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TheMufflon wrote...
ShrinkingFish wrote...
No. Absolutely not. Only kids who are cool enough to assume that the cool kids club is not cool enough for them can be in the club.
Your admittance that the cool kids club is cool makes you uncool. Be gone!
Yeah, well I was only asking ironically. I am already a member of a much better club that, but you've probably never heard of it.
Upsettingshorts wrote...
ShrinkingFish wrote...
As a matter of fact , it is your fault for getting involved in a discussion when you were not aware of the subject matter.
Also,
as long as we're pointing fingers and spouting personal opinion as
truth instead of trying to host an intelligent discussion, you're a
poopyhead!
But see, fingerpointing and spouting personal opinions about stuff as trivial as videogames on the internet - with strangers nonetheless- is a great way to practice arguing.
Otherwise you'd have to argue for the sake of it with people you know about stuff that matters, either as practice - which would likely annoy everyone you know - or without practice, in which case you'll get destroyed and never win a single argument.
Hence in real life I pick my battles. And on the internet I charge in guns blazing. It's like sparring!
If you add up the people who are above average and the people who areTonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
If you add up the people who are below average and the people who are average, they outnumber the people who are above average. Thus the majority, the popular opinion, is inferior to the minority.
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
The concept of pretentious is merely invented by the inferior to justify their inferiority. Feeling superior isn't a bad thing if you are, in fact, superior. Believe it or not, we are not all born equal, we are not all equal. Some of us, humans, are superior to other humans.
Society has tricked itself into accepting the concept that we are all the same, because the masses can't handle the fact that they aren't special snowflakes. They need to be reassured by the media, by religion, and by the government that they have the same chances at success than their brethren.
It's not fair, it's not fair that some of us are born with lower IQ's, that some of us are born with genetic defects, that some of us our born into parents who do drugs or are poor, that some of us are born with genes that favor X over Y. However that's just a fact of life, and denying it doesn't change it. Believing something is true does not make it true, it just makes you a fool.
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
The concept of pretentious is merely invented by the inferior to justify their inferiority.
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TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
If you add up the people who are below average and the people who are average, they outnumber the people who are above average.
People want to be told their unique. They want to be told that they can do anything, that if they apply themselves enough they can be president, that they can be an astronaut or a movie star. The fact is certain people can't do those things. The majority can't do those things. It is a select few who can, a select few who are born with the right genes, the right parents, and the right setting to mature in who can do those things.TheMufflon wrote...
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Society has tricked itself into accepting the concept that we are all the same, because the masses can't handle the fact that they aren't special snowflakes.
That doesn't even make sense!
Ortaya Alevli wrote...
If you add up the people who are above average and the people who areTonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
If you add up the people who are below average and the people who are average, they outnumber the people who are above average. Thus the majority, the popular opinion, is inferior to the minority.
average, they outnumber the people who are below average. Thus the
majority, the popular opinion, is superior to the minority.
Anarya wrote...
Are you an Objectivist?
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Anarya wrote...
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
The concept of pretentious is merely invented by the inferior to justify their inferiority. Feeling superior isn't a bad thing if you are, in fact, superior. Believe it or not, we are not all born equal, we are not all equal. Some of us, humans, are superior to other humans.
Society has tricked itself into accepting the concept that we are all the same, because the masses can't handle the fact that they aren't special snowflakes. They need to be reassured by the media, by religion, and by the government that they have the same chances at success than their brethren.
It's not fair, it's not fair that some of us are born with lower IQ's, that some of us are born with genetic defects, that some of us our born into parents who do drugs or are poor, that some of us are born with genes that favor X over Y. However that's just a fact of life, and denying it doesn't change it. Believing something is true does not make it true, it just makes you a fool.
Um, pretension is by definition a false sense of superiority. If you are in fact superior and you know it, you are not pretentious.
Are you an Objectivist?
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Anarya wrote...
Are you an Objectivist?
He sounds much closer to Social Darwinism. He's not claiming so much that altruism and populism make society weak, but that society itself is separated between the "average" and the superior.
It's "they're unique", btw.TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
People want to be told their unique. They want to be told that they can do anything, that if they apply themselves enough they can be president, that they can be an astronaut or a movie star. The fact is certain people can't do those things. The majority can't do those things. It is a select few who can, a select few who are born with the right genes, the right parents, and the right setting to mature in who can do those things.
When confronted with the fact that they are, essentially, screwed, people break down.
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TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
ShrinkingFish wrote...
