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I change my mind --- the battle wear is rediculous.

Débuté par MrnDvlDg161 , oct. 02 2010 03:05

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#151
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Posté 04 octobre 2010 - 12:41

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Frybread76 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Biotics defy logic, thus Biotic users devy logic and don't have to wear any armor!

...Unless you're Shepard. Than you have to wear armor because you're Shepard even if you have Biotics. Or Kaiden... He had to wear armor as well. So did Liara... And Wrex...

Well, in ME2 Biotics+cloths devy the armor logic!


Unless you're an Eclipse merc, many of whom wore armor even if they were Vanguards.


Or Tela Vasir, who's a Biotic SPECTRE clad in armor... that's further aggravating the problem, because the outfits of the squad members don't fit with anything else. Mercenaries, soldier, former squad members, aliens, all wear armor.

Even Jenkins had the common sense to wear one. And he wasn't very bright. 

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Posté 04 octobre 2010 - 12:45

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Although I do wonder why one of the most universally hated armor designs is the only armor that has shown up in both games.  I mean, of all the designs they could have used, even having your former squadmates in the Colossus or Predator armors to show endgame stuff from ME1, and both in the Normandy destruction and the meeting with your friend on Horizon, your squadmates are stuck in the armor that people hated the design of with a passion.  It's like the devs were just like "You don't like the armor we designed?  TOO BAD!".


I think you should visit a doctor because you might be color blind. Ashley does not wear the same armor she wore (by default) in ME1. In ME1 her armor (Pheonix) was pink and white. In ME2 the armor she is wearing is red and white and it has a stripe on the shoulder. Oddly enough, this is the armor she was originally drawn wearing in a lot of the ME1 concept art and may have even had on in some of the early previews of the game. In fact some old promotional material for ME1 showed Shepard wearing this armor.

Just felt like pointing that out.

Another thing to note, if you closely watch the video of Eden Prime being attacked (at the start of ME1, naturally) you'll notice that the soldiers there don't seem to have a standard uniform. Perhaps garrison forces have a little bit more freedom in choosing what brand of armor they wear.

#153
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Posté 04 octobre 2010 - 04:48

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In most Sci-Fi films and TV shows the combat is usually sans armor, take Buck Rogers for example or even Star Wars. Of course this means one laser blast and your dead which is not very conducive to a video game. The only way to pull it off is to have a strong cover system, patient gamers and the AI of your squad to be sufficient to keep them alive. Playing on harder difficulty levels it's all about popping out of cover when it's safe to do so and trying miraculously to keep your team mates alive as they are prone to sucking up weapons fire.



I never really thought of the issue of armor and realism much in ME1 because all your squad is armored and you could easily take your helmet off for dialog scenes. I never tried but I wonder how you are suppose to give Liara a kiss with a full face helmet.

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Posté 04 octobre 2010 - 05:40

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adam_grif wrote...

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I really hope Bioware learns from this mistake.
Someone should make a poll.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/4950563
Done.

Lovely.
Seems very little were a fan of ME2's style armour.
What were you thinking Bioware?

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 05:13

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 05:26

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Eh. Space does not have a temperature, and you won't freeze from exposure to vacuum although it will be lethal after about 2 minutes and you will lose consciousness after about 10 seconds.

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 05:30

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adam_grif wrote...

Eh. Space does not have a temperature, and you won't freeze from exposure to vacuum although it will be lethal after about 2 minutes and you will lose consciousness after about 10 seconds.


You do know that an atmosphere is the reason why planets don't hit absolute zero? In deep space, the temperature is roughly -270 degrees Celsius, or -455 Fahrenheit.

Modifié par Elyvern, 05 octobre 2010 - 05:31 .

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 06:13

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Elyvern wrote...

You do know that an atmosphere is the reason why planets don't hit absolute zero? In deep space, the temperature is roughly -270 degrees Celsius, or -455 Fahrenheit.



Let me reassert: space does not have a temperature. Temperature is a property of matter. Things lower their temperature in three ways; conduction, convection, and radiation. Although free-floating particles in space do indeed have a temperature close to absolute zero, there are so few of them and they are so widely spaced apart that neither conduction nor convection can occur at any significant level. For this reason, objects in space only lower their temperature through emitting radiation.

