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Question, I had previously bought and beat Dragon age collectors edition disc version for PC. I have just today bought DAO ultimate edition fron D2D and the only thing it has is the original game and awakening in the DLC page. all my DLC from collectors edition and new DLC supposed to be included with the ultimate edition (excluding awakening) say I Am unauthorized. I used the same bioware/EA account for both registrations. Can anybody tell me how to enable everything at once?? I have only ever had 1 email address and am thus confused. Also strange is that I can now play Awakening but the DLC which I activated with a promo code from the same Email that had the activation for Awakening is listed as unauthorized:( Can someone please help or at least direct me where to go for help? I tried to figure it out with EA tech support and email them but their site is a POS.

Yes, the EA Support site is worthless.  And the "help" provided by the Tech Support staff is only marginally less so.

But to your issue: The recommendation from the BioWare staff is to UNinstall your original version of the game (keeping your characters and Saved Games, of course), and then  install UE.  Due to the file packaging and install routines used for the UE (which, among other things, takes you to patch level 1.04 automagically) it does not integrate well with an existing instance of DA.  The authorization codes provided with the UE are unique to that version, so if it didn't install the materials it won't know anything about them...

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 10 novembre 2010 - 06:30 .


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Does anyone know which patch comes with UE.

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1.01

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Is there any word on releasing a dlc only disc or bundle? I'm waiting to find out before I take my next steps. If I trade in Origins and Awakening then it could be cheaper for me to buy the Ultimate Edition than the dlc, it could be even cheaper if I just had to buy the dlc.

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well I ordered ue for the pc from amazon today, should get it tomorrow due to 'free' next delivery as I have prime :)



as I mentioned before I already have the c.e. version on the ps3 plus da:a(£32 psn), rto and wk, don't have the 4 dlc which came after rto so was trying to decide if I should get them or the ue. ended up getting the ue tho I might get the 4 remaing dlc for the ps3 at a later date.



have ordered da2 se on the pc, from what I've read it uses your save from da:o to some extent.

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Gokuthegrate wrote...

Does anyone know which patch comes with UE.

firemark wrote...

1.01

This may be correct FOR CONSOLES (and maybe just for the PS3.)

For MOST of us (PC players), the answer is "1.04".  And there's nothing optional about it.  The UE file packaging and install routine is "all or nothing".  It gives you DA:O, DA:A, and all the DLC, and patches you to 1.04 duing the initial install.

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 10 novembre 2010 - 10:46 .


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Then just play the game on Disc 1 (you can install this too to the Hard Drive so the Xbox 360 is quiter, but this is optional). You need Disc 1 in to play the game (regardless if you installed Disc 1 or not, which I already said is optional), but no disc swapping is necessary. Let a friend borrow Disc 2 or whatever, that content is on the Hard Drive after you install it.


So you don't have to autentificate the content to an account like normal DLC then?

I'm worried that the DLC gets "binded" to a single live account (making disc 2 useless for other people).

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Thandal NLyman wrote...

night0205 wrote...

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If you install the UE now and authorize everything online... then uninstall it. Then install it again down the road, do you or do you not have to authorize it again online?

Dollars to doughnuts (or Euros to eclairs) you'd have to re-authorize.


And that is what bugs me.

While I share the "long-term" concern, it bugs me less than "secuROM" for example.


Yes I would rather have slavery then genocide as well, but I still don't like slavery.

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Joshep wrote...

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Then just play the game on Disc 1 (you can install this too to the Hard Drive so the Xbox 360 is quiter, but this is optional). You need Disc 1 in to play the game (regardless if you installed Disc 1 or not, which I already said is optional), but no disc swapping is necessary. Let a friend borrow Disc 2 or whatever, that content is on the Hard Drive after you install it.


So you don't have to autentificate the content to an account like normal DLC then?

I'm worried that the DLC gets "binded" to a single live account (making disc 2 useless for other people).

The materials *are* bound to a single BioWare/EA account.  Disc 2 WILL be useless for "other people". ( At least it will be for "other people" while the content is still useful for the first person.)  An internet connection and the authorization codes are needed to makle use of the content.  Once "authorized", you don't need the internet connection, and if installed on the HDD (of consoles) don't need the discs.

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night0205 wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

night0205 wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

night0205 wrote...

If you install the UE now and authorize everything online... then uninstall it. Then install it again down the road, do you or do you not have to authorize it again online?

Dollars to doughnuts (or Euros to eclairs) you'd have to re-authorize.


And that is what bugs me.

While I share the "long-term" concern, it bugs me less than "secuROM" for example.


Yes I would rather have slavery then genocide as well, but I still don't like slavery.

