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So........is the weapon Hawke is holding in this pic the bladed end of the Staff of Parthalan?  Posted Image

Since the Staff of Parthalan is the staff-sword from the trailer, and this scene looks like the same setting as the trailer...........could this very well be the Staff of Parthalan?

oh.........and I am wondering when exactly we will be able to wield the staff.

It's supposed to be a family weapon.........so perhaps mage Hawke will start out with it?

That would be cool, as it would make it feel more special and personal.  But, if that's the case, I would like the weapon to be able to level up with Hawke.

I hope it won't be like the Cousland family sword in Origins, which was a fairly low level item that you had to ditch in favor of higher tier weapons later on.

If this staff is indeed my family's heirloom, and it has a legendary past, I want my Hawke to wield it from the moment she gets her hands on it till the end. 


I don't think the Hawke in this image is a mage at all, he's wearing armor, and I guess the only thing this particular staff will have an advantage on over other staves will be in melee, because it's sort of a staff/sword hybrid, beyond that I like what you say about wielding it, not from the beginning because if it's as strong as you say it'd be way overpowered at first, but I definitely would like it to be an end game item.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 02 octobre 2010 - 07:44 .


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I also have the code....I wonder if this is the prize Jacob was talking about.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

But you have to have had subscribe, or be on the forums, or go to SDCC to get the content. That is exclusive. 


Could be possible that another similar looking weapon is in the game itself.

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Peter Thomas said that staves damage types are Fire, Cold, Lightning, Spirit, and Physical (I think I remembered them all). So maybe it does physical damage?

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

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I must say, I am very confuzzled as to why a Trailer Weapon is an Exclusive.


It's not really an exclusive when you can get it for free by just subscribing to a newsletter.... many people may not get it because they don't follow the forums but that's not the point.


But you have to have had subscribe, or be on the forums, or go to SDCC to get the content. That is exclusive. 


Um, I can't deny that, but I don't think we really should complain about something we're getting for free, you may not admit it but WE ARE getting it for free, they might have waited till the game was released and made it an epic DLC weapon and believe me we'd buy it.....

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andar91 wrote...

Peter Thomas said that staves damage types are Fire, Cold, Lightning, Spirit, and Physical (I think I remembered them all). So maybe it does physical damage?


They all do physical up close, mages have some sort of melee attacks now, the others are types of ranged damage, this one though will be better than other staves up close because of the longsword on the other end.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 02 octobre 2010 - 07:49 .


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ViSeirA wrote...

lunarknightmage wrote...
So........is the weapon Hawke is holding in this pic the bladed end of the Staff of Parthalan?  Posted Image

Since the Staff of Parthalan is the staff-sword from the trailer, and this scene looks like the same setting as the trailer...........could this very well be the Staff of Parthalan?

oh.........and I am wondering when exactly we will be able to wield the staff.

It's supposed to be a family weapon.........so perhaps mage Hawke will start out with it?

That would be cool, as it would make it feel more special and personal.  But, if that's the case, I would like the weapon to be able to level up with Hawke.

I hope it won't be like the Cousland family sword in Origins, which was a fairly low level item that you had to ditch in favor of higher tier weapons later on.

If this staff is indeed my family's heirloom, and it has a legendary past, I want my Hawke to wield it from the moment she gets her hands on it till the end. 


I don't think the Hawke in this image is a mage at all, he's wearing armor, and I guess the only thing this particular staff will have an advantage on over other staves will be in melee, because it's sort of a staff/sword hybrid, beyond that I like what you say about wielding it, not from the beginning because if it's as strong as you say it'd be way overpowered at first, but I definitely would like it to be an end game item.


well, the devs did say that mages can wear armor, and that the trailer Hawke was a mage.  And the scene in that pic looks straight from the trailer.

Also, warriors can only use Sword and Shield and 2H weapons.  So, I don't think the Hawke in that pic is a warrior, because he's not carrying a Shield nor a 2H weapon.  And the way Hawke is holding the weapon looks more like a "reverse-grip" similar to how trailer Hawke held his staff-sword at one point in the trailer..........