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Actually his sentence was so all over the place that it almost defies correction. He's talking about Sylvius being contrarian, and then uses the fact that his opinions are in the minority as evidence that it is superior because popular opinions are by their nature less than worthy. Which he then justifies by saying that majority opinions are of average quality by their nature, which - as it has been pointed out - is not only not how averages work but also not indicative of quality in any way.
Your first post lead me to believe you were intelligent, after reading this I'm not so sure. You took my original post and twisted it. I merely stated a fact, I never applied it to the OP, who I don't even know, nor to his arguments, because I haven't read the thread.
Pretentiousness. It's a bad thing. And a mark of inferiority or of the fear of being inferior.
A false claim to greater knowledge than is actually possessed in an attempt to make one seem impressive.
You supplied the rope and even tied the noose. Can't blame me for being the hangman. I just can't help myself. It's my nature.
The concept of pretentious is merely invented by the inferior to justify their inferiority. Feeling superior isn't a bad thing if you are, in fact, superior. Believe it or not, we are not all born equal, we are not all equal. Some of us, humans, are superior to other humans.
Society has tricked itself into accepting the concept that we are all the same, because the masses can't handle the fact that they aren't special snowflakes. They need to be reassured by the media, by religion, and by the government that they have the same chances at success than their brethren.
It's not fair, it's not fair that some of us are born with lower IQ's, that some of us are born with genetic defects, that some of us our born into parents who do drugs or are poor, that some of us are born with genes that favor X over Y. However that's just a fact of life, and denying it doesn't change it. Believing something is true does not make it true, it just makes you a fool.
svendigo wrote...
Anyone who pass high school statistics would cry when they see all these arguments that redefine the concept of 'average'.
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Definition doesn't make it true, it just makes it accepted.
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TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Anarya wrote...
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
The concept of pretentious is merely invented by the inferior to justify their inferiority. Feeling superior isn't a bad thing if you are, in fact, superior. Believe it or not, we are not all born equal, we are not all equal. Some of us, humans, are superior to other humans.
Society has tricked itself into accepting the concept that we are all the same, because the masses can't handle the fact that they aren't special snowflakes. They need to be reassured by the media, by religion, and by the government that they have the same chances at success than their brethren.
It's not fair, it's not fair that some of us are born with lower IQ's, that some of us are born with genetic defects, that some of us our born into parents who do drugs or are poor, that some of us are born with genes that favor X over Y. However that's just a fact of life, and denying it doesn't change it. Believing something is true does not make it true, it just makes you a fool.
Um, pretension is by definition a false sense of superiority. If you are in fact superior and you know it, you are not pretentious.
Are you an Objectivist?
Definition doesn't make it true, it just makes it accepted.
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Anarya wrote...
Are you an Objectivist?
He sounds much closer to Social Darwinism. He's not claiming so much that altruism and populism make society weak, but that society itself is separated between the "average" and the superior.
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Disliking what the majority like is pretentious, but pretentious isn't bad.
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Exactly!
Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 02 octobre 2010 - 02:13 .
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
He sounds much closer to Social Darwinism. He's not claiming so much that altruism and populism make society weak, but that society itself is separated between the "average" and the superior.
Exactly!
Upsettingshorts wrote...
svendigo wrote...
Anyone who pass high school statistics would cry when they see all these arguments that redefine the concept of 'average'.
Anyone who has any knowledge of 19th century English naval terminology would cry any time they see the term "second rate" being applied to something that was bad, incapable, or below par.
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
If you add up the people who are
below average and the people who are average, they outnumber the people
who are above average. Thus the majority, the popular opinion, is
inferior to the minority.
TheMufflon wrote...
Wait, did you just admit to admit to having an ideology that resulted from misunderstanding and misapplying the theory of evolution and which only enjoyed a brief stint of populatity among 19th century slave owners? Seriously?
svendigo wrote...
I guess you might have missed this little gem...[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]
Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 02 octobre 2010 - 02:18 .
TheMufflon wrote...
TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
He sounds much closer to Social Darwinism. He's not claiming so much that altruism and populism make society weak, but that society itself is separated between the "average" and the superior.
Exactly!
Wait, did you just admit to admit to having an ideology that resulted from misunderstanding and misapplying the theory of evolution and which only enjoyed a brief stint of populatity among 19th century slave owners? Seriously?
Upsettingshorts wrote...
So words mean whatever you want them to mean? I usually never have to say this, because so rarely does it apply, but our views are therefore incompatible. In my world, words have specific meanings. They do so that we can choose from them precisely which ones express the ideas we want to convey. If you can choose that pretension means what it doesn't, we have nothing more to discuss.
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