable AI.

 Oh, and the game has no soul. 


 Back on topic.

 Yes: My opinion is all that matters.

Modifié par Stronghold II, 11 novembre 2009 - 10:51 .

[BluesMan1956]

No: The purpose of this thread was NOT to allow you to reinforce the argument you have tried to make elsewhere in so many threads

Yes: You can make your point, but you MUST phrase it properly

No: Whining is not allowed here.

Yes: There is a difference between TACTICAL combat at single player / group combat.

[BluesMan1956]

Stronghold II wrote...
 Yes: My opinion is all that matters.

Yes: You must listen to Santa!

[allothernamesweretaken]

Taleroth wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...

 Yes: Dragon Age's main focus is on story. There are lots of cutscenes and lots of dialog. Kinda something Bioware is known for........

Contrary to popular belief: Dialogue and cutscenes are not the only way to present a story.  They can be used as a  tool to that end, but do not confuse one for the other.

I don't think we should hold Not-Being-Valve against an RPG.

[Dragon Age1103]

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

" No: Demon's Souls is not a real RPG and is nothing more than a mindless hack -n- slash game "

Listen, if you think Demons Souls is mindless, you obviously never played it, or you're an absolutely godlike gamer, that we should all bow down to.

Other than that, YES ****ING THANK YOU

I really want to play it b/c I've watched a couple reviews & I honestly doubt it can even live up to Oblivion. most reviews are paid off to put in a good word for PS3's only RPG of their own. Plus it looks like another Oblivion. I don't think making a game so you die in one or two hits makes it challenging & that is what every review I have read or seen states & often. So I'm not impressed but can't judge until i play it but either way without playing it I can tell you for a fact it can not live up to DA:O for story telling. I doubt it tells a story through character convos, party members, cut scenes, notes, books, word around town as u stroll by.

[JamesX]

Taleroth wrote...
Contrary to popular belief: Dialogue and cutscenes are not the only way to present a story.  They can be used as a  tool to that end, but do not confuse one for the other.

While having dialogue and cutscenes doesn't automatically make a game having a story.  But lacking dialogue and cutscenes the game will be lacking a story.
No: Having a background and half-assed story to make an excuse to hack and slash does not make it a story.

[Stronghold II]

BluesMan1956 wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...
 Yes: My opinion is all that matters.

Yes: You must listen to Santa!

 Ho Ho HO Mother #%^^$&^!!!!!!







 Truckers......you have a dirty mind.

[Dragon Age1103]

Stronghold II wrote...

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

" No: Demon's Souls is not a real RPG and is nothing more than a mindless hack -n- slash game "

Listen, if you think Demons Souls is mindless, you obviously never played it, or you're an absolutely godlike gamer, that we should all bow down to.

Other than that, YES ****ING THANK YOU

 I actually have played Demon's Souls and I am a bit confused by what people have to say about the game. First off the game has no depth or purpose. You grind souls till you level up.......that's about it.....the same mobs.......over and over.........

 Then look at how terrible the enemy AI is. People say it is hard? No. The enemies are constanty attacking walls and running themselves off of ledges and cliffs. They also do pretty much the exact same thing no matter what tactics you use. It's stupid, lazy, and predictable AI.

 Oh, and the game has no soul. 


 Back on topic.

 Yes: My opinion is all that matters.

 HAHA first off I love your post agreed with everything second I hope its true you played DS & that its that terrible b/c after the xbox came out I just count the PS3 s an epic fail so your rant put a smile on my face. Any game called demon souls can't be too in depth on anything but demons & souls...maybe hacking & slashing too!!!!!

[Jaackalope]

dragero wrote...

*Gasp* Alistair is on Santa's naughty list.

[Taleroth]

JamesX wrote...

Taleroth wrote...
Contrary to popular belief: Dialogue and cutscenes are not the only way to present a story.  They can be used as a  tool to that end, but do not confuse one for the other.

While having dialogue and cutscenes doesn't automatically make a game having a story.  But lacking dialogue and cutscenes the game will be lacking a story.
No: Having a background and half-assed story to make an excuse to hack and slash does not make it a story.

There's very little that can be done in a cutscene that can not be done while still allowing control over a character.  The prime difference being dramatic camera angles, far from critical to storytelling. 

Only the daft would claim a history book is lacking in story, yet they rarely have dialogue.

Modifié par Taleroth, 11 novembre 2009 - 11:00 .

[Stronghold II]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

" No: Demon's Souls is not a real RPG and is nothing more than a mindless hack -n- slash game "

Listen, if you think Demons Souls is mindless, you obviously never played it, or you're an absolutely godlike gamer, that we should all bow down to.

Other than that, YES ****ING THANK YOU

I really want to play it b/c I've watched a couple reviews & I honestly doubt it can even live up to Oblivion. most reviews are paid off to put in a good word for PS3's only RPG of their own. Plus it looks like another Oblivion. I don't think making a game so you die in one or two hits makes it challenging & that is what every review I have read or seen states & often. So I'm not impressed but can't judge until i play it but either way without playing it I can tell you for a fact it can not live up to DA:O for story telling. I doubt it tells a story through character convos, party members, cut scenes, notes, books, word around town as u stroll by.

 It's nothing like Oblivion at all.

 and there is NO story..........okay well there is a few lines of dialog that tell you barely anything.