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lunarknightmage wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

lunarknightmage wrote...
So........is the weapon Hawke is holding in this pic the bladed end of the Staff of Parthalan?  Posted Image

Since the Staff of Parthalan is the staff-sword from the trailer, and this scene looks like the same setting as the trailer...........could this very well be the Staff of Parthalan?

oh.........and I am wondering when exactly we will be able to wield the staff.

It's supposed to be a family weapon.........so perhaps mage Hawke will start out with it?

That would be cool, as it would make it feel more special and personal.  But, if that's the case, I would like the weapon to be able to level up with Hawke.

I hope it won't be like the Cousland family sword in Origins, which was a fairly low level item that you had to ditch in favor of higher tier weapons later on.

If this staff is indeed my family's heirloom, and it has a legendary past, I want my Hawke to wield it from the moment she gets her hands on it till the end. 


I don't think the Hawke in this image is a mage at all, he's wearing armor, and I guess the only thing this particular staff will have an advantage on over other staves will be in melee, because it's sort of a staff/sword hybrid, beyond that I like what you say about wielding it, not from the beginning because if it's as strong as you say it'd be way overpowered at first, but I definitely would like it to be an end game item.


well, the devs did say that mages can wear armor, and that the trailer Hawke was a mage.  And the scene in that pic looks straight from the trailer.

Also, warriors can only use Sword and Shield and 2H weapons.  So, I don't think the Hawke in that pic is a warrior, because he's not carrying a Shield nor a 2H weapon.  And the way Hawke is holding the weapon looks more like a "reverse-grip" similar to how trailer Hawke held his staff-sword at one point in the trailer..........


Whoa, mages can wear armor? and staves can do melee, who's gonna go Warrior and Rogue then? I hate to do this but do you have a link? if it was in the Peter Thomas gameplay thread just tell me and I'll look it up myself, if this is true then this is indeed some troubling news.

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ViSeirA wrote...

andar91 wrote...

Peter Thomas said that staves damage types are Fire, Cold, Lightning, Spirit, and Physical (I think I remembered them all). So maybe it does physical damage?


They all do physical up close, mages have some sort of melee attacks now, the others are types of ranged damage, this one though will be better than other staves up close because of the longsword on the other end.

Posted ImagePosted ImageI don't think so.  The damage is based on the staff and is the same whether it's ranged or melee.  It's only the animation that's different.  

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Whoa, mages can wear armor? and staves can do melee, who's gonna go Warrior and Rogue then? I hate to do this but do you have a link? if it was in the Peter Thomas gameplay thread just tell me and I'll look it up myself, if this is true then this is indeed some troubling news.

That's the same outfit mage!Hawke was wearing on the trailer, so I don't understand why you are acting so surprised.

Although, to be fair, it is the same armor the warrior class got in the demo version while the mage got a robe akin to Beth's, but still, since Peter said that armors would mostly be attribute dependent, and only a few would be class-dependent, I guess it all pointing to it being more than possible for mage!Hawke (and rogue!Hawke by extension) to wear it.

And, to keep it on-topic... as soon as BioWare told us of their special item by registering to the newsletter that I went to DA2's site and signed up, only to find out now that I had only subscribed to the BioWare newsletter... I hope I can still get the item, since I did everything right ='(

And I want my mage!Hawke to look as close to destiny!Hawke as possible, so... it's a must-have for me xP

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I want to talk about thar screenshot. Do you think it's from the game? Look at the shadows, I think it's an improvement.

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Mages can wear armour provided they meet the stat requirement (same as origins). It's in the Peter thread.

Modifié par axa89, 02 octobre 2010 - 08:07 .


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The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

I want to talk about thar screenshot. Do you think it's from the game? Look at the shadows, I think it's an improvement.