Right, but as a sometime software developer and copyright holder, I also  don't like priracy! Posted Image 

So  finding an appropriate balance between protecting the value of the author/developer/publisher's work, and the convenience and percieved "ownership" rights of the purchaser is difficult. 

If one could be 100% sure ("practically speaking") that no purchaser would allow unauthorized use of the material, then no form of copy/use protection would ever be needed.  Since that is demonstrably NOT "speaking practically", some compromise is necessary.  Pick your poison!

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 11 novembre 2010 - 01:14 .


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SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST

I don't know what the hell happened


Thandal NLyman wrote...
The materials *are* bound to a single BioWare/EA account.  Disc 2 WILL be useless for "other people". ( At least it will be for "other people" while the content is still useful for the first person.)  An internet connection and the authorization codes are needed to makle use of the content.  Once "authorized", you don't need the internet connection, and if installed on the HDD (of consoles) don't need the discs.


Well that's BS aren't it?

You are basically paying to "rent" something, if i want to lend the game to a friend o resell it the second disc will be useless, Bioware is basically selling smoke.


Oh well, is the DLC wort it at least? ME 2 dlc is very high quality i don't know about DA.

Modifié par Joshep, 11 novembre 2010 - 02:44 .


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Thandal NLyman wrote...
The materials *are* bound to a single BioWare/EA account.  Disc 2 WILL be useless for "other people". ( At least it will be for "other people" while the content is still useful for the first person.)  An internet connection and the authorization codes are needed to makle use of the content.  Once "authorized", you don't need the internet connection, and if installed on the HDD (of consoles) don't need the discs.


Well that's BS aren't it?

You are basically paying to "rent" something, if i want to lend the game to a friend o resell it the second disc will be useless, Bioware is basically selling smoke.


Oh well, is the DLC wort it at least? ME 2 dlc is very high quality i don't know about DA.

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,,, You are basically paying to "rent" something, if i want to lend the game to a friend o resell it the second disc will be useless, Bioware is basically selling smoke.

Oh well, is the DLC wort it at least? ME 2 dlc is very high quality i don't know about DA.

You are welcome to give your system to someone else so they can enjoy your copy of the game.  You are not free to pass aound your copy for others to use while YOU still have the use of it as well.  How many physical things can you give/sell to someone else, but still keep for your own use?  Why do you believe this should be different?

Oh, as to whether or not the DLC are "worth it" depends on so many variables that the question is unanswerable. 

On an "expenditure-per-hour of game-play" basis compared to the original DA:O, probably not.  When compared to "what else I could have fun doing for an evening-or-two for less than the cost of going to the cinema..." proabably so!

I thought LS and WH were the best of the lot.  Thoroughly enjoyed both, but like many, thought they were too short!  Next best was DA:A, which had length, plus rune crafting and armour rune slots as welcome additions.  GoA wasn't much fun for me, but I almost always play a Rogue, which was a distinct disadvantage for that one. 

And I refuse to acknowledge "The DLC Which Must Not Be Named". Posted Image

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Thandal NLyman wrote...

Joshep wrote...
,,, You are basically paying to "rent" something, if i want to lend the game to a friend o resell it the second disc will be useless, Bioware is basically selling smoke.

Oh well, is the DLC wort it at least? ME 2 dlc is very high quality i don't know about DA.

You are welcome to give your system to someone else so they can enjoy your copy of the game.  You are not free to pass aound your copy for others to use while YOU still have the use of it as well.  How many physical things can you give/sell to someone else, but still keep for your own use?  Why do you believe this should be different?


Of course, if i lend a copy of my game to someone else i can't play THAT game, but i can play with my xbox.

So if a friend wants to borror DA ultimate, he has to take my whole xbox with him? haha, no.


I don't know what's the point of having a physical copy of something, if that physical thing it's totally useless.

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Joshep wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

Joshep wrote...
,,, You are basically paying to "rent" something, if i want to lend the game to a friend o resell it the second disc will be useless, Bioware is basically selling smoke.

Oh well, is the DLC wort it at least? ME 2 dlc is very high quality i don't know about DA.

You are welcome to give your system to someone else so they can enjoy your copy of the game.  You are not free to pass aound your copy for others to use while YOU still have the use of it as well.  How many physical things can you give/sell to someone else, but still keep for your own use?  Why do you believe this should be different?


Of course, if i lend a copy of my game to someone else i can't play THAT game, but i can play with my xbox.

So if a friend wants to borror DA ultimate, he has to take my whole xbox with him? haha, no.


I don't know what's the point of having a physical copy of something, if that physical thing it's totally useless.

The point isn't at all about having a physical copy of something.  That just happens to be the current, commonly used distribution medium.  The point is to enjoy the PROGRAMMING stored on that medium.  And that's exactly what's being protected. 