 Seriously, all you do is kill mobs over and over, move to the next area, kill mobs over and over. You grind souls (mobs) to level up and in order to do so you MUST exit and enter the same area multiple times in order to kill the same mobs.......over and over, to gain your souls........over and over.

 It's pointless, and it's not hard.

[JamesX]

History book is also not a game. And no History book is not a story (in respect to a game).

No one would call a History Book "Storytelling". it is a sheet of facts and dates and dry interpertations. Otherwise it will be called historical fiction.

I think you are confusing text and information with story. c++ code is not storytelling. A news report is not story telling. Those are just information.

[Stronghold II]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

" No: Demon's Souls is not a real RPG and is nothing more than a mindless hack -n- slash game "

Listen, if you think Demons Souls is mindless, you obviously never played it, or you're an absolutely godlike gamer, that we should all bow down to.

Other than that, YES ****ING THANK YOU

 I actually have played Demon's Souls and I am a bit confused by what people have to say about the game. First off the game has no depth or purpose. You grind souls till you level up.......that's about it.....the same mobs.......over and over.........

 Then look at how terrible the enemy AI is. People say it is hard? No. The enemies are constanty attacking walls and running themselves off of ledges and cliffs. They also do pretty much the exact same thing no matter what tactics you use. It's stupid, lazy, and predictable AI.

 Oh, and the game has no soul. 


 Back on topic.

 Yes: My opinion is all that matters.

 HAHA first off I love your post agreed with everything second I hope its true you played DS & that its that terrible b/c after the xbox came out I just count the PS3 s an epic fail so your rant put a smile on my face. Any game called demon souls can't be too in depth on anything but demons & souls...maybe hacking & slashing too!!!!!

 Demons and souls pretty much sums it up........over and over and over and over and over......

[Taleroth]

Dialogue is not storytelling, it's just words.



Amazing how that works.

[Dragon Age1103]

I see, I see. Well my main concern is honestly a stupid one but it is mine. In DA:O, Baldur's Gate, Diablo, Champions of Norrath, Sacred 2. I will always sacrifice stats on armor like tier 6 instead of 7 for a full matching set that I like & honestly every screen i saw of DS the main character looked like a hump-back or extra retarded looking LotR cave troll. I admit I have an immediate prejudice against the game b/c its on PS3 but even if it wasn't I'm not really impressed but I do like to try games like that so I can say my opinion is my own & no influences from what I've only heard & not seen or done for myself.

[Dragon Age1103]

Taleroth wrote...

Dialogue is not storytelling, it's just words.

Amazing how that works.

 I'm so confused on your issue with dialogue is not story telling line. lol. New college student obsessed with his recent discoveries of writing technicalities? bored? trying to annoying ppl? or just stuck on repeat?
    just curious since u have me at a loss. If someone is talking about the plot of the game to your character how is that not telling a story or giving details about the main quest?
   Then again running on 29 hours awake so forgive me if i  got lost in all that!!!


pretty sure i replied to the wrong posteer??? lol oh well

Modifié par Dragon Age1103, 11 novembre 2009 - 11:08 .

[JamesX]

Dialgoue is story telling. If its badly done it is simply BADLY done storytelling. Your logic is seriously flawed.



History book no matter how well done is just history - it is not storytelling. Otherwise it is historical fiction.



1854 Queen Victoria advanced on the spanish fleet and destroyed them utterly. The reprecussions of this action will be felt through out the european continent for the next 50 years.



Is not tale telling.



So the stupid youth blinded by lust advanced on the streets of rome and encountered his arch nemesis.

archnemesis 1: "Yo dude, what is that over yonder?"

flunky 1: "It is the pedophile Romeo no doubt."



That is badly done storytelling, but still storytelling.

[Stronghold II]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

I see, I see. Well my main concern is honestly a stupid one but it is mine. In DA:O, Baldur's Gate, Diablo, Champions of Norrath, Sacred 2. I will always sacrifice stats on armor like tier 6 instead of 7 for a full matching set that I like & honestly every screen i saw of DS the main character looked like a hump-back or extra retarded looking LotR cave troll. I admit I have an immediate prejudice against the game b/c its on PS3 but even if it wasn't I'm not really impressed but I do like to try games like that so I can say my opinion is my own & no influences from what I've only heard & not seen or done for myself.

 I'm the same way, I must try a game out for myself, no mater what has been said and no matter how many people have said it.

 Give it a rent........

[Lord Beretor]

Who said this is an MMO?

Massive Multiplayer online... Not much multi involved.

[elgato2067]

Taleroth wrote...

JamesX wrote...

Taleroth wrote...
Contrary to popular belief: Dialogue and cutscenes are not the only way to present a story.  They can be used as a  tool to that end, but do not confuse one for the other.

While having dialogue and cutscenes doesn't automatically make a game having a story.  But lacking dialogue and cutscenes the game will be lacking a story.
No: Having a background and half-assed story to make an excuse to hack and slash does not make it a story.

There's very little that can be done in a cutscene that can not be done while still allowing control over a character.  The prime difference being dramatic camera angles, far from critical to storytelling. 

Only the daft would claim a history book is lacking in story, yet they rarely have dialogue.

Dialogue in an RPG allows you to have some control in how the story develops.  It also immerses you in the story.  A history book tells an inflexible story that the reader has no control of from beginning to end.