I think this is a bit off-topic but yes graphics are better in DA2.A lot.Period
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Posted ImagePosted ImageI don't think so.  The damage is based on the staff and is the same whether it's ranged or melee.  It's only the animation that's different.  


I know the animations are different, I'm talking about the actual damage, if it's indeed as you say then the staff itself should hurt whoever wields it, you can't stab someone with a staff so it's safe to say you'll just sort of hit them with it, that's physical damage for you, any other kind of ranged damage depends on the staff itself, in the leaked gameplay we saw Bethany firing a spirit bolt, I guess that's the basic staff attack, if the staff is specialized in fire it'd be a fire bolt and so on, there'll be nothing like a physical bolt, I think by physical damage he meant the melee.

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Curiou... I didn`t receive any code. :(

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That's the same outfit mage!Hawke was wearing on the trailer, so I don't understand why you are acting so surprised.

Although, to be fair, it is the same armor the warrior class got in the demo version while the mage got a robe akin to Beth's, but still, since Peter said that armors would mostly be attribute dependent, and only a few would be class-dependent, I guess it all pointing to it being more than possible for mage!Hawke (and rogue!Hawke by extension) to wear it.


That's what I know, I understood him wrong, I thought he meant armor won't be stat dependant, like mages can wear any armor they like.

Anyway, I hope Arcane Warrior is still a specialization though, I really liked it in Origins.....

Modifié par ViSeirA, 02 octobre 2010 - 08:12 .


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I was so freaking happy when I got that email for the staff! I think it's nice to give people who follow the forums and newsletters extra stuff for free. It's like a thank you for signing up for the news letter I thought.



I was gonna say, Arcane Warrior lets you use your magic skill to wear armor, so that's not so weird. I had Wynne in Legion armor just for the lol factor.

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ViSeirA wrote...

andar91 wrote...
Posted ImagePosted ImageI don't think so.  The damage is based on the staff and is the same whether it's ranged or melee.  It's only the animation that's different.  


I know the animations are different, I'm talking about the actual damage, if it's indeed as you say then the staff itself should hurt whoever wields it, you can't stab someone with a staff so it's safe to say you'll just sort of hit them with it, that's physical damage for you, any other kind of ranged damage depends on the staff itself, in the leaked gameplay we saw Bethany firing a spirit bolt, I guess that's the basic staff attack, if the staff is specialized in fire it'd be a fire bolt and so on, there'll be nothing like a physical bolt, I think by physical damage he meant the melee.


Spirit Bolt seem to be a spell, akin to Arcane Bolt in Origins.

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ViSeirA wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...
That's the same outfit mage!Hawke was wearing on the trailer, so I don't understand why you are acting so surprised.

Although, to be fair, it is the same armor the warrior class got in the demo version while the mage got a robe akin to Beth's, but still, since Peter said that armors would mostly be attribute dependent, and only a few would be class-dependent, I guess it all pointing to it being more than possible for mage!Hawke (and rogue!Hawke by extension) to wear it.


That's what I know, I understood him wrong, I thought he meant armor won't be stat dependant, like mages can wear any armor they like.

Anyway, I hope Arcane Warrior is still a specialization though, I really liked it in Origins.....


me too...........I hope AW is still in...........

and yes, it was Peter in his Q+A thread that mentioned that mages can wear armor provided they have the right stats.

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ViSeirA wrote...

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Posted ImagePosted ImageI don't think so.  The damage is based on the staff and is the same whether it's ranged or melee.  It's only the animation that's different.  


I know the animations are different, I'm talking about the actual damage, if it's indeed as you say then the staff itself should hurt whoever wields it, you can't stab someone with a staff so it's safe to say you'll just sort of hit them with it, that's physical damage for you, any other kind of ranged damage depends on the staff itself, in the leaked gameplay we saw Bethany firing a spirit bolt, I guess that's the basic staff attack, if the staff is specialized in fire it'd be a fire bolt and so on, there'll be nothing like a physical bolt, I think by physical damage he meant the melee.