If you want to to "unauthorize" your copy of the content so that a friend can authorize it under their credentials, you can do that...

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 11 novembre 2010 - 04:16 .


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I just purchased Dragon Age UE for PS3 in Australia. Anyway, Return to Ostagar isn't working. How do I start mission? It says I've downloaded it.

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thedrakeslayer wrote...

I just purchased Dragon Age UE for PS3 in Australia. Anyway, Return to Ostagar isn't working. How do I start mission? It says I've downloaded it.

Is it possible this is a physical disc from the same publisher as provided them for the UK? 

If so, there was a known error in their pressing of the discs.  EA Tech Support is "supposed" to know where to direct affected PS3 users so they can d/l a working copy of RtO  for their system.

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It says BLES on disc with a whole lot of numbers on it, so I think it is same as UK. This is annoying, I'll probably waste heaps of money if I call EA support to get download. They are probably overseas.

Can't they ship us a disc with RTO on it? It's their fault.

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Thandal NLyman wrote...

Joshep wrote...

HBC Dresden wrote...



Then just play the game on Disc 1 (you can install this too to the Hard Drive so the Xbox 360 is quiter, but this is optional). You need Disc 1 in to play the game (regardless if you installed Disc 1 or not, which I already said is optional), but no disc swapping is necessary. Let a friend borrow Disc 2 or whatever, that content is on the Hard Drive after you install it.


So you don't have to autentificate the content to an account like normal DLC then?

I'm worried that the DLC gets "binded" to a single live account (making disc 2 useless for other people).

The materials *are* bound to a single BioWare/EA account.  Disc 2 WILL be useless for "other people". ( At least it will be for "other people" while the content is still useful for the first person.)  An internet connection and the authorization codes are needed to makle use of the content.  Once "authorized", you don't need the internet connection, and if installed on the HDD (of consoles) don't need the discs.


I think you have that wrong actually. The way I understand it the console version works ENTIRELY differently from PC. I will confirm once I get the UE on PS3 myself, but I am pretty sure that there is no authorization code for the console versions at all, that's only needed on the PC version. In fact I don't think you need to be connected to the internet at all when you play it, maybe just to install the patch. 

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thedrakeslayer wrote...

It says BLES on disc with a whole lot of numbers on it, so I think it is same as UK. This is annoying, I'll probably waste heaps of money if I call EA support to get download. They are probably overseas.

Can't they ship us a disc with RTO on it? It's their fault.


The Australian version is most likely the same version as the PAL UK version as we're both English PAL regions.

In terms of contacting EA, contact them through Web Chat through their website - that way contacting them won't cost you a penny!

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This was my experience as well (albeit with a different game) of Direct2Drive. They're awful and have nonexistent support - go with Steam next time. I did and never looked back.

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Can someone confirm that this is indeed Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition for PC?

http://www.cdwow.us/...-pc/dp/18049579

I ask because the coverart is totally different.  I want to bite as that price is oh so very right for me.

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Shadelon wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

Joshep wrote...

HBC Dresden wrote...



Then just play the game on Disc 1 (you can install this too to the Hard Drive so the Xbox 360 is quiter, but this is optional). You need Disc 1 in to play the game (regardless if you installed Disc 1 or not, which I already said is optional), but no disc swapping is necessary. Let a friend borrow Disc 2 or whatever, that content is on the Hard Drive after you install it.


So you don't have to autentificate the content to an account like normal DLC then?

I'm worried that the DLC gets "binded" to a single live account (making disc 2 useless for other people).

The materials *are* bound to a single BioWare/EA account.  Disc 2 WILL be useless for "other people". ( At least it will be for "other people" while the content is still useful for the first person.)  An internet connection and the authorization codes are needed to makle use of the content.  Once "authorized", you don't need the internet connection, and if installed on the HDD (of consoles) don't need the discs.


I think you have that wrong actually. The way I understand it the console version works ENTIRELY differently from PC. I will confirm once I get the UE on PS3 myself, but I am pretty sure that there is no authorization code for the console versions at all, that's only needed on the PC version. In fact I don't think you need to be connected to the internet at all when you play it, maybe just to install the patch. 

Ahhhhh... Correct for consoles.  (Didn't read that far back in the thread, missed that piece of info.)  Except for the UK PS3 version which requires a download of RtO. (The local publisher fouled-up and forgot to put it on the disc!)

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there are no authorization code for xbox 360, so even you don't have internet you can still play all the dlc but the only problem is the witch hunt, it is still in version 1.00 so you need internet to patch it.

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so can you share the DLC disk #2 with others?



What if they don't own UE version of the main game. can they still use the DLC?