This process is extermely slow, and for a random person in sitting in a vacuum, supposing that they were kept alive (for instance, are hooked up to an oxygen mask, had access to food and water intermittently) they could essentially survive without freezing indefinitely.

Skin feels cool when exposed to a vacuum because the absense of atmospheric pressure in space lowers the boiling temperature of water to far lower than room temeprature. This means that water on the surface of your body (eyes, skin) will "boil away" and carry a small amount of water away with it. This gives the sensation of cooling as the evaporating water carries a small amount of heat away with it. But as long as you keep your eyes closed, the only problem it will cause you is dry skin / lips.

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 06:59

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adam_grif wrote...
Skin feels cool when exposed to a vacuum because the absense of atmospheric pressure in space lowers the boiling temperature of water to far lower than room temeprature. This means that water on the surface of your body (eyes, skin) will "boil away" and carry a small amount of water away with it. This gives the sensation of cooling as the evaporating water carries a small amount of heat away with it. But as long as you keep your eyes closed, the only problem it will cause you is dry skin / lips.


What?  No.  Decompression will kill you really fast.

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 07:23

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Terraneaux wrote...

What?  No.  Decompression will kill you really fast.


The human body maintains internal pressure at all times. You will not explode in vacuum or anything so dramatic. The effects are summarized here.

As long as you're hooked up to a pressurized air supply, and take long, slow breaths, there doesn't seem to be any reason why you would die from exposure to vacuum, at least that I can see.

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 01:30

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adam_grif wrote...

Terraneaux wrote...

What?  No.  Decompression will kill you really fast.


The human body maintains internal pressure at all times. You will not explode in vacuum or anything so dramatic. The effects are summarized here.

As long as you're hooked up to a pressurized air supply, and take long, slow breaths, there doesn't seem to be any reason why you would die from exposure to vacuum, at least that I can see.



Actually, I don't recall too many instances of you being in a total vacuum in ME2. Most of the time there's either not enough oxygen, the environment is deadly (toxic atmosphere, freezing/boiling temperatures) or you're on the Migrant Fleet.

Regardless, that was really interesting to read; I always wondered about exposure to vacuums. Thanks for sharing. :D

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 04:09

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In ME3 I want squadmates to wear their casual catsuits while on Normandy/friendly hub worlds (Citadel, Illium etc.) and normal armour while on missions or on worlds with unfriendly enviroments (Tuchanka or Noveria for example)

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 08:36

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I'm not even homophobic and I easily think the ME1 armour looked really, really gay. Seriously. It stressed to show off the ass to ridiculous extents and Phoenix armour was a bad idea. Period.

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 08:43

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Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

I'm not even homophobic and I easily think the ME1 armour looked really, really gay. Seriously. It stressed to show off the ass to ridiculous extents and Phoenix armour was a bad idea. Period.


So...what do you think of Miranda's outfit?

Phoenix armor was no doubt ugly.  So were many of the armor color schemes.  But ME 2 outfits made Phoenix armor look good in comparison.

Modifié par iakus, 05 octobre 2010 - 08:43 .

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 09:51

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iakus wrote...

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

I'm not even homophobic and I easily think the ME1 armour looked really, really gay. Seriously. It stressed to show off the ass to ridiculous extents and Phoenix armour was a bad idea. Period.


So...what do you think of Miranda's outfit?

Phoenix armor was no doubt ugly.  So were many of the armor color schemes.  But ME 2 outfits made Phoenix armor look good in comparison.

I don't really bring Miranda to missions so i'm kinda fine. However in ME1 everyone had to wear colourful jump suits.

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Posté 05 octobre 2010 - 10:00

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adam_grif wrote...

Elyvern wrote...

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Eh. Space does not have a temperature, and you won't freeze from exposure to vacuum although it will be lethal after about 2 minutes and you will lose consciousness after about 10 seconds.

:lol::lol::lol::lol: deep space is 200 below zero (universal temperature for our side of the universe)

the entire galaxy probably has a unified temperature, 200-400 degrees below 0 is likely average (not being near any star in the galaxy)

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 05 octobre 2010 - 10:07 .

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