Spirit Bolt seem to be a spell, akin to Arcane Bolt in Origins.


Yeah I just rewatched the video, it's a spell but I still think it's staff dependant, considering the low cooldown, maybe I'm wrong but I think by physical he meant the melee, we'll just have to wait and see.

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Strange, I can't find the subscription link / box on da2 website...

It is not showing on FireFox and neither in IE.

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ViSeirA wrote...

andar91 wrote...
Posted ImagePosted ImageI don't think so.  The damage is based on the staff and is the same whether it's ranged or melee.  It's only the animation that's different.  


I know the animations are different, I'm talking about the actual damage, if it's indeed as you say then the staff itself should hurt whoever wields it, you can't stab someone with a staff so it's safe to say you'll just sort of hit them with it, that's physical damage for you, any other kind of ranged damage depends on the staff itself, in the leaked gameplay we saw Bethany firing a spirit bolt, I guess that's the basic staff attack, if the staff is specialized in fire it'd be a fire bolt and so on, there'll be nothing like a physical bolt, I think by physical damage he meant the melee.

Posted ImagePosted ImageI'm almost positive Spirit Bolt is the equivalent of Arcane Bolt because you can see the icon when the player selects her for a moment on her pre-set ability slots.  She's using fire projectiles (I.E. a fire staff) when she's using the default attack.

Peter Thomas said this: 

Both their ranged and melee attacks will count as magical. The
ranged version shoots projectiles, the melee version does a different
animation and doesn't shoot a projectile. The Hawke in the trailer was
using a staff, though it was likely a physical damage staff.



Here's the thread page with that response, and another answer about damage types and how all weapons have one.  http://social.biowar...4715441/15&lf=8

Posted ImagePosted ImageAlso, everything's staff dependent to a degree.  He also mentions that mages always have a staff and all animations incorporate the staff in some way.  Not sure what you meant by the low cooldown on Spirit Bolt, but Arcane Bolt recharged quickly too.

Modifié par andar91, 02 octobre 2010 - 08:20 .


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When you sign on newsletter, did you get confirmation email or something?

PS: I hope there will be some sort of 'melee Sword-Staff' for my Warrior Hawke ^^

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dielveio wrote...

Strange, I can't find the subscription link / box on da2 website...
It is not showing on FireFox and neither in IE.


Clear your cookies and look again?

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andar91 wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

andar91 wrote...
Posted ImagePosted ImageI don't think so.  The damage is based on the staff and is the same whether it's ranged or melee.  It's only the animation that's different.  


I know the animations are different, I'm talking about the actual damage, if it's indeed as you say then the staff itself should hurt whoever wields it, you can't stab someone with a staff so it's safe to say you'll just sort of hit them with it, that's physical damage for you, any other kind of ranged damage depends on the staff itself, in the leaked gameplay we saw Bethany firing a spirit bolt, I guess that's the basic staff attack, if the staff is specialized in fire it'd be a fire bolt and so on, there'll be nothing like a physical bolt, I think by physical damage he meant the melee.

Posted ImagePosted ImageI'm almost positive Spirit Bolt is the equivalent of Arcane Bolt because you can see the icon when the player selects her for a moment on her pre-set ability slots.  She's using fire projectiles (I.E. a fire staff) when she's using the default attack.

Peter Thomas said this: 

Both their ranged and melee attacks will count as magical. The
ranged version shoots projectiles, the melee version does a different
animation and doesn't shoot a projectile. The Hawke in the trailer was
using a staff, though it was likely a physical damage staff.



Here's the thread page with that response, and another answer about damage types and how all weapons have one.  http://social.biowar...4715441/15&lf=8

Posted ImagePosted ImageAlso, everything's staff dependent to a degree.  He also mentions that mages always have a staff and all animations incorporate the staff in some way.  Not sure what you meant by the low cooldown on Spirit Bolt, but Arcane Bolt recharged quickly too.


Oh, thanks for the link, I surely missed that.